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Judge: Warrantless Airport Seizure of Laptop 'Cannot Be Justified'

SonicSpike writes with news of a ruling in U.S. District Court that the seizure and search of a man's laptop without a warrant while he was in an airport during an international border crossing was not justified. According to Judge Amy Jackson's ruling (PDF), the defendant was already the subject of an investigation when officials used his international flight as a pretext for rifling through his laptop. The government argued that a laptop was simply a "container," and thus subject to warrantless searches to protect the homeland. But the judge said the search "was supported by so little suspicion of ongoing or imminent criminal activity, and was so invasive of Kim's privacy and so disconnected from not only the considerations underlying the breadth of the government's authority to search at the border, but also the border itself, that it was unreasonable."

She also noted that laptop searches may require more stringent legal support, since they are capable of holding much more private information than a box or duffel bag. And while a routine search involves a quick look through a container, this search was quite different: "[T]he agents created an identical image of Kim's entire computer hard drive and gave themselves unlimited time to search the tens of thousands of documents, images, and emails it contained, using an extensive list of search terms, and with the assistance of two forensic software programs that organized, expedited, and facilitated the task."

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  1. Eh by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've never seen where lack of justification ever stopped the government.

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    1. Re:Eh by Sebby · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I've never seen where lack of justification ever stopped the government.

      Or due process...

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    2. Re:Eh by LessThanObvious · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They will continue to do as they please, the only consequence on their end is the admissibility of any evidence uncovered. It's not like they are likely to face any personal criminal or civil liability for the violation of the person's rights.

    3. Re:Eh by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But hey, lets keep voting for bigger and more government, and consolidate as much power at the top as possible because our guy is there! (Which works for both D and R )

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  2. More hoops before travelling through USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The moral of this story is:
    1) The TSA and assorted related three letter agencies don't give a crap about due process or warrants anyways
    2) If you're travelling through the USA (into, out of, or stoppover in), either don't bring any electronics at all, or only bring freshly wiped stuff with absolutely no personal data on them. Blob up your personal files into a passworded file somewhere on the 'net that you can download when you get where you're going, and don't carry the URL for it on your person.

    1. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 4, Informative

      The moral of this story is:
      1) The TSA and assorted related three letter agencies don't give a crap about due process or warrants anyways
      2) If you're travelling through the USA (into, out of, or stoppover in), either don't bring any electronics at all, or only bring freshly wiped stuff with absolutely no personal data on them. Blob up your personal files into a passworded file somewhere on the 'net that you can download when you get where you're going, and don't carry the URL for it on your person.

      3) Encrypt your hard drive, make sure to shut down before walking through security, and remember "I do not recollect" was good enough for Reagan.

    2. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 5, Interesting

      no, you miss the point. travel 'empty'. a plain fresh install with no URL history or anything on it. ie, you do a fresh build, you create a backup (that's your new image for any new travel) and you travel with a fresh install of linux (ideally not windows) and you remember, in your head, your passwords and key URLs.

      its very sad that its gotton to this. but this is probably the best way to protect yourself and arrive in one piece, unmolested.

      sadly, very few can even do this much. or are willing to do this before they travel.

      I don't believe encrypting a full disk is going to help you and may cause you to be detained (unfairly, but you are not in control, here, realize that). encryption keeps so-called bad guys out, but the real ones to worry about are 'your own people' (so to speak). they won't take no for an answer.

      better to travel with a blank install and keep all your login and history info in your head.

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    3. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by TWX · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It might not be a bad idea to take the computer to a few coffee shops to use their wifi to surf CNN and the BBC and other news websites first, or to at least do this in the originating airport on their wireless to demonstrate that the computer sees casual use. Make it too blank and there's new grounds for suspicion and again, they'll duplicate the disk and attempt to find any deleted files.

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    4. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by i.r.id10t · · Score: 2

      Or a lot of shock porn like the goatse guy, etc

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    5. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Informative

      The moral of this story is: 1) The TSA and assorted related three letter agencies don't give a crap about due process or warrants anyways

      The moral of your comment is you can't be bothered to read the fucking article. TSA has nothing to do with it. It's an investigation of a foreign national suspected of violating export laws regarding aerospace hardware with defense implications (accelerometers that can be used in missile guidance systems) to China. The search was carried out by a United States Special Agent, of the DHS Security Investigations Office, not TSA.

      The ruling is actually an interesting read, the long and short of which is that the Government had tons of probable cause. The owner of the laptop had even been arrested previously and given testimony regarding his activities. This reeks of laziness on the part of the Special Agents conducting the investigation; they had more than enough to get a conventional warrant but choose instead of rely on the border search exception. Something tells me they won't be repeating that mistake in the future.

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    6. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by TWX · · Score: 2

      I wouldn't do that either. Border entry guards have the power to deny entry to those considered to be undesirable, and given that the only way to get recourse is to have representation within the country that one has been denied access to, being branded as undesirable could get very expensive very quickly, even if such a label were overturned on challenge.

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    7. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by Shakrai · · Score: 3, Informative

      no, you miss the point. travel 'empty'. a plain fresh install with no URL history or anything on it. ie, you do a fresh build, you create a backup (that's your new image for any new travel) and you travel with a fresh install of linux (ideally not windows) and you remember, in your head, your passwords and key URLs.

      its very sad that its gotton to this. but this is probably the best way to protect yourself and arrive in one piece, unmolested.

      If you want to arrive unmolested you might try not taking part in an ongoing criminal conspiracy. Did you read the ruling or TFA? This was an ongoing investigation, where the owner of the laptop had previously been arrested; it was not a random "Let's take that dude's laptop." search. If the Special Agents involved had done their due diligence they could have easily obtained a warrant to seize the laptop rather than relying on the border search exception.

      I tend to agree with the ruling, the border search exception is flimsy cover to image someone's hard drive, but the multitude of uninformed comments here is bad even by /. standards. This was not a random search without basis or probable cause.

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    8. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by cdrudge · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Erase your hard drive with a multi-pass secure wiping program before restoring the fresh image on it. Yeah yeah yeah it may not be perfect and theoretically some magical device might be able to pick up variations in temporal magnetic quantum flux in adjacent bits and recover data blah blah blah. But if they go to that level to recover your data, you were fucked anyways.

      If they ask why it's such a fresh install, you just simply state that you access everything via VPN and you only travel with a fresh laptop in case it's lost, stolen, detained, confiscated, etc and you don't lose anything and everything on it while you're traveling.

    9. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by Shakrai · · Score: 4, Informative

      The lion's share of TSA employees are not "Agents." They are inaccurately labeled as "Officers" but in reality they do not possess law enforcement powers. They have no special powers (beyond that of a citizen's arrest) to arrest or detain you; that's what the uniformed law enforcement officer monitoring the checkpoint is there for.

      TSA does have a few Special Agents working for it that have such powers, as do all United States Special Agents, but they're focused on transportation security. The case being discussed here relates to export laws.

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    10. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by pla · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you want to arrive unmolested you might try not taking part in an ongoing criminal conspiracy.

      Unfortunately, I pay taxes in the US, thereby providing material support to a terrorist organization.

      Easy to say "just don't do it", not so easy to spend a few years in Club Fed for resisting the IRS' annual shake-down.

    11. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by Pi1grim · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >> If the Special Agents involved had done their due diligence they could have easily obtained a warrant to seize the laptop rather than relying on the border search exception.

      Well, if they could've, they would've. But it seems they didn't have substantial evidence to support a search warrant and they decided to get a sneak peek using border as an excuse. And yes, if it's not legal inside the US, then it's definitely without probable cause, at least legally speaking. Being involved in an investigation doesn't take much, you don't have to do anything besides being near or catching an eye of an investigator, and requirement for warrants is not baseless, it's to exclude the "hey, I don't like this guy, let's investigate him, search everything and then maybe we'll find something to accuse him of".

    12. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by garry_g · · Score: 2

      > If you want to arrive unmolested you might try not taking part in an ongoing criminal conspiracy.

      And how exactly do you ensure that you aren't part of some investigation? Being innocent doesn't protect you from being under false suspicion ... given the level of snooping NSA, GCHQ, BND and the likes are doing, falling under some sort of false suspicion could be caused by a mis-dial or an errant email ... or possibly by some government-critical comment you do on some public forum or similar ... just take the reports of people falsely being on the no-fly-list ...

    13. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by just_a_monkey · · Score: 4, Funny

      6. Enjoy detention until you spill the password?

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    14. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you want to arrive unmolested you might try not taking part in an ongoing criminal conspiracy

      Bullshit.

      TSA et al have done the exact same thing with the laptops of people who aren't suspected of any criminal activity. And even if they are suspected of criminal activity, they're still entitled to due process.

      What you're saying is "you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide".

      Have we actually reached the point where people are willing to accept fascists bypassing the law to make their lives easier? Or bullshit searches defended by the notion that innocent people have nothing to fear?

      Because what yo're saying is "a little fascism is OK if we think they're bad guys". Fuck that.

      This was not a random search without basis or probable cause.

      Then get a fucking warrant . Bypassing legal obligations because you think you can game the system and get the TSA to do it for you means you should lose your fucking job.

      It's bloody well time law enforcement was actually penalized when they do crap like this. And parallel construction should be grounds for criminal perjury charges.

      None of this "oh we had to lie to get a conviction and keep our sources secret". Because that's a crock of shit.

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    15. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by TheCarp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hoenstly, I feel the same way about it. But if its any consolation, I don't feel I pay taxes so much as they just take them. Hell, their "share" of my money gets allocated before I even get it....I have to ask for a portion of it back every year.

      Yet all they ever want to ask me is which face I like, they never once asked me if stomping on liberty was ok, they never once asked me if I wanted to pay for their oil wars or their torture program. I would gladly pay taxes to put every fucking torturer in prison and keep them their till they die of natural causes, but, nobody wants to give me that opportunity.

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    16. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by meta-monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just a point of order, warrants are not required for searches and never have been. The vast majority of searches are conducted without warrants. For instance, the cops don't need a warrant to search somebody they're going to arrest. What's needed is that the search be "reasonable." So, either probable cause ("I smell weed!" rofl rofl rofl) or permission ("Hur, dur, of course you can look in my car occiffer!"). And a warrant is just a way of crossing the i's and dotting to the t's to demonstrate that you have established probable cause. So, don't think that just because a cop doesn't have a warrant he can't search you.

      However, in this case, there is zero probable cause to search this guy's laptop. There is no way one can reasonably believe criminal activity is underway on his laptop, RIGHT NOW such that obtaining a warrant would be unnecessary.

      There seems to have finally been some realization by judges that searches of electronic equipment are BIG FREAKING DEALS. Now that everybody has their life on their phone and computer, a look on your phone or in your laptop is a look inside your brain. I would rather have the cops look in my closet than on my phone. Now that computers have permeated society, I think judges and legislators are becoming less clueless, and we might finally see some progress on civil rights when it comes to electronics. The stuff we've been screaming about on /. for 15+ years is starting to come out of the mouths of judges.

      Just sayin' it's a positive sign.

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    17. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by meta-monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Similar problem with deniable encryption. It sounds great, but if the bad guys think you've fooled them, they'll just keep beating you with the $5 wrench even after you've broken and given them the real password.

      Best idea is to simply avoid people who are legally allowed to beat you. Trolling them sounds like fun, but, well, the wrench...

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    18. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by TheCarp · · Score: 2

      Anything can be called "dual use". I don't rightly give a damn what something CAN be used for. Sell them missles for all I care, they have a right to defend themselves, just like we do.

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    19. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If you want to arrive unmolested you might try not taking part in an ongoing criminal conspiracy

      Also, you'll need to avoid:
      + having a name remotely similar to someone who is part of an ongoing criminal conspiracy,
      + driving a vehicle the same model and color as someone who is part of an ongoing criminal conspiracy,
      + being mentioned in a communication by someone who is part of an ongoing criminal conspiracy, even via typo,
      + looking vaguely like someone who is part of an ongoing criminal conspiracy in the eyes of the half-blind TSA agent,
      + looking like a brown person
      + having a nice looking new computer that a TSA agent just plain feels like stealing.

      All of those things are reasons that either we've seen articles posted here about illegal seizures being justified by, or that people I know myself got "grabbed off the street" for. (That would be the same model/color vehicle one. The 60 year old woman they grabbed was not allowed to contact anyone until she was released with an "oops, license plate was wrong, and we were looking for a 20 year old guy anyways" 12 hours of interrogation later.)

      As long as you manage all of that, AND have nothing to hide, I suppose you're totally safe as can be! (At least until you're not.)

    20. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by TheCarp · · Score: 2

      which is why liberty matters so much. Because mob rule has always favored tyranny and enforcement of its will on others, in fact, the only liberty that matters is the liberty to do what others do not approve of, nothing else even deserves be called liberty.

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    21. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by DutchUncle · · Score: 2

      Just swap in a different hard drive. Since it doesn't have much, a modest SSD should do the trick.

    22. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by Garfong · · Score: 2

      Which, I'm sure, is a huge relief for the people being tortured by fools who believe in it.

    23. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by msim · · Score: 2
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    24. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by Falos · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "You'll be harassed for it." is a bad symptom.

      "If we can't use justice, we'll just use bullshit. We don't need to be 'right'." kind of demands to be contested on sheer principle. No, not everyone can afford to do so, but we can be aware.

    25. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by Immerman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sure it is. As a country we're exceptionally stubborn. Exceptionally greedy. Exceptionally fat. Exceptionally arrogant. Exceptionally stupid. Exceptionally self-absorbed...

      Why, what did you think was exceptional about the US these days?

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    26. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 2

      LOL...the TSA doesn't employ people who could even comprehend the idea of a "fresh install". Most of them are on the same educational level as Walmart greeters. In fact, about a month ago the DHS didn't even bother to tell ANY airlines they where doing some "maintenance" on their no-fly list database...it just suddenly went down and our alarms lit up. This almost resulted in a complete grounding of all US flights! "oh yeah, we forgot" was basically the answer FROM THEIR OWN IT PEOPLE. Even though all these systems use ITIL change control, are required by law to use proper change control methodology...they just "do whatever" and make it up as they go along...even when there is an established system they know they need to use. If I personally had done something like that to that level of a production system, I'd be fired (and possibly sued by my corp to recoup the giant FINE from the FAA)...but DHS does it and the FAA does nothing.

    27. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by tehcyder · · Score: 2

      [[If they ask why it's such a fresh install,]] If they ask why it's such a fresh install, you ask "are fresh installs against the law?".

      And they think "that's exactly what a terrorist would say" and take you away for a few hours of interrogation so you miss your flight and, if you're a foreigner, investigate your background to find a reason to refuse you entry into the country.

      All the internet tough guys and barrack room lawyers here don't seem to realise or remember that mouthing off to border/customs officials has never been a good idea, even before the paranoia about terrorism that we have now.

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    28. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by Dog-Cow · · Score: 2

      No longer true. In recent years the US has started going after non-residents who don't file.

    29. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by TWX · · Score: 2

      It may be a bad symptom, but if you're not an American trying to return to America, then America has no obligation to take you if you're not in some state of duress and seeking asylum. Antagonizing the border guards is not exactly the best way to approach a foreign country.

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    30. Re:More hoops before travelling through USA by bhiestand · · Score: 2

      Two points.

      1) for spinning platters, being able to recover significant amounts of data after even one pass of zeros is a myth. See this article on recovering overwritten data or any of the top google results.

      2) SSDs are different, but far easier to wipe if you get a good model. There is an ATA Secure Erase command, and you can use it directly with hdparm on linux. It takes seconds to wipe most SSDs this way.

      However, firmware implementation of this is spotty. You will find some studies showing secure erase failures. But the paper is 4 years old, and manufacturers seem to have gotten better. So if you're REALLY concerned about this level of security, encrypt your SSDs and find a manufacturer that properly ATA Sanitize Block Erase.

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  3. Violators. by AnotherBlackHat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... agents created an identical image of Kim's entire computer hard drive ...

    So in addition to conducting an illegal search, they also violated several copyrights.

    1. Re:Violators. by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 4, Informative

      Funny how that works.

      Ironically though, this is pretty standard forensic practice. If you look at the active original, there's all kinds of possibility of tampering that could go on, even unwittingly. It's akin to trampling through a potential crime scene with no gloves, hair nets, etc, possibly while bleeding profusely over everything in sight.

      Instead, computer forensic investigators are supposed to create an image of the disk, and then they can look through that image. This is also for the defendent's protection too, since this way if the prosecution does something shady, the defense can use its own copy to point that out.

    2. Re:Violators. by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 3, Informative

      And to clarify, that doesn't mean that the seizure of the laptop or the resulting search of the hard drive was or should have been legal, just that the copying was standard forensic practice for doing so. Just because the cop wears gloves and avoids getting fingerprints on your car doesn't mean that he wasn't illegally searching it in the first place.

  4. Simply a "container," by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 2

    The government argued that a laptop was simply a "container,"

    They x-rayed it and it obviously wasn't full of explosives and it's not a liquid container of 3 ounces (or less) in a "one quart sized, clear plastic bag".

    If they can prove that the files on the computer can somehow explode and be an imminent threat to the flight he was on, I might agree with the TSA. Otherwise I hope this judges decision is upheld. It would be a nice baby step toward having our constitutional rights restored.

  5. Easier to get forgiveness than permission... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What troubles me most is the mindset that allows this kind of bullshit to occur regularly- - and I can only assume it's because there is a now a concrete pattern of never prosecuting government officials for crimes like this.

    The long-term message that comes from NOT prosecuting government torturers, mass surveillance-ers and directors who lie to congress is there will be no consequences, so there is no reason to stop. Is it Snowden who should be prosecuted, or every person who works at the NSA, knew what was happening and that it coudln't possibly be legal, and did NOT speak up?

    PS- hi, nsa

  6. Re:How long before Obama fires this judge? by schwit1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He will have the IRS turn the guy's life upside down. Civil forfeiture and financial account freezes are the modern torture.

  7. Burners by Lilith's+Heart-shape · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is why I never fly with my primary computer, but with a burner laptop - usually a Chromebook that has just been reset to factory defaults and hasn't even been reconnected to Google yet.

  8. this exactly. by nimbius · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The American Civil Liberties Union has long maintained that the authorities invoke the border exception rule to the warrant requirement to build cases when they don't have probable cause to get a warrant.

    shocking enough, the border rule works up to 200 miles inland. People often forget law enforcement agents are not your friends, and generally do not have your best interest in mind. they can and do lie, falsify evidence, and purjor themselves on witness stands. They will rifle through suitcases and backpacks without a warrant, in the hopes you forget about that right. They will strike, kick, and even kill you for attempting to exercise rights or hold them accountable. Prosecutors and DA's offices care more about a successful conviction than a fair one, and so will often target a suspect with a litany of flimsy charges and lengthy jail time. The hope is that you accept a plea-bargain, convict yourself, and save everyone the discomfort of learning how many of these charges will not stand up in court.

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    1. Re:this exactly. by fatwilbur · · Score: 2

      Perhaps I'm just becoming more cynical in my older age, but I just don't think the majority of people care anymore about how the police act. I think there's two human aspects working against us, in the police and general public:

      1. A large majority of the population (at least <50%) when placed in a position of power, will feel superior and disrespectful towards those they have power over. Thus they become corrupt. Pretty much most of human social history is an attempt to prevent and eventually overthrow the inevitable corruption that comes with power, and we are nowhere near a foolproof system yet.

      2. I would bet that, most people if asked, would secretly think the police should do these things "yeah against other people..but not me". People will always support this crap because they are selfish and see this as being control they can place on other people. All the establishment has to do is make sure they target a subset of the population, then it's always "someone else's problem" to voters.

  9. Re:Backwards much? by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But, honestly, with the bullshit "we can do a border search at an airport and within 100 miles of the border", they probably figured they didn't need to.

    They've already been told they have search powers that are effectively unconstitutional, but some how magically legal.

    Which means they felt they could bypass the law by doing the search in an airport, and then using that as grounds for a warrant.

    Evidence that, once again, law enforcement is taking advantage of all of the stupid rules which allow them to bypass the law.

    As much as the judge shut them down, you can bet your ass this was a conscious strategy and not a mistake.

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  10. Re: B I N G O ! by TheCarp · · Score: 2

    Yes its true, people are too busy going around pretending to live in a free country when the truth is, anything some luddite in the government can make a flimsy justification is something you have no freedom to do anymore. free.....to do whats approved by our masters.

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  11. Been through it by mnmn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was asked to login into my phone emails and facebook on the laptop flying back to Miami from Bahamas in my private plane.

    4 officers took over an hour going over all pictures in my camera, emails going way way back, friends posts on facebook and facebook messages some over a year old.

    I gave them all access immediately, but then asked about this process and they gave me a CBSA leaflet that explained if I denied them access they will confiscate the device, copy the contents and ship it back to me.

    I got to keep my electronics because I gave them immediate access even though it cost me long distance data plans there.

    Being a Canadian citizen, I dont think I have any teeth to complain to anyone but our own politicians here. And all they can do is make life miserable for US citizens entering Canada in retaliation.

    I'm just so glad I havent cracked any stupid jokes regarding violence, drugs or terrorism in the last 1-2 years in any facebook messages or comments.

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  12. Re:How long before Obama fires this judge? by dunkindave · · Score: 3, Informative

    First it is a she. Amy Berman Jackson was appointed as a US DIstrict Court Judge by Obama in 2011.

  13. Re:FedEx your power supply... by LessThanObvious · · Score: 2

    Some airports don't allow you to carry on a device that can't be powered on. It's harder to hide something in a functional device than one that doesn't function I guess is the theory.

  14. I had 40 blank USBs retained and searched by forensic.tech · · Score: 2

    The TSA are idiots with no common sense. While I worked for a national security related police agency I was sent to Mexico to train their federal police officers. I had a plane change in New Jersey. Well the TSA decided that the 40 USBs in my bag, all brand new and still sealed in their packages, were "suspicious". So my plane left the US without any of my computer equipment - and of course no one told me. Everything was clearly labeled, I was travelling on a special government passport, and my police business card was attached to the bag with the equipment. The TSA folks opened all the USB wrappers and scanned every single one of the 40 blank USBs before sending them the next day on another plane. I now avoid the US on international flights as well as for tourism in general.

  15. Re:There has never been any justification by tehcyder · · Score: 2

    Can they scan it for potential hazards, or ask us to turn it on to "prove" it is not a hazard?

    Sure.

    But that is all the Gestapo can do.

    Yes, and that's why they're nothing like the actual fucking Gestapo.

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