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Debian 8 Jessie Released
linuxscreenshot writes: After almost 24 months of constant development, the Debian project is proud to present its new stable version 8 (code name Jessie), which will be supported for the next five years thanks to the combined work of the Debian Security team and the Debian Long Term Support team. (Release notes.) Jessie ships with a new default init system, systemd. The systemd suite provides features such as faster boot times, cgroups for services, and the possibility of isolating part of the services. The sysvinit init system is still available in Jessie. Screenshots and a screencast are available.
en GNOME apps are terribad
"terribad" isn't an english word, quit hanging out with geeks who have ESL, "chan" people, and other dudebro types.
I think this would have been a better way of stating it:
" If you want to run some other window manager, like blackbox or xfe, then GNOME apps have terrible usability issues."
See, saying it that way doesn't make you sound like you look like this guy:
http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-...
Seriously. There are a small number of people whose opinion is worth listening to even when it disagrees with the groups managing almost every single major distribution of Linux. Granted, some of them will be on slashdot. But definitely not anywhere near the number that pop in to these threads and whine. I use Linux to get things done. I have also used FreeBSD quite extensively, but there are a number of applications that don't quite support FreeBSD, and there is no equivalent of Red Hat. I plan to deploy Ceph soon for example for a storage cluster, and I want to be solving issues related to making Ceph work effectively, not spend time getting it up and running, compiling things myself. So I'll go with a *nix distribution that Ceph is most extensively tested against (RedHat or Ubuntu when I last checked).
If you want to build Debian without systemd and deal with all the niggly annoying issues that will come out of that and get progressively worse, go for it. Just don't pretend it's a viable option for anyone trying to get shit done, trying to keep systems running, trying to get systems up and going in short time. Sure, if you have an abiding interest in operating systems, love compiling kernels and creating custom builds of your favourite distribution, go for it. But the idea that any organization using Linux for critical systems would consider rolling their own distro to avoid systemd is ridiculous. Systemd won. Get over it. Discussions about how it is better or worse are mostly academic at this point. We are approaching almost a year since RHEL switched - if it was that catastrophically bad, we would know by now.