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Asus ZenFone 2 Performance Sneak Peek With Intel Z3580 Inside

MojoKid writes: Asus just finally made their ZenFone 2 available for sale in the US. It's an Intel-powered smartphone running Android Lollipop that's compatible with AT&T and T-Mobile, and other cellular networks that utilize GSM technology, like Straight Talk, MetroPCS, and Cricket Wireless among others.The device is packing a quad-core Intel Atom Z3580 (2.3GHz) with PowerVR G6430 graphics and 4GB of RAM, along with Intel 7262 and Intel 2230 modem tech, a 5.5" Full HD screen, a 13MP rear camera, dual-SIM support and 802.11ac Wi-Fi. The high-end model can be had for only $299, unlocked. A $199 version with 2GB of RAM and a slightly slower Intel Atom Z3560 is also available. In the benchmarks, the Zenfone 2 offers competent though middling performance but considering Asus has priced the ZenFone 2 so aggressively, it's sure to grab some attention at retail with consumers looking for a contract-free commitment.

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  1. Here's why it's better than an S6 or iPhone 6 by CajunArson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Does the Zenfone have enough performance to get the job done in the real world? Sure.
    Does the Zenfone win every benchmark? Nope.
    Will the Zenfone be obsolete in 2 years? Yup.
    Will the S6 and the iPhone 6 ALSO be obsolete in 2 years while at the same time costing a buttload more upfront? Yup.

    And that's why the Zenfone is the winner.

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    1. Re:Here's why it's better than an S6 or iPhone 6 by danbob999 · · Score: 2

      The point is that the Zenphone 2 offers 90% of $700+ phones for a third of the price. It totally kills the iPhone 5c/s for half the price.

    2. Re:Here's why it's better than an S6 or iPhone 6 by CastrTroy · · Score: 2

      Exactly. I see no point in spending large amounts of money on the iPhone or Samsung Galaxy S phones. In 2 years you will have to get a new one, either because it's obsolete, or they stop sending software updates, or the battery has stopped holding a full charge, or something has broken like the screen or one of the buttons (power, volume, etc). It's not really any fault of the device, it's just the reality of something you carry around with you all the time. Something is going to happen to the phone no matter how careful you are with it. I just got a new phone, and it was $200 US. I think that's a pretty decent price for a phone. I really can't justify spending much more than that on a device that has a lifespan of 2 years. The experience you get from a $200 phone isn't much different than a $700 phone in the current market. The only thing the $700 phone gets you is bragging rights.

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    3. Re:Here's why it's better than an S6 or iPhone 6 by danbob999 · · Score: 2

      There is a $199 version.

  2. Windows? by oic0 · · Score: 2

    So can I install normal windows x86 on this thing and use x86 programs, games, etc...? I can run linux In a VM on my android phones with good performance, would love to run full windows.

    1. Re:Windows? by CastrTroy · · Score: 2

      At 2 GB of RAM, and a 2.3 GHz Atom Processor it has similar specs to the HP Stream 7. No idea how much storage is on it, but I don't really see any reason you couldn't run the full version of Windows if you wanted to. I think the only reason you couldn't is that Windows doesn't actually have software connecting to the GSM radio and making phone calls. Also, Android and Windows Phone OS have much better handling of low power modes. I don't think the battery would last very long running full Windows or Linux as the phone would probably be using a lot more battery. Perhaps Windows could work using something like its connected standby functionality.

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  3. Article doesn't answer two biggest questions by sideslash · · Score: 2

    FTA: "It remains to be seen [...] how long the ZenFone 2’s battery will last, but we should have all of that data shortly."

    Ahem. Yes. That is one of my biggest questions about this phone, and the other is what you are supposed to do with it, given that the Android app stores' content tends to be geared toward ARM.

    1. Re:Article doesn't answer two biggest questions by sideslash · · Score: 2

      I like technology options, the more the merrier, so I'm glad to see Intel pushing to compete with ARM. That said, I'm not going to recommend an x86 Android phone to a friend until battery life and app availability are both on par with ARM. Performance is already getting there, it's pretty clear.

      My iOS devices are pretty fair space heaters themselves when rendering high frame rate apps. (shrug)

    2. Re:Article doesn't answer two biggest questions by swv3752 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I have had a Zenfone2 for over a month now. I am at about 50% after 16 hours with moderate usage- checking email connected to Zenwatch, streaming music for a few hours, and checking a few websites through out the day, and play a few games.

      Everything feels smooth and no lag anywhere. While I have heard of some folks with applications not working on an Atom, I have not experienced any issues. Hulu, Netflix, Youtube all play smooth and cast to my Chromecast fine. Games play fantastic.

      Overall it has been a very nice phone and I am more pleased with it than my prior Nexus 5.

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  4. Zxx80? by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Boy, some people just refuse to let go of legacy processors...

    1. Re:Zxx80? by spire3661 · · Score: 2

      And some refuse to see that ARM is crap compared to 14nm x86.

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  5. Re:Can it run apps from the Google app store? by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 2

    No, most of the apps are JIT compiled in the VM when run.

  6. Re:Oooooold by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 3, Informative

    You must not have been around in the early days if you think AC shitposting is a new thing. The current level is far less than it used to be in the early days of constant GNAA and Goatse ASCII posts.

  7. Re:Can it run apps from the Google app store? by PitaBred · · Score: 2

    Not with Lollipop. It uses the ART runtime as the default, and precompiles all apps for the local architecture.

    https://source.android.com/dev...

  8. One Problem by BigFootApe · · Score: 4, Informative

    With PowerVR G6430 graphics

    The worst of the worst for driver quality and developer access. Nothing's really changed from the GMA500 days.

  9. Obsolete in 2 years? by Petersko · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm going to make the case that your obsolence argument is invalid.

    iOS 8.3 still supports the iPhone 4s, which was released in 2011, 4 years ago. (I know there are locked-in android models where manufacturers have denied devices updates, though.) A two year old phone isn't even obsolete by capability anymore either. Nearly any app will work on a model made in 2013.

    Ditching your phone just because the battery doesn't hold a charge is a bit shortsighted... the batteries are cheap, and service can be had every hundred feet in a lot of malls. If my iPhone 5 battery needs replacement it'll cost me all of $20, installed. The most expensive service you can buy in a local repair shop for my phone is $89, parts and labour included. That's a full screen replacement without having to send the thing away.

    So I question the idea that a phone has a 2 year lifespan.

  10. Cheap mid spec is the way to go by p51d007 · · Score: 2

    For probably 75-80% of your TYPICAL smart phone user, the mid tier devices will be all they would ever need, but, most consumers fall for the slick marketing, hype and got to keep up with the Jones' attitude and will go on the hook (even under an overpriced contract) for a flagship device. I did the numbers when I bought my last phone almost a year ago. I had been off contract for over a year with straight talk, with zero issue or coverage problems. At the time the S5 had been out and the OnePlus was just out (late May '14). I went ahead and bought a $299.00 Huawei Mate2. It's a mid tier device, 6" screen, 720p, snapdragon 400. It was the BATTERY size that sold me, 4,000mAH. I ran the numbers between it and the S5, and in a 24 month period (typical USA contract), I save over 84 dollars per month buying outright, than on a contract. The problem with the device manufacturers now, is lack of INNOVATION. They release a new device every 6-9 months with marginal speed increases or tighter pixel densities, or (shudder) higher megapixel cameras. And with them come HIGHER prices. But, if you run the same apps on my snapdragon 400 device, with these snapdragon 80x devices (general apps, not high intensity games), you will find both devices run them adequately for everyday use. Then why are people willing to shell out year after year for overpriced devices, that the apps can't really benefit from? Because in my opinion, they are suckers. Also, it's in the best interest of both the carriers & manufacturers to NOT offer software updates to the devices, when, they can push them into a new device every 12 months, and, simply extend the contract. You keep them locked in for life. I hope these "sell for cost" or mid tier devices flood the markets. It will require the "big boys" to change their market ideas to compete. They will have to drop the price on their devices, or lose market share. More competition is good for the consumer. When the manufacturing cost of a smartphone, with marketing, research, advertising is less than 200 dollars, but yet they will retail them for 700, 800 or more, consumers are being ripped off. That's why I will stick with a good quality mid tier device. It's your money...do what you want, but I'd prefer value, over bright shiny new flashy things.