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NASA Will Award You $5,000 For Your Finest Mars City Idea

coondoggie writes with this snippet from Network World: NASA this week said it would look to the public for cool ideas on how to build a sustainable environment on Mars with the best plan earning as much as $5,000. With the Journey to Mars Challenge, NASA wants applicants to describe one or more Mars surface systems or capabilities and operations that are needed to set up and establish a technically achievable, economically sustainable human living space on the red planet. Think air, water, food, communications systems and the like.

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  1. "as much as" a whole $5K? by turkeydance · · Score: 2

    maybe a middle-schooler will win some.

  2. Simple by itzly · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Build the city on earth instead. Breathable atmosphere, easy resupply missions, plenty of water.

    1. Re:Simple by bobbied · · Score: 2

      Even easier... Change the name of an existing city to "Mars" and you are done...

      Oh yea, "I came home from Mars just last week.".. Or, "I'm going to Mars to live for the next 10 years."

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    2. Re:Simple by barc0001 · · Score: 2

      They were able to survive *some* of the huge impacts. There were a few, including the one that created the moon that would not be survivable by any digging. But it's not just impacts. There are a whole host of other disasters that could take out a one planet humanity.

  3. $5k??? Really, NASA? by mark-t · · Score: 2

    It occurs to me that a feasable plan for a sustainable mars colony is worth a *HECK* of a lot more than just $5K....

    Try increasing that by *AT LEAST* a couple of orders of magnitude.

    Offering only $5K for a practical idea that once successfully implemented is going to be quite frankly worth trillions of dollars is really undervaluing the significance of coming up with a workable plan in the first place.

  4. Surface? by Runaway1956 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My first idea is to dig in. Put the people underground, as much as possible. Put critical infrastructure underground as well. No matter how you build, or what you build with, surface structures are going to be vulnerable. Put greenhouses on the surface, put solar panels on the surface, put hazardous research and fabrication on the surface. Put the PEOPLE underground. Dig them in where they can sleep soundly, knowing that they are safe from piddling little things like storms, or meteors, or whatever.

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    1. Re:Surface? by quantaman · · Score: 2

      So you want to put the people underground where they'll be safe, and their source of food and fresh air (the greenhouses) where they're going to be, as you yourself say, vulnerable.

      The greenhouses need to be underground as well. So does the power generation, which means a fusion plant. Good thing they're only 20 years away, just like they were 20 years ago.

      You can put greenhouses above ground. Just make sure you have an underground failsafe and enough emergency reserves to make it through a disaster.

      Even then it's probably not feasible. Look how expensive it is to go underground on earth, now consider how tough it will be on Mars when you're walking around in spacesuits and have to transport heavy duty excavation and construction equipment from earth.

      More likely just put everything above ground and distributed. If an asteroid takes out a greenhouse or a house it's tragic, but it doesn't kill the colony.

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    2. Re:Surface? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

      We have natural caves on earth big enough to hold the great pyramid, so with the lighter gravity of mars, it would be expected to find even bigger caves. And then there are cave systems with hundreds of kilometers of passages.

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  5. Bio-Dome. by chris200x9 · · Score: 2

    Just watch Bio-Dome.

    1. Re:Bio-Dome. by cutecub · · Score: 2

      $5000 is not enough for me to watch Bio-Dome.

      -S

  6. Oh, I got this! by Rinikusu · · Score: 2

    First, we have to find the alien reactor...

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    1. Re:Oh, I got this! by ArcadeMan · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, first you have to get your ass to Mars.

  7. City? by Translation+Error · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What I want to know is where in the world the word 'city' came from in the article's title. There's nothing anywhere close to a city mentioned in the article itself, with the goal of the challenge being to 'establish a technically achievable, economically sustainable human living space'. I don't know about anyone else, but to me, that sounds like an outpost rather than anything like a city.

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  8. Easy ... by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Funny

    So, you put 10,000 lawyers and politicians into a hermetically sealed bag ... you launch that bag into space.

    Once you've done that, get back to me and I'll tell you the rest.

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  9. My plan -- I just saved NASA $6,666,000,000 by Spy+Handler · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "NASA is working on... the rocket expected to launch the [Mars] mission -- the Space Launch System"

    My plan:

    1. Kill the Senate Launch System and bury it in a landfill
    2. Fire everyone who thought it was a good idea
    3. Wait around a few years and play Kerbal Space Program
    4. Buy a ride on Falcon Heavy R and save a billion bucks per launch
    5. Now you can afford to haul more stuff to Mars for a city

    Thank you, I'll take the $5000 in cashier's check, Visa or Mastercard.... but definitely NOT American Express.

  10. Re:$5k??? Really, NASA? by sconeu · · Score: 2

    I never change lightbulbs because it's a hardware problem, and I'm a software guy.

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  11. Screw Mars! by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Build a floating city in the upper atmosphere of Venus.

  12. Use T-Mobile! by edawstwin · · Score: 2

    For communicating, just use T-Mobile. For the quality of the signal that I get, I can only imagine that Mars is where they place all of their towers.

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  13. Watchmen by magarity · · Score: 3, Funny

    My favorite structure on Mars is the giant clockwork thing in Watchmen. But I guess that doesn't quite meet the breathable air requirement.

  14. Re:$5k??? Really, NASA? by Chelloveck · · Score: 2

    It occurs to me that a feasable plan for a sustainable mars colony is worth a *HECK* of a lot more than just $5K....

    Don't worry, they're not actually looking for ideas. They have tons of ideas. They have people whose whole job is to come up with ideas. They have an army of very knowledgeable volunteers in groups like The Planetary Society who'd write detailed thousand-page treatises on solid waste recycling on Mars, in exchange for just knowing that the human race has an off-world outpost. They're not lacking for ideas.

    This contest is just a way to get people to start thinking about a serious effort to go to Mars, as opposed to the Mars One suicide fantasy mission. $15k worth of prizes is cheap advertising. And maybe, just maybe, if enough people start talking about going to Mars our eternally-opportunistic politicians will decide it's a safe bandwagon to jump on and cough up some real support.

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