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Recent Paper Shows Fracking Chemicals In Drinking Water, Industry Attacks It

eldavojohn writes: A recent paper published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences turned up 2-Butoxyethanol from samples collected from three households in Pennsylvania. The paper's level headed conclusion is that more conservative well construction techniques should be used to avoid this in the future and that flowback should be better controlled. Rob Jackson, another scientist who reviewed the paper, stressed that the findings were an exception to normal operations. Despite that, the results angered the PR gods of the Marcellus Shale Gas industry and awoke beltway insider mouthpieces to attack the research — after all, what are they paying them for?

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  1. Lives be damned by ArcadeMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Profits above all else.

    Hu-mans have turned into Ferengi.

    1. Re:Lives be damned by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You would have thought the Ferengi would have cottoned on to the fact that clothing their women would open a whole new avenue of profit by selling them rags and trinkets at thousands of times the cost just because they had a fancy label or some monogrammed initials.

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    2. Re:Lives be damned by mellon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually I would blame the regulator, and the regulations, and the congresscritters who voted for there not to be any. By the time the product reaches the final point of sale, we are powerless to discriminate between ethically-extracted and unethically-extracted fuels. The only way to get companies to behave ethically is to require that they behave ethically. This isn't because the people who run them are unethical bastards (maybe they are, maybe they aren't). It's because it's a commodity, and no producer can afford to do anything that costs more than what any other producer is doing, no matter how good their intentions.

      To move the higher-priced ethically pure stuff to the customer the ethical producer would have to control the entire distribution chain, all the way to the customer. That's not as practical as it might sound. The major market for natural gas is in gas-fired generation, and those buyers then wholesale the electricity to the grid, and then we purchase it from our power company. So we are two or three steps removed from where we could vote with our wallet. We have no power to affect this market.

      We customers of the grid are actually, a lot of us, paying a premium for clean power, but that power isn't coming from burning natural gas, because natural gas is not a clean source of power. So while we can reduce the total demand for natural gas, and we have, we aren't affecting the functioning of the natural gas market.

      Because it's a commodity market, because producers really don't have any choice, the only way to make it possible for them to behave ethically is through regulation. Regulation prevents the race to the bottom: prevents the producers who would prefer to behave ethically from being forced to behave unethically in order to keep their prices at the same level as the producers who don't mind behaving unethically. This idea of just letting the market take care of it, and blaming the customer when they don't make choices they can't make, is futile and absurd.

  2. hmmmm by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One of the authors thinks the problem may have been due to a leak at a storage tank on the surface. Emphasis on the "may".

    Plus there's the concentration issue - parts per trillion doesn't make for much of a problem in any case. Even the authors didn't make this out to be a health problem....

    Of course, I could be mistaken, and the companies involved could be part of a massive conspiracy to slaughter Pennsylvanians by the millions.

    Yeah, on second thought, I'll have to go with the conspiracy thing. After all, everyone knows that even one part per trillion is too much, and the spill at the storage tank was probably just meant to cover up the deliberate poisoning of the water supply in three counties in rural PA....

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    1. Re:hmmmm by thedonger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Shame on you, you bad man. I don't know if fracking is actually good or bad*, but I do know that agreeing with fracking is bad.

      *Note: It doesn't seem like a good idea, but that is in no way based on hard science.

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    2. Re:hmmmm by dywolf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Malice doesn't need to be part of the motivation in order for harm to be done. Simple negligence suffices.

      The purpose of the report was only and simply to state "hey, we detected some of the stuff in the water supply". It's a first step, but an important one as the biggest refrain we hear from the fracking companies is "it wont get in the water supply", "it's too deep", "we're taking precautions", etc.

      this paper, while not alarmist itself, rather pointedly proves that the companies are wrong, knowingly or not.

      and since they are wrong, further study will be warranted. particularly into the effects their chemicals can have, since most of them haven't been tested (most industrial chemicals aren't required to be tested for human safety), and are even considered trade secrets and thus in many instances its not even known (to the public) what chemicals are even being used.

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  3. We've known about this for a decade now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    obviously nobodys going to do anything about it.

    The oil industry wont stop until they can sell us water for $3 a gallon.

  4. Re:Industry attacks it by ArcadeMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Water is a basic necessity of life. It's not a product.

    In other news, it's up to the fracking companies to protect themselves against nukes from orbit.

  5. Make them drink it ... by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think any PR person, CEO, and other mouthpiece who says this stuff is perfectly safe should be forced to drink it. Daily. For a year. Their family included.

    If the PR clowns are going to claim it's safe, put their money where there mouth is. If they refuse to drink it, assume they're lying and feed them to bears.

    Hold these guys to some standard of truth instead of their accustomed truthiness, and see what they do.

    I'm so tired of these "think tanks" who are nothing more than paid shills who spout this crap just to obfuscate the truth -- it's no different than the tobacco lobby did. It's slimy and dishonest, and should carry a huge penalty.

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    1. Re:Make them drink it ... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The chemical, which is also commonly used in paint and cosmetics, is known to have caused tumors in rodents, though scientists have not determined if those carcinogenic properties translate to humans.

      Those are some of my favorite weasel phrases in this type of article.

      "Just because the chemical strips paint and causes mammals to dissolve into puddles of toxic goo does not mean it's unsafe for humans."

      So drink up, Mr Koch.

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  6. Re:School me on well water by wile_e_wonka · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My understanding is that modern household water wells generally use reverse osmosis systems. Water quality from drinking wells varies widely depending on the location and quality of the well. But (1) they aren't 100% effective, nor can they be against unanticipated chemicals that weren't being pumped into the ground en masse at the time the well was designed, and (2) I shouldn't have to pay to upgrade my drinking water well filter to handle chemicals used in fracking. Fracking companies should be not contaminating my drinking water.

  7. Re:Industry attacks it by jythie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, that is the philosophical divide in the US. Are people responsible for the effects their actions have on others, or are they responsible for only the effect their actions have on themselves? That is the bridge people have trouble crossing when talking about responsibility between conservatives/libertarians and liberals. One believes your fate is in your own hands, you are singularly responsible for yourself, while the other believes that we bear responsibility for our actions on others. Oddly enough one tends to benefit the strong and the majority group, while the other takes from it.

  8. Re:School me on well water by johnnys · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem there is that when the well is contaminated, it's WAY too late to do anything. Even if the responsible company immediately stops fracking completely, the well will continue to provide polluted water until the aquifer gets cleaned out somehow. That may be anytime from years to millenia.

    I think it's more reasonable for the landowner to be able to force the fracking company to "fix what they broke" and to ensure the landowner has a supply of clean water equal to their current well production available to them for free until the well runs clean again. Or the frackers pay for all the land at pre-fracking market value.

    Yeah, I'm a dreamer.

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  9. Re:School me on well water by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My understanding is that modern household water wells generally use reverse osmosis systems.

    Your understanding is incorrect. There is no standard template for a modern household water well. Modern household water wells generally use one or more mesh filters in the pump house, and usually one big carbon filter inside the house, commonly followed by a water softener. There may be an RO filter involved for drinking water, but there often is not.

    Most people don't use RO because of the high amount of waste water. If you don't have a grey water system, that's just additional cycling your pump has to do for no benefit.

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  10. Simple Demand. by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The communities are just following the stupidity of the political view points.
    Can we frack in your community? Sure... However we want our water quality (including well water, checked once a month at your expense, for as long as the pumps are active and 10 years after. (This is relatively inexpensive demand). If there is a problem with water quality that has changed sense fracking. Then you need to supply us with clean water for 150 year or until the water quality returns.

    If your method is as safe and clean as you state, then you shouldn't have to worry about it.

       

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  11. Re:Industry attacks it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The two aren't mutually exclusive you know. In fact, the side you lambaste as liberals, and how VERY telling that you think it's a swear word, is actually MORE plugged in to the reality of who and what we are as a species than the supposedly conservative "every man exists in vacuum" view.

    We are social animals. We exist in groups. The erstwhile libertarian has his head so far up his ass he can see that burger he ate in 1983. And it's almost ALWAYS a he; we women, somehow, are mostly immune to this memetic plague. To ignore the realities of what we are our, evolutionary and social heritage, is to invite disaster, and behold, disaster has come; I give you 35 goddamn years of voodoonomics as exhibit A.

    The key is to make it so that the desires of the individual do not compromise the group's integrity, and that the actions of the group do not stifle individual freedom.