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Woman Behind Pakistan's First Hackathon, Sabeen Mahmud, Shot Dead

An anonymous reader sends word that Sabeen Mahmud, a prominent Pakistani social and human rights activist, has been shot dead. The progressive activist and organizer who ran Pakistan's first-ever hackathon and led a human rights and a peace-focused nonprofit known as The Second Floor (T2F) was shot dead by unidentified gunmen in Karachi. Sabeen Mahmud was leaving the T2F offices with her mother some time after 9pm on Friday evening, reports the Pakistani newspaper Dawn. She was on her way home when she was shot, the paper reports. Her mother also sustained bullet wounds and is currently being treated at a hospital; she is said to be in critical condition.

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  1. Re:truly an inspiration. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am no friend to Muslims. If all of them were slain, I would not weep a single tear. (Can you hear the 'however' coming up?)

    However, back then men were basically either a warlord, a vassal, or a slave. Also, back then it was commonplace to take humans that we now classify as 'children' in marriage. Or if slaves, use them however the master liked, including sexually. They were just slightly smaller meat puppets than all the rest of the meat puppets. The point is, Muhammad was of his time.

    It is just as silly and repugnant to use today's moral standards to judge people who lived in far different times, as it is for his followers to keep using those long out-dated moral standards from then in today's world.

  2. Re:Remember Hypatia by CronoCloud · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I sometimes think that Islam hasn't had it's version of "The Reformation" yet. In the west that somewhat reduced the power of religion compared to nation-states. But In "Islam-land" the Religion has more even MORE power than it does here.

    And they haven't learned that oppressing a gender makes them weak because they're not using all of their "human resources" at their disposal.

    Imagine if tomorrow women in the US were required to stay home and not have jobs....it would destroy the US economy very quickly.

  3. Re:Peaceful Religion by Megol · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Right so exactly where in the Koran is it justified to kill a woman that have done nothing wrong? [hint: it isn't]

    The ones that focus on Islam instead of the real reasons (extreme misogynistic traditions in many cultures) are either Islamofobists or just idiots. Islam isn't the power behind genital mutilations, rapes, killing and mutilation of women - the idea that women/girls aren't worth shit is.

    One can (and should) criticize Islam and other religions. This? Just a fucking show of ignorance.

  4. Re:truly an inspiration. by Grishnakh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I listen to brutal death metal but i also listen to Tchaikovsky.

    Metal has a fair amount in common, musically, with classical music. Metal typically emphasizes complex song structures and virtuosic playing more than other forms of modern music. I'd say country is probably at the opposite end of that spectrum. I like progressive metal like Dream Theater, I also like Bach and Telemann, but I also like Rolling Stones, Boston, AC/DC, etc.

    As for all your other interests, none of those carry any kind of political connotations or religious content. None of them indicate that you're a rabid homophobe who thinks the Rapture is coming any day now. Watching Duck Dynasty indicates exactly that. There's nothing wrong with having sexual fantasies or liking different levels of literature and music. There is something wrong (IMO) with watching TV shows or listening to music which pushes moronic religious viewpoints. It's very simple: if you listen to some type of "entertainment" which preaches to you to hate people who were born differently from you, and you buy into this, then you're a moron IMO.

  5. Re:There seem to be a lot of these killings by Cederic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    More men too, or don't they count? Oh, it's a domestic violence statistic. Of course they don't.

    Meanwhile it's a rare day that more Muslims are violently killed than total deaths at the World Trade Center on September 11th 2001, but it has happened. It's an rarer month when there aren't.

    As the post to which you replied suggested, if only we could identify the common cause here.

  6. Re:truly an inspiration. by gtall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yes, but poll numbers show Muslims think Jihad in the name of Islam is perfectly potty, just as long as it isn't Muslims getting whacked. Also, Muslims believe political power comes from Allah, most Western (and Christian, I might add) nations believe political power comes from the people. As long as Muslims indulge themselves in this belief of Allah and political power, they will have no problem killing off non-Muslims, and they will never assimilate into Western nations. They will, instead, look at Western nations as nations not yet taken over.

    And the Muslim saying, "if Allah wills it" shows just how morally bankrupt they are. They will never lift themselves above dictatorships or dictatorships masquerading as theocracies. And don't bother pointing at Indonesia as a counterpoint, they periodically have pogroms targeting non-Muslims.

  7. Re:truly an inspiration. by currently_awake · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When your holy book says this is the word of God and these are the rules you shall live by, those outdated morals become a problem. We need to find a way to issue updates to the religions of the world. Continuing to use version 1.0 is causing compatibility issues.

  8. Re:Damn... by DaHat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Really? So the mentality of the left and radical Islam is no different then as well I guess... as from the left I hear that Climate Change is true, unquestionable and those who disagree must be hounded out of public life or forced to comply with certain beliefs... and from the radical Muslims we hear that if you do not subscribe to their particular interpretation you should be stoned, beheaded or set fire to.

    As you said "There is a difference in the end result, but the mindset is the same"

  9. Re:Islamic idiocy... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1, Interesting

    We have to wait until idiots like you understand that this has nothing to do with "islam" or religion at all; but is a political thing of power games, mislead jobless/hopeless/future less/uneducated idiots who easy follow "free speech" advice to fight "change" (threatening the mighty). It is exactly the same stuff that happened in pre Nazi Germany, leading to the rise of the Nazis.

    Europe had its most peaceful "Enlightening" periods when it was ruled by Islamic rulers ... after the Reconquista (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconquista) it dropped back into barbarism right after it.

    You seem to forget that nearly everything that was discovered and researched before Einstein is basically asian, arabic, islamic etc.

    The number of christian philosophers e.g. is rather slim: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...

    Well, to answer your question: we have to wait till people stop to exploit other people. All this bullshit going on in the world is about money and exploitation. Nothing has anything to do with any religion.

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  10. Re:truly an inspiration. by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Jews? It's really ludicrous to even bring up the Jews. Jews don't exist. Numerically, that is

    That's a ridiculous thing to say. Sure, they very much don't exist in some places, but they are extremely unevenly distributed due to some deliberate and deft political decisions on the part of the UK. They created the nation of Israel and one of the most complicated regions in the world got even more complicated — to the benefit of everyone but the residents of the region where the Jews were installed. And people are still lauding them for their benevolence, which is the most hilarious part.

    Tell you what though, go hang out with the Palestinians and share with them your idea that Jews don't exist. You'd better move quickly though, if you want to find any. Those nonexistent Jews are working on making that impossible.

    This is not to single out the Jews for bad treatment, just to point out that they are sufficiently numerous to commit atrocities. You know, kind of like Moses' slaughter of all the first-born sons... atrocities are kind of what they do, according to their own alleged history.

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