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New Test Supports NASA's Controversial EM Drive

An anonymous reader writes: Last year, NASA's advanced propulsion research wing made headlines by announcing the successful test of a physics-defying electromagnetic drive, or EM drive. Now, this futuristic engine, which could in theory propel objects to near-relativistic speeds, has been shown to work inside a space-like vacuum. NASA Eagleworks made the announcement quite unassumingly via NASASpaceFlight.com. The EM drive is controversial in that it appears to violate conventional physics and the law of conservation of momentum; the engine, invented by British scientist Roger Sawyer, converts electric power to thrust without the need for any propellant by bouncing microwaves within a closed container. So, with no expulsion of propellant, there’s nothing to balance the change in the spacecraft’s momentum during acceleration.

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  1. Re:This again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    They've gone into plaid?

  2. Re:This again? by Greyfox · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well the tests keep showing the damn thing works! Maybe it's just magic. Works based on fairies flying out of an engineer's butt, or something. Hopefully it doesn't break the universe :-/

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  3. Re:This again? by Revarg · · Score: 3, Funny

    Actually, the test shows that is not fairies flying out of the engineer's butt, but rather invisible unicorns pushing the unit. Those tricky magical bastards....

  4. Re:I want this to be true, but... by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Funny
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    Irony: Agile development has too much intertia to be abandoned now.
  5. A perfect combination by DrJimbo · · Score: 5, Funny

    They say one of the limiting factors (aside from violating the laws of physics) is the political will to launch a large nuclear power plant into space. The solution is obvious: use Cold Fusion to power the EM drive. There is great efficiency here because they can get two Nobel prizes with only one gadget.

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  6. Re:This again? by PvtVoid · · Score: 4, Funny

    If two magnets get close enough and snap together are they violating conservation of momentum when forces are acting on them to accelerate toward each other?

    Of course not. The total momentum of the system stays zero.

    When I was a kid, I tried to make a self-propelled car by putting magnets on the back and front bumpers of a toy car, reasoning that the front magnet would attract the back one, and therefore produce thrust. When I built it, I learned a valuable lesson: it doesn't work. Because the force pulling the back magnet forward is exactly counterbalanced by the force pulling the front magnet backward.

    The EM drive is closely analagous to this idea. Except that they didn't figure out when they were eight that this will never work.

  7. Re:This again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    https://xkcd.com/1404/

  8. Re:This again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Area man refuses to accept that something was demonstrated by a scientific experiment can possibly be true - insists that his knowledge of science as an 8 year old was more advanced than that of actual actual specialized scientists.

  9. Re:This again? by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just because we can't see the balance doesn't mean it isn't there.

    So it's powered by a typical Comcast bill

  10. Re:This again? by CaptainLugnuts · · Score: 4, Funny

    On the actual surface of Alpha Centauri? Probably not.

  11. Re:Why are people posting this nonsense? by Pluvius · · Score: 1, Funny

    it appears to violate conventional physics and the law of conservation of momentum;
    No, it does not, otherwise it would not work.

    A theoretical physicist, an applied physicist, and an engineer walk into a bar.
    The engineer says, "Thanks barkeep, may I have another?"
    The bartender bets the three that he can serve them beer at FTL speeds.
    The theoretical physicist says, "Preposterous! That would violate all sorts of fundamental laws including causality!"
    The applied physicist says, "If it works, it doesn't matter what your theory says!"