Bill To Require Vaccination of Children Advances In California
mpicpp sends the latest news on California legislation that would eliminate exemptions for vaccinating school children. A bill that would require nearly all children in California to be vaccinated by eliminating "personal belief" exemptions advanced through the State Legislature on Wednesday, though it still has several hurdles to clear. If approved, California would become one of only three states that require all parents to vaccinate their children as a condition of going to school, unless there is a medical reason not to do so. Under the bill, introduced after a measles outbreak that began at Disneyland, parents who refuse vaccines for philosophical or religious reasons would have to educate their children at home. The legislation prompted a roiling debate in Sacramento, and last week hundreds of people protested at the Capitol, arguing that it infringed on their rights and that it would unfairly shut their children out of schools. Last Wednesday, the legislation stalled in the Senate Education Committee as lawmakers said they were concerned that too many students would be forced into home schooling. This Wednesday, however, the bill passed that committee after its authors tweaked it, adding amendments that would expand the definition of home schooling to allow multiple families to join together to teach their children or participate in independent study programs run by public school systems.
This is what happens when one berserk political party controls your state.
Slippery slopes are logical fallacies, not because they don't sometimes work, they are logical fallacies because they sometimes fail. That being said ...
At what point can the state compel people to have medical procedures done? Pregnant at 15, forced abortion? Take kids away from parents the state doesn't like how they are being raised?
Additionally, THIS kind of ruling / law doesn't really bode well with Abortion. The line is "My body, my choice" is completely done away with.
And what happens when we actually prove that Autism disorder is caused by bad vaccines? We already know some vaccines have really bad adverse problems, and kill. And if Vaccines are completely safe, why do they hide the data regarding adverse reactions with structured settlements?
The fact is, FORCING vaccines doesn't protect ANYONE from ANYTHING. Those people at risk, are still at risk. Those people who have been vaccinated are still protected. In fact, the Measles outbreak at Disneyland had almost nothing to do with the no-vaccine advocates, but was due to a strain that the American Vaccine doesn't fully protected against, and many of the victims were simply too young to have been through the fully regime.
But Facts don't matter when you have government FUD on your side.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
Some of these people are quite literally proclaiming that vaccines have always work and never harmful
Always and never.
I don't understand why people who vaccinate are afraid of those that don't. It is almost like they don't trust vaccines to work or something.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
1) is not a reason to force vaccinations on everyone else. It doesn't stop the risk
2) There is no double blind tests that prove this. This is pure conjecture. The fact that people who have had Measles vaccine, still get measles proves that it is at least partially non-effective.
3) Measles vaccines do not prevent measles absolutely 100% of the time. In addition, there are vaccines that have been proven deadly (Guardacil) but are still being pushed by the Vaccine producers as being "safe"
4) THE ONLY effective prevention of Measles is to get measles. The fact that we can TREAT effectively measles and the negative consequences of measles is simple and doesn't involve poisons, namely doses of Vitamin A, is MY choice, not yours, not Government not anyone else. I actually care about my kids that I don't want them injected with poisons with harmful effects, negates the Pro Vaccine people's claim about parents not caring.
The problem is, I AM informed, and I KNOW the risks of both, it should be MY choice for MY kids, not some mandate by some functionally illiterate politician listening to Big Pharma adverts in Sacrament or DC.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
This bill will impinge on no one's freedom, since anyone who objects is free to move to a Red State where giving other people communicable diseases is perfectly OK and a perfectly legitimate thing to do.