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Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Announces Bid For White House
seven of five writes: According to Reuters, "Former Hewlett-Packard Co Chief Executive Carly Fiorina announced on Monday she is running for president, becoming the only woman in the pack of Republican candidates for the White House in 2016. ... Fiorina registers near the bottom of polls of the dozen or so Republican hopefuls and has never held public office. But she has already attracted warm receptions at events in the early voting state of Iowa where she is positioning herself as a conservative, pro-business Republican highly critical of Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton. Fiorina was forced by HP to resign in 2005 as the tech company struggled to digest Compaq after a $19 billion merger."
As part of her announcement, she said, "I think I'm the best person for the job because I understand how the economy actually works. I understand the world, who's in it, how the world works." I'm sure we'll soon begin hearing from all the HP employees, current and former, who have nothing but love for Carly F.
As part of her announcement, she said, "I think I'm the best person for the job because I understand how the economy actually works. I understand the world, who's in it, how the world works." I'm sure we'll soon begin hearing from all the HP employees, current and former, who have nothing but love for Carly F.
Carly was such an awesome CEO that I left HP after a 12 years successful career. At least I don't live in Murica so I won't have to leave if she gets elected by mistake
This cycle's slate of republican canidates is so packed with FAIL is unbelievable. Most tollerable in the pack is....Rand Paul, who at least gets a handful of things right. But put her next to Ted "Obamacare for the internet" Cruz, and of course yet another member of the Bush family. Yes Jeb is looking to run in 2016.
She's going to take this country away from the engineers and give it to the clueless executives who care about nothing beyond next quarter's numbers.
But wait - this already happened!
She did fuck all WHILE she was a corporate executive, too.
Why does the media take people like this seriously? I think the corporate media automatically fawns over a CEO. It doesn't matter that the CEO is a failure.
She is also the postergirl for "failing upwards" and the fact that we don't have any meritocracy in this country. She doesn't deserve to be a manger at Arby's at this point, and she doesn't deserve respect. But still the Corporate media fawns.
Treating sexes equally means that when a hack comes our way we judge her just like a man.
Carly deserves nothing extra because she is a woman. She has been piss poor at every job she has ever taken and she is showing exactly the OPPOSITE in attitudes we need when we are at a time in history when we need some real (that is anti-corporate) action in government.
What socialism is going on? Really... I don't see it. Obamacare? It is a boon to private insurance. Obama is a corporatist, just like every president since Reagan.
They can blame socialism for whatever problems we have, but it is a hollow argument.
So, just like everybody else running for president?
There are various reasons Stallman couldn't make it as politician, but the most relevant one right now is that in the US we can't have candidates that can't be packaged like a product. Stallman is loud. He has long hair. He has mistakes on his record because he actually DID things. Worst, he doesn't believe the corporation should win in all circumstances, and that is a must for any candidate because ALL candidates, D or R, are pre-approved by corporations because of our out-of-control, free for all campaign financing.
You want someone good in government? You are not going to get anyone good in the government when they have to look like someone from a University’s stock photography collection. You aren't going to get a good person who hasn't smoked dope or maybe hasn't had a depressive episode or two. You need someone who has worked in some clothes other than suit or a business dress. You need someone real. And this is NOT happening in the US right now.
Many people understand how it works. What I want to know is how it will be fixed.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
I agree, pretty much. I think she'll get backers that keep her relevant because the money understands there's an advantage to having a woman in the primary who can take shots at Hillary without getting slammed as sexist. I doubt she'll get on the ticket as VP, and I doubt she's vying for that role.
I also agree Walker looks like the front runner. He's still developing, but he starts from a very strong position. If he can avoid any major flubs that the media can run with, he has a real shot.
First she drives me out of my career and now she wants drive me out of my country.
Many people understand how it works. What I want to know is how it will be fixed.
The economy already is fixed. That's the problem.
Or for that matter, anyone who manages to become the CEO of a major company like HP. You gotta have ego to get there, and after that, by our social standards, the person IS better than most people so to many the self image is justified. Well, unless one is a woman, then 'she has a big ego!'
Carly "The Ego" Fiorina.
Her ego covers a land mass the size of Maine.
They had a short piece on her this morning on NPR. She was attacking Hilary Clinton on not having enough experience in leadership, etc. I found it quite amusing. Like or hate Hilary, she has way more government experience (for better or worse) in her little pinky than Carly Fiorina.
[L]ike or hate Hilary, she has way more government experience (for better or worse) in her little pinky than Carly Fiorina.
That's not Fiorina's target demographic. In fact, they're the polar opposite. While Clinton has experience, it's all government experience (most of which is as a first lady). No doubt Fiorina will talk about how "government is broken" as her platform. It will take a "business leader" willing to make the "hard decisions" to make government "work for the people."
All B.S. Bernie Sanders 2016!
It's funny how socialism has such a bad reputation in 'merica. It's automatically equated to "evil" Commmunism.
Of the top 10 most prosperous countries, half are socialist countries. Norway, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, and Netherlands. Of the top 10 most happiest countries, the majority are socialist countries.
It's funny how much happier people are when they don't have worry about things such as primary and university education, housing, health care, insurance, transportation, etc. It's also interesting how that correlates to a more productive society, making the country in general more prosperous.
Denmark often ranks in the top 5 year after year on both lists. While they have a 60% income tax, the people still manage to have more money in their pocket than the typical American. Why? The costs of their necessities are ridiculously low because it's distributed amongst the entire population. Their net income is higher than a typical American who has to eat the high costs of living (for the typical American, almost 50% of your income goes immediately into housing [rent, mortgage, etc.], then tack on health insurance, car insurance, loan debt, etc.) While Americans are racking up quarter million dollar debts just to go to school, Danes get paid to get a Master's Degree at University. Or rather, they're getting their collective investment returned to them when they go to school.
ACA is a good step forward. If everyone pays for health insurance, the costs will come down. You'd think fiscal conservatives would be all over that. Well, they were when Romney did it, but then suddenly were against it "just because."
Carly has a specific role for the Republicans. Her job is to go after Hillary Clinton. If any of the male Republican candidates went after Hillary they would be accused of being "sexist" or some other form of "ist". Carly can get away with it because she is a woman. Sadly this is the world we live in.
Fiorina is the official attack dog for the Presidential campaign. It matters not whether she makes it through the Republican primary. If she succeeds in weakening Clinton then her job is done.
If Fiorina plays this right she might end up as the Vice Presidential nominee paired with whomever ends up winning the Republican nomination. These days, the VP ends up playing attack dog in the Presidential campaigns. The President is seen as being above the fray while his surrogates dish out all the dirty politics. Nobody will care about her failed HP ventures as a VP nominee. They will only see that she is a woman on the ticket and the Republicans will get points for that.
The 'muh sexism!' cry is unnecessary, especially in this case. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison(!!), and others have also (credibly) been accused of having monster-sized egos...
Seriously, when it comes to big egos, Scott McNealy (dude who used to run Sun Microsystems) had an ego large enough to carry it's own gravitational pull.
You can be a CEO without having an ego large enough to require its own zip code... tons of examples out there (even deep within the Fortune 500), but you don't hear about them as much because they tend to focus on their work, not their public image.
Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
She's also always wrong.
This is the key issue. Some of the other candidates have demonstrated competence in executive management, and others have a legislative record, but it is unclear if they have the skill and talent to make a good president. What sets Carly apart is an unambiguous record of failure and incompetence in everything she has ever done.
Actually, if you were of voting age during the 1992 Presidential elections, you might remember that Bill Clinton was open that he would be working very closely with his wife on the matter. That might have been overshadowed by the spectacle of Ross Perot being a general-purpose sideshow, but it definitely did come up at campaign events and the like.
With regard to scandal or the lack thereof, the closest thing the Obama administration in general has had to one is probably the standard of care for veterans and specifically at Walter Reed. Benghazi has just been an ongoing conservative circle jerk and the Snowden disclosures have really just highlighted the overreach available LEGALLY to the administration.
You might say that the State Department under Obama has allowed relations with Israel to sour in favor of greater ties to other states in the region, but it might also be said that Israel is a big-boy country now that doesn't need the USA to enforce its will. Putin's expansionist aims been an ongoing issue since before Obama took office and the case can certainly be made that the US did not need to intervene on the ground in Iran, Libya or Syria in spite of whatever amount of sabre-rattling conservatives have wanted to do to the contrary.
Bearing that in mind, where do you see scandal in the Obama administration or more specifically in its foreign policy?
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The country is 18 trillion dollars in debt.
And yet investors all over the world are falling over themselves to loan money to Uncle Sam at virtually zero percent interest. If the size of the deficit were considered a big problem by serious money, interest rates would be very much higher than they are.
That said, it's been a long time (Eisenhower, maybe?) since having Republicans in the White House has been good for deficit reduction!
"I'm going to add -Gate/-gate to everything. I am adept at moving goal posts from things like 'had more experience than X' when refuted to 'makes one fully qualified for president'.
Also I cannot use the quote function properly. I'm helping!"
Once upon a time HP was known as a technology innovator, in the years that Carly was in charge they became a maker of ink jet cartridges
When they bought Compaq they had managed to roll up two of the mini and personal computing powerhouses (DEC had just been taken over by Compaq) and effectively shit-canned the technology that came with them and just leveraged the customer base. Compaq computers went from being leading edge innovators to clones and DEC ALPHA chips were intentionally slow-sold in favor of Itanium (they even refused to release Alpha benchmarks because they beat the tar out of HP Itanium Superdome systems)
So, there was a lot of MBA talk and attempts to score big in quarterly reports that effectively took the heart of of a tech leader (or really leaders) and stomped it to death in front of a horrified tech community
That is why Carly is so beloved in /.
If you want successful government, never elect anyone who claims that government can never succeed.
So, there was a lot of MBA talk and attempts to score big in quarterly reports
And this is the crux of the matter, the focus of scoring big in quarterly reports. This is not hand-waving, purely ideological complaints. When MBA professors mentions *this* as the biggest problem in American corporate culture (can your sense of irony for a second), then this is not idle shit talking.
Business executives are graded per their deliveries at the next immediate quarter, not in their capacity to create long-term value. That is what a shareholder's economy is all about. And Fiorina is a great example of it.
Voting "present" if I recall was his biggest achievement in those years. Having no real accomplishments other than being elected is outstanding political work these days. It also is working for Hilary.
Your penchant for posting factually untrue things is Palinesque. Obama's "present" votes represent 3% of his voting record.
Of course, a lifetime of scandal should be enough to prevent her from running. At this point the DNC can't complain about anyone the GOP having "Scandals"
Do I believe Hillary or Bill are the most trustworthy people? No. You, however, are willing to believe anything to justify your opinion. Even things that are not true.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
She was also a U.S. Senator for New York for eight years (i.e. Elected twice). But of course, that was also a job that she only got for being Bill Clinton's wife and not because she holds a law degree from Yale University, not because she was a professor of Law at the University of Arkansas, not because she was she was on the congressional legal advisory staff in the Watergate impeachment process, and not because she played an important role in organizing the Carter presidential campaign. Facts.
Facts are never important when we look for reasons to hate ;)