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Chinese Security Vendor Qihoo 360 Caught Cheating In Anti-virus Tests

Bismillah writes: China's allegedly largest security vendor Qihoo 360 has fessed up to supplying custom versions of its AV for testing according to an investigation by Virus Bulletin, AV-Comparatives and AV-Test. "On requesting an explanation from Qihoo 360 for their actions (PDF), the firm confirmed that some settings had been adjusted for testing, including enabling detection of types of files such as keygens and cracked software, and directing cloud lookups to servers located closer to the test labs. After several requests for specific information on the use of thirdparty engines, it was eventually confirmed that the engine configuration submitted for testing differed from that available by default to users."

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  1. Broken test? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If the test is checking for non-virus files like keygens it sounds like the test is broken. AV software should detect things that are harmful to your computer, not things that software vendors don't like but are otherwise harmless.

    I'm not surprised they ship with keygen detection off in China.

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  2. Not really an issue by ITRambo · · Score: 3, Informative

    The company submitted 360 Total Security with Bitdefender enabled to the antivirus test firms. It was very highly rated. The 360 TS and TSE base products let you enable Bitdefender and Avira engines, but does not come with them pre-enabled. They also have a version that comes with Bitdefender enabled called 360 TSE Enhanced. This is what was submitted, as I understand this issue. I'm not convinced that there was any "trickery". It more than likely was poor communication between the firms.

  3. Re:Is this shocking? by tippen · · Score: 3, Informative

    I am not shocked, but I am confused. Why would they give bad software to their customers, but give good software to the testers? The marginal cost of software is zero. So, if they have good software, why don't they give it to their customers? Can someone please explain how any of this makes sense?

    It's really easy to "detect" everything so you get a high detection rate. It's really hard to do so without a ton of false positives.

    Very few of the tests out there check for false positives, so it is easy to game the results. You could never ship the product to customers that way because you'd drown in support calls from customers complaining about programs not work, broken websites, etc.

  4. Re:Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Chinese here too.

    360 is no "joke" in all seriousness. They are bullies, really badass bullies.

    They "kidnapped" hundreds of thousands of terminals (PC/Phone/browser) by disguising themselves as a "security guard", telling users what is bad and what is good, and then blackmail developers and websites to bribe them to get into their "good" list.

    My company has a website that only shows text and picture news and contact info and stuff. One day 360 decided to reported our website as "security threat" and show warning on ALL 360 browsers (which is A LOT).

    We contacted them, they told us to put "a security script" into our server. Once they confirmed the script is in place, they re-score our website to 100-OK, without asking us to modify/patch anything.

    What that script does (thankfully it's PHP so it's naturally "open source") is scanning our whole www directory, upload whatever info they want, and even modify our code whenever they like.

    Oh, and they also labeled my company's phone number as scam in their "smartphone guard", even though we've been using it for years.