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Ubuntu 15.04 Received Well By Linux Community

jones_supa writes: Canonical released Ubuntu 15.04 a couple of weeks ago, and it seems that this release has been a success. The community is mostly reporting a nice experience, which is important since this is the first Ubuntu release that uses systemd instead of upstart. At Slashdot, people have been very nervous about systemd, and last year it was even asked to say something nice about it. To be fair, Ubuntu 15.04 hasn't changed all that much. Some minor visual changes have been implemented, along with a couple of new features, but the operating system has remained pretty much the same. Most importantly it is stable, fast, and it lacks the usual problems accompanied by new releases.

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  1. In before Unity bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    A friendly reminder that if you hate Unity, Ubuntu also supports KDE, Xfce, LXDE, Enlightenment, Cinnamon, GNOME Shell, MATE, and the CLI.

  2. Re:Systemd and Gnome3 == no thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    It's not using gnome3, but the good old Unity which IMHO is the best at multi-screen setups where both KDE and Gnome have quite a bit to catch up.

    Systemd is invisible for most ordinary users.

  3. Re:Systemd and Gnome3 == no thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    >As far as I can tell, there is no root account I could log into directly

    Seriously?

    $ sudo passwd
    $ sudo passwd -u root

    There, now you can log into root directly and have all the security issues you want. Thanks for playing the "I don't know how to use linux" game

  4. LTS by AndyCanfield · · Score: 5, Informative

    15.04 is not an "LTS" (Long Term Support). So we will continue to run 14.04 LTS on our servers, and on my workstation. I guess we will stick to it for another year, until April 2016. Ah well. Good Luck, gang, and thank you for the good job, Ubuntu.

  5. Re:Systemd and Gnome3 == no thanks by fnj · · Score: 2, Informative

    Everybody knows it's:
    $ sudo passwd # to give root a password so you can log in as root
    and
    $ sudo su - # to log in as root

  6. Re:Systemd and Gnome3 == no thanks by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yeah, I have seen far too many people who want to run as root/admin because it's more convenient.

    And I have seen far too many people staring at a screen with that "oh, shit, what do I do now?" look because they just royally fsck'd their system.

    In fact, I've known several admins who I subsequently came to realize were mostly faking it after several instances of completely hosing a system because they just thought it was easier to stay logged in as root/admin "just in case".

    Same with all of the crap software on Windows which says "oh, just disable UAC or this software to work". or "this software needs to run as root/admin". Yeah, sorry, but no. If you're software insists I disable sane security on my system, your software sucks, and you were too damned lazy to write better code. Hell, I saw one thing years ago which said "the admin user should have a blank password for this software to work" ... and it didn't get installed.

    The problem is people get into that period where they think "I'm a big boy admin now, I don't need safeguards because I'm that good". Those people are generally dangerous and reckless fools.

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  7. Re:Mint 15 by kthreadd · · Score: 3, Informative

    How about sudo -i?

  8. Re:Systemd and Gnome3 == no thanks by davydagger · · Score: 3, Informative
    I had a few technical gripes with Ubuntu, but lets ignore the technical failings, and just assume that all critiques are purely social, because well, you want them to be. But remember, these people are nerds not writers or soft scientists, so the fair amount of projection about their motives can stay put. Some real reasons I frown on Ubuntu:

    1. build quality of 14.xx was utter crap. It crashed more than windows.

    2. Unity had some privacy issues with sending user search data to paying partners automaticly(amazon).

    3. Canonical doesn't like to give back upstream. Before you say anything, there are many companies that do wonderful things for the kernel, GNU, and related bits and pieces to make the magic happen. The two biggest contributors being Intel and Red Hat, but linux has a lot of very large corporate heavy hitters world wide contributing great things. After not giving back, the CEO and founder Mark Shuttleworth talks a lot of shit about the people who are actually doing most of the real work. MIR/Wayland is the latest fiasco. instead of contributing to wayland, they decided to make their own graphics server, which ultimately will only be used by them. The supposed cause of wayland not being advanced enough turned out to be bogus, as RH will likely ship fedora with wayland default long before Canonical does a MIR default Ubuntu. Oh yeah. Speaking of Red Hat, not only do they make a rock solid distro, they contribute back, and oh, they still manage to turn a profit, something Canonical seems unable to do.

    4. previous versions of Unity where dog slow, but they've seemed to have gotten better.

    For the non-technical, I recommend Mint, which was forked from Ubuntu, and contains most of the good n00b friendly stuff from ubuntu. It goes down easy and it "Just works". The best part is I can "OEM Install" it, so I can put it as the default OS on computers I fix up and give away, and not have to worry about pirated copies of windows, or the non-techies getting all confuzzled.

  9. Re:sudo bash by LordLimecat · · Score: 1, Informative

    Im pretty sure that ubuntu uses dash, not bash.

    You can use bash, but things may behave abnormally.

  10. Re:sudo bash by kthreadd · · Score: 3, Informative

    By default Ubuntu uses dash as /bin/sh, but has /bin/bash as root's shell. Both can of course be changed by the user.

  11. Re:The SystemD marketing rolls on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    except, you know, for the part where upstart predates systemd by 4 years.

  12. Re:sudo bash by Ash-Fox · · Score: 3, Informative

    It "works", but sudo bash doesn't run bash with the login option.
    Use sudo su -

    Seriously, stop spreading bad practice. The proper practice is "sudo -i".

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  13. Re:Ubuntu maybe, but Kubuntu on the other hand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    oh and I some recommendations:

    force the DPI settings. For whatever reason, kde just fucks up fonts hardcore when using proprietary drivers. also I found that the kde version available in the kubuntu backports ppa is somewhat more stable than the 15.04 default version.