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Led By Zuckerberg, Billionaires Give $100M To Fund Private Elementary Schools

theodp writes: AltSchool, a 2-year-old software-fueled private elementary school initiative started by an ex-Googler, announced Monday a $100 million Series B round led by established VC firms and high-profile tech investors including Mark Zuckerberg, Laurene Powell Jobs, John Doerr, and Pierre Omidyar. AltSchool uses proprietary software that provides students with a personalized playlist lesson that teachers can keep close tabs on. Currently, a few hundred students in four Bay Area classrooms use AltSchool tech. Three more California classrooms, plus one in Brooklyn, are expected to come online this fall, plus one in Brooklyn. "We believe that every child should have access to an exceptional, personalized education that enables them to be happy and successful in an ever-changing world," reads AltSchool's mission statement. For $28,750-a-year, your kid can be one of them right now. Eventually, the plan is for the billionaire-bankrolled education magic to trickle down. AltSchool's pitch to investors, according to NPR, is that one day, charter schools or even regular public schools could outsource many basic functions to its software platform.

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  1. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Insightful

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  2. trickle down economics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fuck trickle down economics. Schools should be mandatory. Schools should be funded equally. And if rich fuckers want a better education for their kids, key them improve the whole system.

    This is a great way of creating a caste system like what already happens on the east coast if you didn't go to some fancy prep school.

    As much as I hate government, this is a good place to apply heavy regulation, at least in terms of funding and talent disparities.

    1. Re:trickle down economics by righteousness · · Score: 2

      I agree with your sentiments, and it's unfortunate that you chose to comment as AC. I mean, it's generally accepted as wrong to discriminate education based on race, or gender, or religion. But why is it okay to discriminate education based on wealth? Every child should have the same opportunity to education. No child should be have the privilege of better education just because he or she happen to be born to rich parents.

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    2. Re:trickle down economics by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I would argue that if this is a philantropic 'giving' deal, instead of simply 'giving $100M' they should open up the whole software package. Why is the software this AltSchool uses proprietary? It doesn't sound like 'giving $100M' it sounds like a seed capital investment. You know that with the Zuck involved there's a scheme to monetize the thing if it takes off.

      Facebook tracking of all school children from the age they enter pre-school? Priceless!

    3. Re:trickle down economics by benjfowler · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But clearly, funding local schools from property taxes is a terrible idea. When rich people flee an area and leaves poor and disadvantaged (usually non-whites) behind, they get screwed twice: falling economic activity, and then falling funding for decent schools.

      Bad schools breed disadvantage. You make it worse by turning schools into "gated communities" (e.g. charter, private schools), and consign everyone else to dropout factories.

      A good way to buy social peace, would be to find a better way to fund state schools.

    4. Re: trickle down economics by kenh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Fuck trickle down economics. Schools should be mandatory.

      They are - education is mandatory in every state of the Union.

      Schools should be funded equally.

      Are you serious? If that were implemented inner-city schools would see funding slashed... In my previous home state of New Jersey there were these failing districts referred to as 'Abbott Districts' (after a court case) which resulted in spending in those failing districts to increase to almost double what the average NJ school district spent per-child. Equalizing spending across all schools would hurt the students in inner-city schools. (The schools in the city of Baltimore, where Democrats insist an increased investment in education (among other initiatives) could prevent tragedies like the death of Freddy Grey - which sounds great, until you realize that in Maryland, home to some of the wealthyest counties in country, the Baltimore city school system is the third highest-spending district per student n Maryland.)

      And if rich fuckers want a better education for their kids, key them improve the whole system.

      Do you understand what 'rich fuckers' do now? They pay property taxes at an obscene rate to fund their local public schools and then leave the public school system to privately fund their children's education elsewhere, leaving more money in the school system for the other students.

      If a 'rich fucker' lives in a house that is valued at twice the average value in their community, then they pay twice the property taxes to help fund public schools their 'average' neighbor pays. (There are no deductions or loopholes.) If that 'rich fucker' then turns around and enrolls their child in a private school they are 100% responsible for the tuition costs and get NO deduction or credit on their property taxes.

      The real motivation for change/improvement in public education will be school choice/vouchers - that will allow concerned parents to abandon failing public schools for better ones, and as failing schools are shuttered bad teachers can be weeded out of the system. Competition is healthy, the lack of serious competition is (contributing to) our currently failing public education system.

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    5. Re:trickle down economics by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not only this but most of the "students falling behind" that you hear about turns out to be about poverty, not about teachers or schools failing the kids. If a child lives in poverty, they are worried about when they'll eat next, are afraid that today might be the day they lose their home, might be scared for their safety in their neighborhood, etc. All of those worries/concerns/fears make it hard to focus on what your teacher is trying to teach you. It also makes it seem irrelevant. If your big concern is whether you'll get to eat dinner tonight or whether this will be the fifth night in a row that you go to bed hungry, figuring out the area of a circle can seem completely useless. Yes, learning pays off long-term, but there are big short-term concerns that drown that out.

      Unfortunately, a lot of rich politicians/businessmen who have never had these worries/concerns like to place all of the blame on public schools and public school teachers and then lobby to pull more money from them to fund other schools for them to send their kids to. Meanwhile, the poor kids do even worse, but at least the rich folks have a nice scapegoat.

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    6. Re:trickle down economics by Needs2BeSaid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "As much as I hate government" and "Schools should be mandatory" ... one of these is a lie.

      You do not hate government, you see government as an enforcer of your beliefs, as a powerful ally. The sad part is that you don't seem to recognize just how corrupt our government is on every level. Any government "forced" system will be riddled with cheaters and thieves. The rich will find a way to benefit and there is nothing you can do about it.

      Using the government as a hammer will only hurt the middle and lower classes.

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    7. Re:trickle down economics by LWATCDR · · Score: 2

      Really?
      So you are saying the local PTA that raises funds for a school should be forced to pay it all to a national fund?
      So for example my school had no AC so my mother worked to raise enough money to put in AC at my elementary school. So she should have just dumped the money to some national system?

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    8. Re: trickle down economics by saleenS281 · · Score: 2

      If a 'rich fucker' lives in a house that is valued at twice the average value in their community, then they pay twice the property taxes to help fund public schools their 'average' neighbor pays. (There are no deductions or loopholes.) If that 'rich fucker' then turns around and enrolls their child in a private school they are 100% responsible for the tuition costs and get NO deduction or credit on their property taxes.

      That depends ENTIRELY on the state. There are plenty of states that give the parents vouchers to send their kids to that private school. So no, they aren't 100% responsible for the tuition costs, and they do get a "deduction" or whatever you want to label it, in the form of a voucher.

      The real motivation for change/improvement in public education will be school choice/vouchers - that will allow concerned parents to abandon failing public schools for better ones, and as failing schools are shuttered bad teachers can be weeded out of the system. Competition is healthy, the lack of serious competition is (contributing to) our currently failing public education system.

      No, shitty parents are why our schools are failing. There's absolutely nothing a school can do to cope with parents who don't discipline their children, or make any attempt to help them with their homework. There are only so many hours in the day, and at some point a parent needs to be a parent. When all those "failing public schools" close down, and the state mandates private schools not turn children away, the same shitty parents with the same shitty kids will cause the same shitty problems in the private schools. You're delusional if you think otherwise. Unless of course you're advocating that private schools should be allowed to deny students access to an education after all of the public schools have shutdown. In which case you and your elitest worldview can pound fucking sand. When the poor revolt don't expect anyone to rise up and defend you.

  3. Re:Trickle Down? by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Different meaning of the word 'trickle down.' It's like a new technology......electric cars were primarily available to rich Tesla drivers, but the 'technology' is 'trickling down' as it becomes cheaper. Same thing happened with microwaves and plenty of other technologies.

    You could have figured this out, but he's saying that if their school is successful, other schools will start using it.

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  4. lots and lots of money by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If it costs $26k per student, why do they need $100M in funding? What are they doing with all that money?

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    1. Re:lots and lots of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The $100M in funding is to develop software that can replace teachers.

      The $26k is because you can't replace teachers with software.

      Next question?

    2. Re:lots and lots of money by stephanruby · · Score: 2

      If it costs $26k per student, why do they need $100M in funding? What are they doing with all that money?

      It's for a for-profit venture that develops proprietary materials.

      In other words, that $100M is designed to make its own little children and eventually turn into $10 billion dollars.

      But fear not, there is probably a form of financial assistance for Facebook employees.

    3. Re:lots and lots of money by T.E.D. · · Score: 2

      The $100M in funding is to develop software that can replace teachers.

      The $26k is because you can't replace teachers with software.

      Even that is a bit on the ridiculous side. The national average for public schools is a bit under $12K of spending per student. My state thinks even that is too much, and only spends about $9K. Either the public schools could be a lot better too with that kind of money, or the private schools are just wasting most of their money. Either way, throwing even more money at those private schools seems a criminal waste.

  5. Educational software by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Given the quality of educational software I've seen, if they are depending on software to teach kids, I can't imagine this being a success.

    As in, I've never seen any educational software that is good, and it only gets worse as the scope increases.

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  7. The beginning of the headline is a tad misleading by stephanruby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The beginning of the headline is a tad misleading

    Led By Zuckerberg, Billionaires Give $100M To Fund Private Elementary Schools

    Would the same wording have been used in this instance.

    Led By Zuckerberg, Billionaires Give $100M To Fund Uber

    No, right? This isn't a gift. It's an investment. Also, the fund is going to a single company called AltSchool.

  8. Re:Trickle Down? by phantomfive · · Score: 2

    but I'm not sure a school system that works in downtown San Francisco will have the same needs as one in, say, downtown Detroit.

    Then at least we'll have one that works in downtown San Francisco.

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  9. Re:LV88H by phantomfive · · Score: 2

    No one deleted your comment, it got modded down because your question wasn't very interesting (or even relevant, really).

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  10. Facebook could help shools more.... by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 2

    Facebook could help schools far, far more by enforcing their minimum age requirements of 13. I'm seeing far younger kids sucked into their computers by the Facebook chat, and refusing to go outside or explore knowledge outside their own little clique of online "likes".

    1. Re:Facebook could help shools more.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's a curious middle-class conceit that people who work in jobs think they know everything there is to know about the socio-political situation around their industry. Teachers commenting on education policy is no more interesting per se than policemen commenting on laws. And you're not even a regular policeman, you're a rich well-paid policeman who looks after a small gated community that is law-abiding, and your solution to crime is basically that everyone should be rich like these guys then there wouldn't be a problem.

    2. Re:Facebook could help shools more.... by jjhues7676 · · Score: 2

      How do you expect kids to go outside? Parents in North Carolina had the cops called on them because their kids were at the park without supervision.

  11. I know a better headline I'd like to see ... by Qbertino · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know a better headline I'd like to see: "New fair taxes enable feasible education budget. Donations not neccesary anymore." How about that, hu? ... Just saying sometimes I'm glad I live in Germany (allthough taxation could use a redo here aswell).

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  12. Re:scumbags by jblues · · Score: 2

    How about paying taxes and not lobbying the country to shreds? Maybe then we could all have schools.

    Prosperity *is* pizza you fucks.

    I went to a state-run school for the criminally gifted. I can't help but think if it was a private school I might've ended up somewhere like Goldman Sachs.

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  13. Isn't that what taxation is for? by Oxygen99 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or, y'know, they could just pay an appropriate level of income tax and let educational professionals decide how best to invest that money. Of course that wouldn't boost their collective ego nearly so much. Still. Once you've made enough money from stock market bubbles to reduce social responsibility to charity who are we to argue?

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  14. Re:The beginning of the headline is a tad misleadi by JeffOwl · · Score: 3, Informative

    I think it is pretty clear. If there is any doubt all you have to do is read Zuckerberg and you should know this isn't altruistic. After eliminating many of the teachers he'll use this to classify the rest as "Tech Workers" and replace them with H1Bs. If any doubt,remained the first sentence in the summary says "...announced Monday a $100 million Series B round led by established VC firms and high-profile tech investors..."

  15. mold young minds via an elite-centric curriculum by rightwingLeftist · · Score: 2

    for many decades the plutocrats and big corporations have been shaping the culture by getting to young and impressionable minds via the educational curriculum. Plutocrats&corporations give money to large nonprofit foundations --> foundations pay activists/writers/academics to generate propaganda that serves the needs of the plutocrats and corporations---> this propaganda winds up in the educational curriculum --> young minds are shaped for life in ways that favor the interests of the plutocrats and corporations. For example, the plutocrats and corporations want more money. So they get it by depressing wages by increasing the supply of labor. How? Multiculturalism combined with mass immigration increases the labor supply. How? By making white people feel guilty about racism. How? By creating an educational curriculum that did just that. See Dr Roelofs' book FOUNDATIONS AND PUBLIC POLICY: THE MASK OF PLURALISM. So, what zuck is doing here is just what the rich and powerful have been doing for many decades--using money to domesticate the culture and the people.

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  16. Re:Trickle Down? by MPBoulton · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And who wouldn't trust that billionaires have the same objectives as a publically elected government when it comes to educating our children?

  17. Re: Trickle Down? by benjfowler · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Quite possibly the easiest way to do that would be to adopt China's approach of selectively implementing trade barriers in the name of domestic self-interest. Everything made of cloth or plastic should get a 200% tariff on it; and those barriers should only be relaxed when we've 'drained the swamp' at home.

    This, and cutting all passive welfare to the able-bodied.

    At the end of the day, not everyone is smart enough to go to college. Thick people need jobs, money and dignity too.

    Unfortunately, this is anathema to our naive neoliberal overlords, whose world-view never went beyond Econ 101.

  18. for anyone who doesn't see anything wrong here: by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Insightful

    the ideal is a meritocracy- if you work hard, you're rich. if you don't work, you're poor

    that's the ideal

    of course reality means we have rich kids who don't do shit and can't fail, or whose dad gets them a cushy do nothing job with his friends at the golf club

    it also means there are poor people who are busting their asses at two full time jobs who will never get ahead, barely tread water, and are one accident or medical problem away from losing everything, due to depressed wages because of power imbalances, and an insane healthcare system. and poor people on assistance who don't work simply because the financial incentive is to stay not working: it pays more

    so we do not live in a meritocracy

    we should, of course. and we should try to model our society on that ideal

    and one way we do that is we guarantee a baseline of medical care and education to everyone

    but if being poor means your education will be pathetic, you'll stay poor. and if you're rich and are a loser flunkie who never tries in school but still gets ahead due to connections

    we WANT to subsidize poor people's healthcare and education, so we can actually and honestly say "you're poor because you don't try." we can't say that with honesty today. if we don't actually have everyone STARTING on level ground. the ideal of meritocracy requires everyone to start at roughly the same spot. then, indeed, you can criticize people for being poor, and laud people for being rich. rather than our increasing classist reality in the usa of a shirnking middle class, a rich kid who cannot fail and does nothing, and a poor person who cannot succeed and works his ass off

    in fact, the usa is not the world leader in social mobility, the ability of the poor to get ahead by hard work

    that title goes to "gasp" nordic countries, evil "socialist" countries, where people are happier and richer than "capitalist" america, which really isn't capitalist in the meritocratic sense, but more like plutocratic rent-seeking, social darwinistic fuck-you-i-got-mine-die-in-the-street america

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  19. Re: Trickle Down? by kenh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Many argue that public schools are failing our children, but few agree on the cause, so standardized tests have been rolled out to evaluate and quantify the various levels of achievement in the various school systems at both the state and federal level.

    That in and of itself isn't really a problem, the problem (IMHO) with standardized testing is that it has become the only way to evaluate career teachers since the teachers and their union groups have typically rejected every other form of teacher evaluation.

    For example, in one famous example a new superintendent walked into a major metropolitan school system and was confronted with the reality that some 60% of high school graduates failed to perform at an 8th grade level, yet some 90% of the teachers had peer-evaluated each other to be 'Excellent' teachers.

    The issue isn't standardized testing, it is the importance the test results have to the teachers that causes great stress in the children.

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  20. Re: Trickle Down? by allcoolnameswheretak · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yeah, tricke down is working so well that the income inequality between rich and poor is getting wider and wider each generation.

  21. You are not likely to make the cut to top 1% by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2
    Let us say there is this H Ardworker who does everything right and starts her career at the 99th percentile of entry level professional job, anything lawyer, dentist, accountant, any good job that would put her at cusp of 99th percentile. Stays there all through her career, at the cut-off of 99th percentile. Still she would NOT not save enough to be in the top 1% by networth. It was possible to reach that 1% by net worth till about year 2000. Again that was because of savings done at the very early stage of the career and investments. Starting 2000, your surgeons, lawyers, sales executives, CPAs are no longer making it to top 1% by the time they retire. Citation provided.

    But let us say H Ardworker has a classmate in college, R Ichkid, a trust fund baby, who inherits enough to make it to top 1% by net worth. Let R Ichkid draw from the inheritance the same salary H Ardwoker earned, without contributing anything more. Just simply live off the trust fund. R Ichkid would still be in the top 1% by networth, or become even richer. Most trust fund babies do not limit themselves to just the top 1% salary and run down their inheritance and fall off. So the ranking of R Ichkid is likely to improve.

    The changes to the tax code done starting from the 1980s is the root cause. The lower capital gains tax rate, higher rates for earned income, the ability to defer income by making it capital gains, etc allows people already rich to stay there without doing much. It has been made impossible for the unwashed masses and people who have to work for a living to join the Rich class by earned income alone. Extremely lucky few who make it to the upper management with stock options, or hit venture capital jackpot, or been extremely lucky to win lottery or hit a lucky home run in investment ... only they are able to join the 1% by net worth club.

    Most slashdotters will not make it. It is not a matter of how hard your work, or how smart you are or both. We are back in the 19th century England. Rich families will be rich. Professionals will make the next rung but not be rich. Then unwashed masses below.

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    1. Re:You are not likely to make the cut to top 1% by danbob999 · · Score: 2

      I know. I just find it ironic to see people ranting against the top 1% (of their country) while they are themselves in the top 1% of the world. Especially since the same arguments can be used to rant against both of these groups. It's only a matter of perspective.
      That being said, I am pretty sure a surgeon can save 5M$ through his lifetime in the US. But then again it depends how much he spends.

  22. Re: Trickle Down? by BVis · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What exactly constitutes "passive welfare"? Since welfare was reformed under that reactionary libertarian President Clinton, everyone that receives cash assistance is required to either work or attend job training 30 hours a week, or lose their benefits. Which is awesome on paper if you want to fix the "problem" of welfare queens (which have not been proven to exist in significant numbers), but in reality it creates more problems, one of which is what to do with your kids while you're working or going to job training. Not everyone has a spouse or family that can watch the kids while you're off at your dead-end McJob making minimum wage.

    Everyone who is able-bodied should work, in an ideal situation. In the real world, you can't always get a job when you need one, and if you have to pay for day care, sometimes having a job means you have LESS money to work with than if you were sitting at home on the couch like everyone on the right thinks welfare recipients do. Lots of people think the poor should be punished for being so, so the situation continues. There's a school of thought that providing cash benefits perpetuates a cycle of poverty, that it encourages dependence instead of personal responsibility. The truth is that most people on cash assistance are trying desperately to get a job so they can stop collecting benefits, and forcing an arbitrary work requirement on them does nothing more than 1) make the situation worse for the recipients and their children, and 2) provide Big Biz with a captive audience of low-wage workers who can't quit when you treat them like dogshit. When you factor in the low wages, lack of access to health insurance (as even under the ACA a lot of people have to make a sizable payment each month for even the lowest level of coverage), and cultural stigma (which, ironically, makes it HARDER to get a job due to the perception of welfare recipients being goldbricking leeches), welfare DOES make people dependent by perpetuating the vicious cycle of trapping low-wage workers in their jobs, not because they're lazy. The solution is not to end welfare, but to increase wages enough to shift the burden from public assistance to private wages. This is one reason why people want the minimum wage increased; a living wage gets people off welfare. But, since that eats into the profits (which are still at record highs), Big Biz just instructs their wholly owned "elected" representatives to perpetuate the myth of the lazy welfare recipient who leeches off taxpayers' hard work. After all, it's much better for the CEO to buy his third summer home with his six-figure bonus for keeping salaries low than for the workers at his business who do actual work to have enough money to live on.

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  23. Re:Government should be run like a venture cap fir by Catbeller · · Score: 2

    Government is not a business, cannot be run like a business, and has different goals than a business.

    Government RUNS business. Corporations are government critters - they are circumscribed and defined by nothing else but laws. Corporations are our toys.

    Government is/was run by academics, who are interested in good governance, rather than getting rich. Lying is considered bad form in academica, and leads to bad results. That's why science works; fibbers get weeded out, rather than kicking out the people who annoy the powerful, or eliminating those who don't make money for the powerful.

    Business is run by self-involved, well, thieves is a good word - well-regulated thieves and liars. They admit no principle but the Win. They have no morals, no conscience, and no limits. They are in it for the sheer joy of kicking the ass of people who get in their way. They are absolutely lousy at compromise and when installed in any capacity in interacting with other countries, go into full guns-and-bribery mode. Look at what the W. admin did to us and Iraq for that yummy oil. And they did it on our credit card, and let laughing.

    Government for the Corporations, by the Corporations, will be hell on Earth, a permanent feudal power structure that will be damned unkillable. It is the ultimate nullification of the age of enlightenment, the death of science as we know it, and makes fascism look like a kid playing with toy soldiers.

  24. Re: Trickle Down? by Catbeller · · Score: 2

    Welfare cut to the able bodied happened a quarter century ago. Two years max is all you get. You can't cut much more. It simply is not a factor in school failure; poverty is, race is, the flight to the suburbs is. The failure is schools in California was due to Proposition 13, btw, the tax freeze. California had the finest schools in the country before prop 13. Almost free universities, too. They were tax-cut to death. It would do well to remember that. This is a long game to basically kill control over corporate power.

  25. Re: Trickle Down? by rgbscan · · Score: 2

    Well, that depends on what you call "able bodied". Let me give you an example. I know a guy who's 36. In the prime of his life. He's got Bi-Polar disorder. It's a real thing, and he has real symptoms. If he goes unmedicated, about twice a year he'll go all "Charlie Sheen" on us and get a little crazy, sometimes even suicidal.

    So he needs meds. When he's on meds he's a completely normal dude who goes years without a bi-polar episode. He found himself out of work and applied for SSDI. After all, when he's off his meds he truly is disabled and can't live a normal life. Being on meds though, makes him a completely normal guy who is able bodied and more than able to hold down a job.

    So SSDI approved him as disabled, so he could get his meds for free from the government - which he needs. So now he's on meds and completely normal. But if he gets a job, he loses his disability qualification and loses his meds. So instead, he gets a SSDI check every month, gets a govenrment provided phone, got free furniture from a non-profit, gets public housing, gets SNAP, and gets state cash assistance. He basically lives the life of a college kid playing xbox and drinking beer all day in his apartment on the taxpayers dime. He's in a catch 22, if he works he may or may not find a job that covers his expensive medication. If he doesn't have meds he's a crazy threat to himself. But if he stays "disabled" he gets free meds and free everything. It's not a life of luxury, but it's a lot like living the college life in perpetuity. And he's going to get this free ride the rest of his life. He retired from the workforce at age 32! Perfectly able bodied when on his meds, but the system isn't setup for this situation, so us taxpayers get to support him. It's pretty messed up.