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The Auto Industry May Mimic the 1980s PC Industry

An anonymous reader writes: An article at TechCrunch looks at some interesting parallels between the current automobile industry and the PC industry of the 1980s. IBM was dominant in 1985, employing four times as many people as its nearest competitor. But as soon as Windows was released, the platform became more important for most end users than the manufacturer. Over the next decade, IBM lost its throne. In 2015, we're on the cusp of a similar change: the computerized car. Automakers, though large and well-established, haven't put much effort into building the platform on which their cars run. Meanwhile, Google's Android Auto and Apple CarPlay are constantly improving. As soon as those hit a breakthrough point where it's more important for a customer to have the platform than the manufacturer's logo on the side, the industry is likely to resemble a replay of the PC industry in the 1980s.

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  1. Oh please by Viol8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hardly anyone over the age of 25 cares about the eye candy touchscreen and gadgets in the car. They either car about space for kids and/or general crap, fuel economy, performance or looks or a combination of the above. Everything else can be done on a smartphone.

  2. So, we're going to get Toyota clones? by NotDrWho · · Score: 4, Insightful

    IBM wasn't undone by the platform, they were undone by the CLONES running the platform. And at the end of the day, a car is still 99% hardware. It takes a lot to build one, and I can't envision a world where cars can be easily home built from standard parts.

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    1. Re:So, we're going to get Toyota clones? by tburkhol · · Score: 3, Insightful

      the value of the tesla is in the software

      No, the value of a Tesla is that it's a gorgeous car with exceptional styling, beautiful materials, great performance, and decent range. They control some of this with software that I'll never directly interact with, and the nav/AV system is great, but putting a Tesla computer in a Lancer is not going to make people buy Lancers.

  3. Warning by postbigbang · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Vendor-driven marketing platitudes bearing little resemblance to reality using shortened memes for theme driven effect.

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  4. You're dying off by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I disagree with the premise of the article, as there are quite a few things about automobiles which are independent of the OS the in-vehicle entertainment and nav console - much more than a beige box pc.

    However, it's worth noting that people over 25 are dying. Old people (over 25) as a market segment will change dramatically over then next 30 years as nearly everyone over 50 will no longer be in the market for an automobile. The "money" demographic will shift to those who are just now getting their driver's licenses.

    I do find it depressing that, in an age where interactivity with personal devices can be done in an agnostic way, more and more interfaces are becoming OS specific.

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    1. Re:You're dying off by NotDrWho · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, but the 20-year-old who wants a cool software suite in his car today will be a family man who just wants plenty of room tomorrow. Eighteen year olds have a nasty, but consistent, tendency to become 30-somethings.

      When I was 18 I drove a Camaro with a kick-ass sound system and it was good.
      When I was 35, I drove a mini-van with many screens to distract the kids and it was good
      When I was 45, I drove a Camaro again, because I wasn't good.
      When I was 55, I drove a Mercedes and it was very good.

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    2. Re:You're dying off by judoguy · · Score: 3, Insightful
      You're an idiot. People over 50 are too old to buy cars!? Look at who has the money, in the U.S. at least. "Old people" who have far more money as a demographic than younger people.

      I'm in my 60's, no college debt, no house payment, making money hand over fist as an IT consultant. Who the fuck do you think the car companies drool over? Some young demographic with a bleak future or me?

      Dumbass.

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    3. Re:You're dying off by sinij · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Both views are simplifications. What you should be asking is as following, as people under 25 as they get older, still care about pointless shiny in their cars?

      When I was under 25 I made some very questionable stylistic and functional choices for my auto, now as I got older I grew out of it.

    4. Re:You're dying off by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The argument isn't that old people don't buy cars now, it's that they won't buy cars in the future, because they'll be dead.

    5. Re:You're dying off by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When I was 18 I drove a Camaro with a kick-ass sound system and it was good.

      When I was 35, I drove a mini-van with many screens to distract the kids and it was good

      When I was 45, I drove a Camaro again, because I wasn't good.

      When I was 55, I drove a Mercedes and it was very good.

      So pretty soon you will be riding the Cadillac, with a Landau roof and a slanted integral sign as decoration, eh?

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    6. Re:You're dying off by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Unless you paid cash, you didn't buy a car, the bank did. You likely bought a loan. Nothing wrong with it, just saying most people don't buy cars. They buy an illusion of buying cars.

      Me, on the other hand, buy my cars. Usually Nice Used cars. I'd rather take my hard earned money and buy other things than nice new Shiny cars, that promptly lose somewhere around 20 % the moment you drive off a lot. I am driving a car I spent $1700 three years ago, and could probably get $1000 today (5/18/15) if I put it up for sale on Craigslist. Apart from normal wear (tires, smog, tuneups etc), I haven't had to put a nickel into it. It rides as nice today, as the day I bought it.

      I'd rather spend my money elsewhere.

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    7. Re:You're dying off by dj245 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      While those Gizmos may be cool and fun, they are no longer your major concern. Now this isn't all that bad, you are more mature and comfortable with yourself, things don't bother you so much, but you also need such distractions as well.

      I thought like that for a long time, then one day I realized that I had optimized "fun" almost entirely out of my life. I am a lot happier now that I make sure to budget for "fun" things. Going through life without frivolous, but fun things was negatively affecting my mental condition. The joy of saving a dollar can only take you so far.

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  5. The Author Never Owned a Car by ClayDowling · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The thing that's important about a car isn't the in car entertainment system. It's the wheels and the engine and the bits in between that let me get to where I need to go. I need that to last a decade or more. I need it to be a good match for the way I drive. The in car computer system? Don't care. My current ride doesn't even have much of a driver facing interface, other than some indicator lights. My in car entertainment system consists of a radio and whoever is in the passenger seat. Navigation comes from my smart phone. I upgrade the smart phone every couple of years, which expands capacity.

  6. That's a poor analogy. by the_skywise · · Score: 3, Insightful

    PC's in the late 80s were standardized - Functionally there was very little difference between an actual IBM PC running DOS or a far cheaper PC clone running DOS. That changed with IBM attempting the PS/2 architecture but by then everybody was settled on the AT (and later the ATX) motherboard architecture. AMD vs Intel exchange some performance vs price differences but ultimately that's like choosing a V6 over a V8 over an I4 and most people aren't going to care.

    Each car manufacturer has its own architecture, designs and manufacturing styles - Just slapping a google-droidPod-phone-radio into the car isn't going to make a major difference when I'm looking for dependability or gas mileage (or battery mileage) or style/appearance.

    A closer analogy would've been the 6502 systems (the original Apple vs IBM vs Commodore 64 vs Atari)