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Dropbox Moves Accounts Outside North America To Ireland

Posted by timothy on from the which-is-technically-outside-of-north-america dept.

monkeyzoo writes: Similar to a previous announcement by Twitter, Dropbox has changed its Terms of Service for users outside of North America (USA/Canada/Mexico) such that services will now be provided out of Ireland. Will other companies follow this trend and leave the USA (and the jurisdiction of the NSA)? Note, the announcement states that North American users are not able to opt into the Irish Terms of Service.

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  1. That's not a security move by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They're after the double Irish with a Dutch Sandwich.

    It's about money. Not "our valued customer's security" or other bullshit.

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    1. Re:That's not a security move by Muros · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They're after the double Irish with a Dutch Sandwich.

      It's about money. Not "our valued customer's security" or other bullshit.

      They don't need servers here to funnel profits through the country, they can do that easily enough with dodgy licensing subsidiaries and some accounting sleight of hand in an office of 2 people.

    2. Re:That's not a security move by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's as much about PR as anything. Maybe it's actually about telling the NSA et al to piss off.

      But sooner or later, a nice government official will show up and say "now gimme".

      I'm no sure there really is a way to take data outside of jurisdictions now. Courts seem to think they aren't constrained in their decisions, any more ... and all the governments are trading the data.

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    3. Re:That's not a security move by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think you're right.

      at best, the data copying will happen on the sly and we will be 100% lied to about it.

      the world (everyone, this is about human nature) has a craving for spying. we love gossip and rumors and knowing the dirt on people. its a sad but true fact about human beings.

      given that, and given the fact that, once out of the bottle the genie is not going back - we now have to assume all data is being mined, stolen, taken, whatever word you want to use.

      politicians will say things. they will always lie about this.

      the only thing we can do is engage in the chilling effect and 'watch what we say and write'. which is NOT what the internet was supposed to be about!

      thanks government goons. you ruined one of mankind's BEST achievements in all of earth's history.

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    4. Re:That's not a security move by fustakrakich · · Score: 4, Insightful

      thanks government goons. you ruined one of mankind's BEST achievements in all of earth's history.

      Mankind's BEST achievement in all of earth's history are the washer and dryer (and maybe the horseless carriage), and mine work just fine, thanks. The internet is a giant billboard.

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    5. Re:That's not a security move by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Canada.

  2. False sense of security? by JustNiz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It seems clear from the way that Juilian Assange is being fucked over by the UK and Sweden on behalf of the US, that the US gov already has their hand far enough up the arse of significant western countries to make them their puppet.

    What makes anyone seriously think that Irish won't also just bend over for the NSA as readily?

  3. well... by zippo01 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is only news if you think the NSA still couldn't easily gain access....

  4. With Condie Rice on the board by spacepimp · · Score: 1, Insightful

    There is almost nothing to trust about the service.

  5. Re:not outside the jurisdiction of the NSA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This has nothing to do with the NSA (the NSA will get anything they want - legally or not, if you think otherwise you are pathetic).

    This has to do with the legal bounds of the American court. If the service provider is stationned outside America and has local TOS, then it is outside the jurisdiction of the court. You cannot demand information that can be used in American civil cases. The NSA information can not be used in those cases unless they can prove it is legally handed to them.