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Smart Headlights Adjust To Aid Drivers In Difficult Conditions

An anonymous reader writes: Researchers at Carnegie Mellon University's Robotics Institute are developing smart headlights that not only trace a car's movement around bends, but are programmable to assist a driver in a wide range of driving conditions. The research team, at the institute's Illumination and Imaging Laboratory, is looking into designing headlights which do not highlight raindrops and snowflakes in bad weather, instead passing light around the individual drops and improving visibility. Its near-future design would also be able to avoid glare even when the high beam is in use, detecting up-coming vehicles and disabling the range of light that is directed at it. They also hope to incorporate GPS data to adjust the direction of the headlights according to the lane that a driver is occupying, illuminating it more brightly compared to surrounding lanes. The technology is supported by a looped system which will constantly read, assess and react to driving conditions. The prototype also features a built-in camera to capture visual data before transferring it to a computer processor installed in the vehicle, where it can be analyzed.

125 comments

  1. Do not want by coinreturn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Way too complicated a solution for the problem. "Sorry, sir your headlight is not working. That'll be $2700 to fix it.

    1. Re:Do not want by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Yeah, ridiculously expensive, extremely over-complicated, and in the end of dubious value.

      We're supposed to believe this will "[pass] light around the individual drops and improving visibility"?

      My initial read of TFS was that it sounded like so much marketing crap.

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    2. Re:Do not want by 0123456 · · Score: 1

      We're supposed to believe this will "[pass] light around the individual drops and improving visibility"?

      This was mentioned a few years ago, for example: http://phys.org/news/2012-07-s...

      I presume this must be the same people. But I agree, I'd rather pay $5 for a replacement headlight bulb than $5,000.

    3. Re:Do not want by chispito · · Score: 2

      Way too complicated a solution for the problem. "Sorry, sir your headlight is not working. That'll be $2700 to fix it.

      If you can afford a car with this technology (assuming its actually possible and not only marketing gibberish), you can afford to have it fixed. And if for some reason you can't, just have normal headlights put in.

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    4. Re:Do not want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Way too complicated a solution for the problem. "Sorry, sir your headlight is not working. That'll be $2700 to fix it.

      This technology is great and everything, but the price of cars is getting to the point where even the used ones are getting too expensive. When I ask about financing, the first figure given out is a 60 month payment plan. 60 months! When I bought my first car, I though I was being stupid in financing it for 36. And there are people financing cars for 92 months. And when you add on the insurance, maintenance, taxes, gasoline, emissions testing, and anything else I failed to mention off of the top of my head, it's just getting ridiculous.

      And because people are keeping their cars longer (sign of our declining standard of living), used cars are retaining more of their value - meaning, it's getting harder to really save money buying used. The huge savings by buying a 3 year old car is shrinking. I haven't bought a new car (or used one for that matter) in 20 years. And if it wasn't for the fact that I learned auto mechanics, I'd be up a shits creek. When my current car shits the bed - actually, when the engine wears out - I'm gonna have to buy a 10 year old car.

      It's like there's this massive societal movement to force us into debt. Live in the city and use mass transit? Living in the city is so costly now, it's an even more expensive option.

      And yet, CEOs are making hundreds of millions of dollars sending good jobs overseas and hiring H1-bs.

    5. Re:Do not want by TWX · · Score: 1

      Back in the day, Tucker prototyped a car that had a headlight that aimed with the steering. Citroen had headlights on the DS that would steer with the car, to help the driver look around corners. More recently and most commonly in the seventies, many cars had cornering lamps that illuminated a bright flood to the side when the turn signal indicator was partially pulled or was fully engaged; my buddy's '72 Dodge Monaco has them and my '78 Chrysler Cordoba has them.

      Sounds to me like they need to just design fog lamps that can follow the steering and whose light is emitted at visible wavelengths best suited to less refraction when in contact with water. Do that and the car can possibly still have a user-serviceable bulb. Worst case, have some way for the car to detect the horizon or the road height/angle at the distance that the headlights are shining, so that the lights shine on the road ahead instead of at the sky or at the ground too close to the car when the road is hilly or undulating. That's a function of the headlamp bucket more than the illumination system though.

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    6. Re:Do not want by sinij · · Score: 1

      Try well over $5000 per to replace. At least that is how much adjustable laser-based headlights on the new BMW 7-series cost.

    7. Re:Do not want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BMW, Acura, and others released AFS (Active Front-Lighting System) features in the 2000s. My car has AFS HIDs. It is a nice but not must-have feature to have the headlights turn with the wheel. Seems most-useful at slow speeds, making sharp corners in poorly-lit residential areas. Less chance to not see a pedestrian or such. Cost if they break is a concern, but they've gone a decade and 160k miles without issue. Only maintenance has been new HID bulbs at 150k. They were getting dim/blue (HIDs do with age, so nothing specific to the AFS).

    8. Re:Do not want by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

      Better to be dead from bad lighting hiding a road hazard than to pay someone for a repair for something. That'll teach them.

      At least, you won't have to worry about them in the US. They are illegal. The new adaptive headlights by Audi are not for sale in the US, but are (almost?) everywhere else.

    9. Re:Do not want by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

      Your ludditeism is showing. There isn't a "bulb" in any of these. Would you rather have a CRT where a single failure renders the entire system 100% useless, or a LCD, where a pixel failure is usually not noticeable.

    10. Re:Do not want by Solandri · · Score: 1

      What makes you think it'll be that expensive? A DLP projector does basically the same thing, and the DLP chip itself can be bought for a few bucks. All you need is a to pair it with a high-speed camera which picks out bright spots and immediately directs that individual DLP mirror away from that location.

      I'm sure it'll be super-expensive when it first rolls out. But if the base technologies they're using are easily mass producible, it should get cheap quickly. The first flat screen TV hit the mass market just 17 years ago for over $20,000. You can now pick up a similar-sized one for about $400.

    11. Re:Do not want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes this is expensive today, though I have no doubt that the prices will come down with volume production and technology maturation.

      To the naysayers out there, I assure you that the design concept is sound: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/smartheadlight/index2.html

    12. Re:Do not want by David_Hart · · Score: 1

      Better to be dead from bad lighting hiding a road hazard than to pay someone for a repair for something. That'll teach them.

      At least, you won't have to worry about them in the US. They are illegal. The new adaptive headlights by Audi are not for sale in the US, but are (almost?) everywhere else.

      There are better solutions to this particular problem such as collision avoidance systems. I'd rather put money into something that can "see" much further down the road than a complicated lighting system and the driver's natural vision.

    13. Re:Do not want by lgw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My current car (a 12 Infiniti) has the steering headligts - great in the parking lot, really makes a different, not sure how much it matters at speed. It's currently a luxury feature, but with time and technology it won't be.

      I could certainly see these new additions (at some absurd price) being sold on top-tier luxury cars, where you can already get IR vision assistance with pedestrian highlighting for a few grand - adding this to that tech package would make sense, After a few years it might come down to more common luxury cars, which gets production up to where it can start the road to normal cars.

      Backup cameras used to be just as "who needs that" luxury, after all.

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    14. Re:Do not want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is a cool idea, and if it were at all affordable, I can see the value in it.

    15. Re:Do not want by Dins · · Score: 1

      I believe you, but I have a hard time believing the headlights on a $75,000 car truly cost $5,000. That's 6% of the purchase price just for lights. I'm sure standard obscene OEM part mark-ups apply, but I wonder how much they truly cost.

    16. Re:Do not want by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      "They also hope to incorporate GPS data to adjust the direction of the headlights according to the lane that a driver is occupying, illuminating it more brightly compared to surrounding lanes."

      I was all for the complicated but elegant solution until I hit that phrase. Considering how often GPS data sets can't even figure out that a road is one-way, this sounds like a solution that's going to behave very oddly when the data doesn't line up with the reality.

      They've got lots of good ideas, but there are huge implementation obstacles with most of them. Give me lights that are smart enough to handle what they can actually see; I don't want lights depending on someone else's data set to get the job done.

    17. Re:Do not want by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      My current car (a 12 Infiniti) has the steering headligts - great in the parking lot, really makes a different, not sure how much it matters at speed. It's currently a luxury feature, but with time and technology it won't be.

      Steering headlights aren't used as much at speed because at speed, you generally have far greater field of view so you can see farther ahead to anticipate.

      Steering headlights are useful at low speeds, generally urban turns and corners where the light suddenly pointing out a pedestrian is far more useful.

    18. Re:Do not want by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      There are better solutions to this particular problem such as collision avoidance systems.

      Audi provides those, too.

      I'd rather put money into something that can "see" much further down the road than a complicated lighting system and the driver's natural vision.

      The only company with more self-driving tech on the road than Audi is Mercedes. Tesla is supposed to come right up to speed with an upcoming software update, we'll see.

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    19. Re:Do not want by Mr.+Freeman · · Score: 1

      If you think someone is going to die because they had regular headlights instead of these headlights then you're an absolute fucking retard.

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    20. Re:Do not want by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Then I'm an absolute fucking retard. I've studied crashes (like as in crash reconstruction in engineering classes), and someone walking across a median is invisible when two oncoming cars are at the right distance in the right lighting conditions. The pedestrian is illuminated insufficiently compared to the oncoming glare. Yes, even if wearing white (though not if wearing a full yellow retro-reflective suit).

      So the invisible object, whether human, animal, or other, is invisible because of the lighting. But if both cars turned off their lights, the object is visible. You can't turn off your lights all the time and end up safer, but if you can turn off the other guy's lights where they hit your eyes, then you can see it.

      There's real science in it, and linked to real crashes that killed real people.

      That you are an ignorant buffoon doesn't change reality.

    21. Re: Do not want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about the dumbass not be in the median in the first place?

    22. Re:Do not want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Volvo had steering headlights since at least their 2008 V70 model. That's 7 years ago on a 'station wagon'. Adjustable headlights are not new. The specific light patterns to shine around rain drops is new.

    23. Re: Do not want by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      It's hard to cross a road without ever being in the middle.

    24. Re: Do not want by mordjah · · Score: 1

      And just in time for autonomous vehicles that don't even need visible light..

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    25. Re:Do not want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How exactly will the LCD light the road in front of you? It would probably be a better idea to go with LEDs since they actually produce light. LCDs stop light.

      And when did a Cathode Ray Tube become a bulb?

      So, you may not think you are a luddite, but you are just as ignorant.

      If you are talking about points of failure, the old traditional bulb has very few. The electrical source (battery and/or alternator/dynamo), the switch, the fuse, the wiring and the lamp. The new system replaces the lamp, and some of the function of the switch. The electrical source is no doubt more complicated as you provide power to the assembly as a whole, the CPU inside it, and individual elements. You need software to interpret the camera input, and hopefully light the correct elements. Although more of the new system is solid state, and degrades more slowly, the possible points of failure do increase.

      And speaking of making things complicated, look at how they say the system has a camera. "a built-in camera to capture visual data before transferring it to a computer processor installed in the vehicle[.]" Really, "capture visual data before transferring it to a computer processor[.]" Might be needed in the claims section of a patent, but a ridiculously long winded way to say it has a camera.

    26. Re:Do not want by dave420 · · Score: 1
    27. Re:Do not want by CoderFool · · Score: 1

      Yesterday's luxury is Today's necessity is Tomorrow's basic human right. As in I have a basic human right to have a car with a backup camera and smart headlights and a Blu-ray player for the kids and Pandora and....

    28. Re:Do not want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Back in the day, movable headlights were explicitly banned in a show of protectionism to make it harder for Citroen to sell the DS in the US. The same thing happened with MG and those hideous rubber bumpers. That is until a US car maker decided they wanted the same thing.

      Free market indeed.

    29. Re:Do not want by coinreturn · · Score: 1

      But there are competitors in the flat-screen market. These headlights can easily be proprietary, blocking aftermarket replacement parts. And even if there are aftermarket replacements, the market won't be large enough to drive down price - each car maker will have incompatible parts, probably even model-specific.

    30. Re: Do not want by unrtst · · Score: 1

      We have some crazy inventions which help deal with folks being in the middle of the road:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P...
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P...
      https://www.google.com/search?...

      Maybe these haven't become common enough in Alaska yet, but in most parts of the world, you're a dumbass if your standing on the median while traffic is still flowing both ways (dumbass may be a little harsh, but you shouldn't be there).

    31. Re: Do not want by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      So you only have ever been in places where jaywalking is illegal? I don't live in Alaska anymore, but I currently lice in a place where jaywalking is explicitly legal. And, aside from a place like NYC, almost nowhere has 100% of intersections controlled.

    32. Re:Do not want by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      "Back in the day, Tucker prototyped a car that had a headlight that aimed with the steering"

      Rolls Royce (and others) had this in the 1920s. It was especially popular in India for use on mountain roads.

    33. Re:Do not want by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      "The only company with more self-driving tech on the road than Audi is Mercedes."

      You're confusing Audi with VW.

      Everything in the recent crosscountry Audi was built and designed by Delphi (an automotive parts and electronics firm spun off of GM in the 1990s), not by Audi.

      Delphi stand to make billions by having this stuff incorporated widely as they sell to _all_ vehicle makers - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    34. Re: Do not want by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      Most of the world doesn't even _have_ a legal term for jaywalking. That's pretty much a USA-only oddity.

    35. Re:Do not want by sjames · · Score: 1

      I have an LCD now and it's nice, but I must admit that if the CRT was 100 times cheaper, I would have given it serious thought.

    36. Re:Do not want by sjames · · Score: 1

      Because the current latest and greatest already cost even more.

    37. Re:Do not want by sjames · · Score: 1

      I can just see all the cars "looking" all over the place in NYC as soon as they come out of the tunnel, then finally just going cross eyed.

    38. Re:Do not want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, yes I do deserve those things. Unlike what I believe you are implying though, I'm willing to pay for it.

  2. I'll be happy with one thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just give the ability to automatically brighten and focus the lights on the slow driver ahead, the slower they get, the more focused the beams in their rear view and side mirrors.

    That's all I need.

    1. Re:I'll be happy with one thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I equip my cars with these: http://www.unityusa.com/Spotlight-Catalog-By-Spotlight_c_137.html

      Works great.

    2. Re:I'll be happy with one thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When people can't see well they feel they're in more danger so they drive slower. Unfortunately, the "me getting there fast is more important than everyone's safety" attitude is common in the US, so it's all too common to see safe behavior returned with stupid behavior.

    3. Re:I'll be happy with one thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Around here, the slow driving has more to do with the fact that after 6pm half the drivers are drunk drivers. They even regularly wipe out police cars.

    4. Re:I'll be happy with one thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do this behind my car, I'll flip the mirrors, turn the music up and slow down another 10mph.

    5. Re:I'll be happy with one thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do this behind my car, I'll flip the mirrors, turn the music up and slow down another 10mph.

      It took me a while, but I now am pretty good at repositioning my left side and rear view mirrors in such a way that some of their high beam headlight glare goes back into their driver side windshield.

      And I keep gradually slowing down when one of these jackasses is behind me - then when they pass I immediately bump it up by 10mph. I want it to be obvious I was slowing down because of their behavior.

      It's never turned into a problem. Occasionally one of them gets right beside me, but then they figure out I'm bigger than they are... at which point they don't stick around.

    6. Re:I'll be happy with one thing... by amiga3D · · Score: 0

      Around here they've largely eliminated drunk driving except for the extremely hardcore idiots. Draconian fines, suspended licenses and jail times have gotten everyone with any clue at all to not drive if they've had even one beer. Most parties have designated drivers and the ones that know they'll drink too much mostly just leave the car home. There is no excuse for an adult driving a car while intoxicated.

    7. Re:I'll be happy with one thing... by amiga3D · · Score: 2

      Really, I've gotten good at adjusting the rear view mirror so it beams directly back at the car behind me. If I'm too slow then fucking go around. If you're in that big a hurry, buy a hot car that can pass anything but a gas station and get the fuck on down the road. Leave me be.

    8. Re:I'll be happy with one thing... by taustin · · Score: 1

      I knew a guy, years ago, who had the magic touch for that - he'd just flick the rearview mirror and it would shine the headlights of the car behind us perfectly back in the driver's eyes. I wish I would do that.

    9. Re:I'll be happy with one thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I'm that slow driver, that will make me slow down more because I can't see shit.

    10. Re:I'll be happy with one thing... by kimvette · · Score: 1

      I use extra bright rear fogs on my car to deal with asshole tailgaters (I love european cars - they come with rear fogs, all you need to enable them in some is a different headlamp switch module, and others you need to add four lines of code using freely-available diagnostic tools) ... and have been thinking about installing a flat array of ultra bright LEDs or even uncollimated laser diodes to deal with the assholes who still don't get the hint. :)

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    11. Re:I'll be happy with one thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use extra bright rear fogs on my car to deal with asshole tailgaters (I love european cars - they come with rear fogs, all you need to enable them in some is a different headlamp switch module, and others you need to add four lines of code using freely-available diagnostic tools) ... and have been thinking about installing a flat array of ultra bright LEDs or even uncollimated laser diodes to deal with the assholes who still don't get the hint. :)

      It's fun shooting out rear fogs on slow drivers who ignore traffic stacking up like a train behind them. Sometimes I miss the lights, however. Thus far, I don't think I've hit anyone.

    12. Re:I'll be happy with one thing... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I use extra bright rear fogs on my car to deal with asshole tailgaters

      I use the phone to call the cops on people who activate a white light on the rear of their car while proceeding forwards, because it's dangerous.

      If you don't want people behind you, pull your slow ass over. That's what I do when I am driving the minivan over the grade and someone inevitably catches up to me. I just get the fuck out of the way, both because that's what I would want them to do for me, and because what do I want them back there for anyway?

      If you won't get out of the way when someone wants to go faster, you're not just part of the problem, you're the whole problem.

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    13. Re:I'll be happy with one thing... by skids · · Score: 1

      When people can't see well they feel they're in more danger so they drive slower.

      Yep, and start aiming their rearview mirrors to shine back in the asshole's face.

      No honestly, why these boneheads can muster the balls to tailgate me and turn on their highbeams, but don't have the balls to cross the double line and pass me is a total mystery. I suspect they are just satisfying some repressed passive-aggressive pathology. Because I sure as hell am not going to speed up no matter how much of an idiot they make of themselves.

    14. Re:I'll be happy with one thing... by kimvette · · Score: 1

      Rear fog lights are red.

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    15. Re:I'll be happy with one thing... by kimvette · · Score: 1

      If you're tailgating someone in the right lane you are the problem.

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    16. Re:I'll be happy with one thing... by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      For the past year I've made a conscious effort to disengage my mind from the negative aspects of driving. My best solution is to drive with an engaging audio book or podcast playing. Instead of trying to change the behavior of other drivers, I'm working on self-improvement.

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    17. Re:I'll be happy with one thing... by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      "I use extra bright rear fogs"

      A appropriately pointed Sunpak flashgun works wonders too (other brands do exist)

      Having said that there's a special circle of hell reserved for those who fail to keep to the right (or left in you're in a keep left country) when not overtaking. Just about every set of road rules in the world says not to linger in the overtaking lanes and just about every country in the world has munters on the freeways who believe that the edge lane is for trucks, or that they're free to use any lane with no regard to what's behind.

      If you want to go slow, that's fine. If you prevent others passing safely then you're an asshole.

  3. Eh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "They also hope to incorporate GPS data to adjust the direction of the headlights according to the lane that a driver is occupying, illuminating it more brightly compared to surrounding lanes"

    My car's current headlights already do this, you know... by being in the lane the car is currently occupying. In this case it seems pointing straight ahead is achievable without any CPU cycles.

    1. Re:Eh... by Golddess · · Score: 1

      My thoughts exactly. Isn't my car already doing this without the use of GPS? Is there something I am overlooking?

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    2. Re: Eh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't driven everywhere on the planet, maybe some roads were designed by Escher someplace?

    3. Re:Eh... by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      Is there something I am overlooking?

      Yes ... the manufacturer's CEO's salary.

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    4. Re:Eh... by tomhath · · Score: 2

      My car's current headlights already do this

      Only if the road is straight. As soon as the road curves a bit your lights are shining somewhere else.

  4. What? Wait ... by theCat · · Score: 1

    That read like it was from The Onion. Around individual rain drops?

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    1. Re:What? Wait ... by bughunter · · Score: 5, Informative

      The bit you're apparently not grasping is something called a spatial light modulator.

      You've probably encountered one as a digital cinema projector, or possibly even own one for PowerPoint presentations.

      Couple it with a microwave radar or ultrasound sonar, and you can track individual raindrops and then cast shadows on them.

      Sounds unnecessarily expensive for consumer automotive, but might be nice for buses/locomotives, emergency vehicles or passenger aircraft.

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    2. Re:What? Wait ... by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      I'm thinking of DLP projectors, or even a black and white CRT display. Something is spinning or scanning so fast that not only it avoids lighting up certain zones, it's so precise that it gives you a recognizable picture with human people and faces etc. and so fast they seem to be moving.

      Let's say you have infrared lights, an infrared camera filming the rain and a black and white DLP projector trained on it (reverse video), acting as a car headlight. You would need a very low latency though, or perhaps the system is studying the rain and doing motion compensation to compensate latency (but that would add latency of its own)

    3. Re:What? Wait ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      No you can't cast a shadow on each raindrop. . Only all of the raindrops Ina fixed plane. Because of the circle of confusion.

  5. I'd settle for appropriate brightness by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 3, Informative

    Those stupidly overbright headlamps that dazzle you could be replaced by ones that dim themselves when they see oncoming traffic.

    Or, you know, just made illegal. I'm sure they don't actually improve road safety, at least, not for everyone.

    1. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those stupidly overbright headlamps that dazzle you could be replaced by ones that dim themselves when they see oncoming traffic.

      Or, you know, just made illegal. I'm sure they don't actually improve road safety, at least, not for everyone.

      Will it also stop all those fools driving around with their fog lights on all the time?

    2. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've been dazzled by fog lights? What are you driving, this?

      http://www.roadraceengineering.com/suitcasecar.htm

      Or are you frustrated because they're being used for something other than fog? If they aren't doing anything other than triggering your OCD, why should we care?

    3. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by Solandri · · Score: 1

      Those stupidly overbright headlamps that dazzle you could be replaced by ones that dim themselves when they see oncoming traffic.

      Wouldn't this do that automatically? The mechanism shouldn't be able to distinguish between light being reflected off a snowflake, and light coming from another car. And will dim its headlight aimed at that location in both cases.

    4. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      What they really need is lights that come on in the rain for all the people that either don't know to turn them on or forget. I'm tired of grey/silver cars suddenly appearing out of a driving rain almost on top of me. Turn the damn lights on! Maybe they could also get them to come on at dusk and in parking garages and tunnels.

    5. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by Bratch · · Score: 1

      I wish law enforcement would crack down on the stupidly overbright headlamps.
      I think "Hulk SMASH" in my head everytime they momentarily blind me.

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    6. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      Is that the SUV that you think has it's high beams on until you flash them so they flash you back and you see spots for five minutes? He lives down the street from me I think he uses the high beams when he goes camping to roast marshmallows.

    7. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by retroworks · · Score: 1

      How about if they can program the headlight to avoid the pupils and irises of people? That could be cool.

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    8. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by ArylAkamov · · Score: 1

      Most of this is due to improperly installed HID conversions (Putting HID bulbs in without projectors/fake projectors). Illegal in most parts of the world except the U.S.

    9. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those stupidly overbright headlamps that dazzle you could be replaced by ones that dim themselves when they see oncoming traffic.

      Or how 'bout instead you get your eyes checked, I know that I've never been blinded by HIDs except for the few times an aftermarket kit was installed without being re-aimed. After upgraded to them myself I'd never go back to those cruddy halogens that don't illuminate worth a damn.

    10. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Most of this is due to improperly installed HID conversions (Putting HID bulbs in without projectors/fake projectors).

      It's actually dumber than that. It's putting in the wrong HID bulbs. You can get ones that put the arc in the right place, the same place that the halogen filament would be.

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    11. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by holmstar · · Score: 1

      The filament in a halogen bulb isn't the same size and shape as the incandescent gas in an HID bulb. The reflector would need to be redesigned in order to use an HID buib without causing glare. It is pretty much never a good idea to use an HID bulb in a halogen fixture.

    12. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by skids · · Score: 1

      Or side-and-rear-mounted lights that illuminate the road beside you, and a V2V communication bus that allows headight systems to cooperate to light the road and not shine in other driver's eyes.

      I actually find this research more realistic and practical than self-driving cars.

    13. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      The filament in a halogen bulb isn't the same size and shape as the incandescent gas in an HID bulb.

      The gas doesn't luminesce. The arc provides the light directly. You can put it wherever you want if you plan ahead.

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    14. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by kimvette · · Score: 1

      Not true; the arc itself is what creates the light and if you select the correct lamp you can use the same reflector or projector headlamp to get the right beam pattern. The only difference is the old H6054 style sealed beams sprayed light pretty much everywhere but modern composite headlamp assemblies do not do this. You can even get properly designed reflector or projector assemblies and replace the H6054 with the newer assemblies and the beam pattern will be just fine.

      In fact many newer cars which offer an HID option will use the same basic headlamp assembly (whether reflector or projector) with either the halogen or HID lamps; the mounting flange will change in order to accommodate the ballast + D2S/D2R lamp asembly or the H7/H4/H3/H1+holder assembly. In either case the light source is in the correct location for proper focus and collimation because it is the arc between the electrodes producing the light, not the entire gas-filled globe inside the lamp.

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    15. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What they really need is to hand out fines to the 50+ percent of assholes I see on the highway in every downpour without their lights on. It's honestly just basic common sense - if you can't figure out that people can't see you then you really shouldn't be driving.

    16. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty sure it's illegal in the US too, but basically no traffic laws in the US are enforced except for speeding and DUI (ie. the easiest ones for the cops to meet quota with).

    17. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      In Europe extra bright headlights (HID, LED etc.) are require to have auto-levelling so as not to blind oncoming drivers. You are not allowed to fit them to cars that don't have auto-levelling as an upgrade.

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    18. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by rpstrong · · Score: 1

      Dimming the part of the beam that would hit an oncoming driver is covered in the linked article.

    19. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      "Those stupidly overbright headlamps that dazzle you could be replaced by ones that dim themselves when they see oncoming traffic."

      Such things have existed since the 1950s. In production USA vehicles no less.

      People wouldn't buy them.

    20. Re:I'd settle for appropriate brightness by stoatwblr · · Score: 1

      "You've been dazzled by fog lights?"

      Many times. Foglights plus wet road = nice low angle reflection into oncoming driver eyes.

      Around here the cops almost always stop drivers running on fogs because (as they put it) "illegal behaviour of one sort or another is seldom done in isolation"

      More prosaically they find that most drivers who do it are either uninsured or unlicensed.

  6. Helpful Headlights by Greyfox · · Score: 1

    If they sense that disaster is impending, they simply turn themselves off to prevent the driver from becoming overly distressed in his last moments! (Think Peril-sensitive shades for your car!)

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  7. "Smart" Headlights by MartinD · · Score: 1

    .. yeah, so when will they be programmed to not blind oncoming drivers, cyclists, and pedestrians. So far, any improvement I've noted in headlight technology is wasted by the fact that none of the new headlights seem to be illuminating the road, instead we're getting an illumination arms races because headlights are making it hard for anyone (other traffic, travelling in opposite directions) to see where and what they're doing.

    1. Re:"Smart" Headlights by bazorg · · Score: 1

      I drove a 2011 Mercedes E class that did just that. I called them 'polite headlights'. I'm sure other manufacturers know how to do the same kind of thing.

    2. Re:"Smart" Headlights by labnet · · Score: 1

      #this#
      HID headlights, especially those front lens type ones, are now so bright, that they leave you night blind for a second or so when inevitably hit you the eyeballs. If car makers want super bright headlights, they need to be designed to not be able to night blind other drivers.

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    3. Re:"Smart" Headlights by holmstar · · Score: 1

      Usually the cars that are meant to come with HID headlights will not blind you, because the reflector is designed to cut off the beam above headlight level. The cars that blind you are almost always cars that were made for halogen, but have HIDs installed.

    4. Re:"Smart" Headlights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Usually the cars that are meant to come with HID headlights will not blind you, because the reflector is designed to cut off the beam above headlight level.

      Until the owner installs a lift kit or larger wheels that lift the headlights higher than the manufacturer calibrated them for.

    5. Re:"Smart" Headlights by labnet · · Score: 2

      Usually the cars that are meant to come with HID headlights will not blind you, because the reflector is designed to cut off the beam above headlight level.

      The problem is cars that come over rises or banked coners.

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    6. Re:"Smart" Headlights by rpstrong · · Score: 1

      If you read the linked article, you'd see that lighting the road - and blocking light that would hit oncoming drivers - is very much what they are working on.

    7. Re:"Smart" Headlights by rpstrong · · Score: 1

      Not quite the same. This system leaves the light on the high setting overall, but dims the part of the beam that would hit the oncoming driver. Result: a well lit road, but reduced glare.

  8. We have prototypes of these, working by smellsofbikes · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I did a bunch of work recently on a headlight that automatically dims just the area around a detected oncoming car, so you can drive with your brights on all the time and it'll automatically filter out detected oncoming traffic so they don't get blinded.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
    (Sucks to be a pedestrian in this world, though...)
    It uses steering wheel position, input from a webcam, and gps and map data to determine where the beam distribution is directed. This specific implementation only works on red cars, but we have some good ideas about how to generalize this.
    Current car lights are already optimized somewhat to illuminate further and higher on the outside side of the car compared to the inside, to reduce glare for oncoming drivers. Doing this automatically, over a wider area, will be a nice stopgap until autonomous vehicles render this whole focus irrelevant.

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    1. Re:We have prototypes of these, working by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that you in the video? One word of advice: shampoo.

    2. Re:We have prototypes of these, working by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't you notice his slashdot username?

    3. Re:We have prototypes of these, working by chihowa · · Score: 1

      This specific implementation only works on red cars, but we have some good ideas about how to generalize this.

      If you can reliably see that an oncoming car is red through a webcam at night, you've already blinded the other driver! Instead of making generalized car-recognition algorithms, why not take advantage of the fact that the other cars will have their lights on, too? The location and color of the various car lights are fairly standardized.

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    4. Re:We have prototypes of these, working by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      The location and color of the various car lights are fairly standardized.

      What? Who told you that? The landscape is complicated for all but malaise-era cars due to the existence of multiple technologies both in production and the aftermarket, and it's about to get a whole lot moreso with the proliferation of LED headlights, active-aiming headlights, and headlights like the ones discussed in TFA with other active light modulation technologies.

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    5. Re:We have prototypes of these, working by chihowa · · Score: 1

      Are you claiming that there are no vehicular lighting standards in place, or that you can't instantly recognize the position and orientation of a car in the dark based on its lights alone?

      Identifying cars based on their lights may be complicated, but it's by far the simplest method of identifying cars by CV at night.

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  9. Static lens and no servos or sensors please by sinij · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Such over-engineered solution is probably works great on a clear night over smooth road with a new car. Try the same over potholed road, when entire front of your car is iced up, with a car that is now 6+ years old and both servos and sensors are worn.

    My personal experiences with early generation of 'around the corner' adjustable headlights is that they visibly vibrate over bumps (you can see cutoff oscillate).

  10. That's Nice, But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...it will get scragged by safety ordinances.

    They've had directional headlights for decades in Europe.

    If you import a car that uses them, like a Citröen, you will be required to break that capability, and make them fixed-forward.

  11. Dupe? Or finally here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  12. This is the future? by mariox19 · · Score: 1

    Its near-future design would also be able to avoid glare even when the high beam is in use, detecting up-coming vehicles [...]

    My father bought a Cadillac in 1980 that had its headlights working like this. The high beams were on more or less by default, but would switch to regular headlights when an on-coming car approached.

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    1. Re:This is the future? by taustin · · Score: 1

      I saw one of those driving through a parking lot once. It saw every light pole as an oncoming car, so the headlights would go bright, dim, bright, dim, endlessly. It was hilarious.

      The technology in 1980 was . . . not fully developed.

    2. Re: This is the future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1980, meh, Chrysler had it in the 1960s. Just hope a tube didn't burn out.

  13. problems with making stuff invisible to drivers by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    The bit you're apparently not grasping is something called a spatial light modulator. ... Couple it with a microwave radar or ultrasound sonar, and you can track individual raindrops and then cast shadows on them.

    Then construct an object that appears to the system to be raindrops and you can put an invisible obstacle in the road. B-b

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  14. BMW demoed something similar at CES this year by ScienceofSpock · · Score: 1

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?... Their technology is used to avoid blinding oncoming drivers instead of trying to "miss" raindrops.

  15. BMW by hondo77 · · Score: 1

    You mean like this?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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  16. Aren't headlights redundant... by Lab+Rat+Jason · · Score: 1

    ...considering that self-driving cars are just a few weeks away?

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  17. Audi did it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I could have sworn that Audi demoed this autodimming feature several years ago...

  18. Not so new... by lavaboy · · Score: 1

    I already have most of this function in my Opel Insignia... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiSCCXaxzXc

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  19. Already sold in German cars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not that I want it, but high end German cars (Mercedes, Audi) do actually have this, and had for years.
    Audi currently is working on even changing the beam (wide, narrow) for slow (wide) and higher (narrow and far) speeds.

  20. Back to the future by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    " Its near-future design would also be able to avoid glare even when the high beam is in use, detecting up-coming vehicles and disabling the range of light that is directed at it."

    Very near 'future' indeed. My 2 year old VW Golf has that feature. Benz has had it for years.

  21. Solution in search of a problem by kheldan · · Score: 1

    ..instead passing light around the individual drops

    What the hell is THIS crap anyway? Sounds like a great way to both add a couple thousand dollars onto the price of a new car, and to also create a highly complex point of failure that you can't just stop by any auto parts store to fix in 10 minutes. Lights that follow the path of the car based on steering angle, sure, that's sensible (I have a helmet-mounted instead of handlebar-mounted light for night riding on my bike for that very reason) but the rest of it? Nonsense. Standard lighting on a gimbal that can adjust for conditions and steering would be good though.

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  22. Slow down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ..if driving condition is not favorable.

  23. good news by DriveDog · · Score: 1

    Apparently most people have no idea about the appropriate use of high beams and auxiliary lights, manufacturers just keep making headlights brighter and more dazzling, and governments require them to be mounted higher rather than lower, resulting in oncoming drivers being blinded. In light of all this, automating the lighting systems could help, given that oncoming lighting is just getting worse every year.

  24. Oh plz ur an ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are annoying me and so I'm going to annoy you back. I'll cut you off, pass on the right, and pass in a curve if I am really in a hurry. Nope, if I am riding your ass with the brights blaring it is because I am being an asshole. I'm an asshole because you are an asshole. A cowardly one at that. You can always respond with "oh I'm just being safe", "I'm completely within the law", and other pussy-assed behavior but we all know that what you're really doing is white knighting for some unknown "greater good". If you wanted to be a goddamned cop then maybe you should have gone to be one instead of rolling around on the highway forcing your brand of safety and the law. When everyone is yelling at you, I'm sorry skidmark, you're the fucking problem.

  25. Excuse me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was unaware of a spatial light modulator. See, I'm from Mars and your gadgetry amazes me. Too bad I'm going to have to blow it all up. See what I am VERY familiar with is the Illudium Q-36 explosive space modulator. You'll probably encounter one in approximately 20 minutes as a large rocket heading straight for your planet. It will be followed up shortly by an Earth-shattering kaboom!

  26. Wrong End by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about you program those damned LED taillights to point away from my eyes :/

  27. fuck you! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those same dazzling lamps that the OP was bitching about also plug right in to your fog light assemblies. I'm guessing that you already know that though. People who immediately have a defensive fit when someone mentions their fake ass HIDs are most likely guilty as fuck of using them. You don't need to be driving a suitcase car to get blinded. Assholes like you are driving around in jacked up 4x4s running 6 or 8 of them while purposefully belching excessive amounts of diesel smoke ya know, just to make up for those faggoty Priuses. My OCD isn't the only thing with a trigger, asshole.