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An anonymous reader writes: For those of us who don't need or want a smartphone, what would be the best dumb phone around? Do you have a preference over flip or candy bar ones? What about ones that have FM radio? Do any of you still use dumb phones in this smart phone era? Related question: What smart phones out now are (or can be reasonably outfitted to be) closest to a dumb phone, considering reliability, simplicity, and battery life? I don't especially want to give up a swiping keyboard, a decent camera, or podcast playback, but I do miss being able to go 5 or more days on a single charge. Have a question for Slashdot's readers? Take a look at other recent questions first to see if someone else has had a similar question. And if not, ask away! The more details and context you include, the more likely your question will be selected.

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  1. Ultra Power Saving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Some smart phones have an "ultra power saving mode" (see Samsung Galaxy 5/6) that essentially turns them into dumb phones. My Galaxy 5 will last 2 weeks in this mode.

    1. Re:Ultra Power Saving by mlts · · Score: 3, Informative

      My HTC One M8 has an Extreme Power Saving mode which replaces the Launcher, drops all network connections, and only allows a few basic functions to work. Not sure how long it will last, but easily over a week.

    2. Re:Ultra Power Saving by erice · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Seriously, under what circumstances will you be away from electricity power for more than two days? And that, without considering battery pakcs, a second battery or a portable solar charger...

      1) Multi-day backpacking trip. Yes, you could carry extra extra battery, solar charger, etc. But, chances are these are space and weight are at a premium and those items may not make the cut. If one even remembers to bring them along.

      2) Traveling to a foreign country where the requisite power adapters have not been acquired or failed to make it into the pack. Bonus for traveling through intermediate countries that have different plugs than your source or destination.

      3) Shorter but busy trips where the charging just does not happen. (After a long day, arrive at hotel, go directly to bed. Wake up in the morning. Did I charge my phone? Oops. Oh, well. Gotta run.)

      In some of these cases, there is no usable service anyway so you might as well turn the phone off. But I don't always remember to do this and my experience hiking is that it is very easy for me to accidentally turn the phone on and not notice if it still in my pocket.

      And, of course, you need to be prepared for battery degradation. Most phones these days do not have replaceable batteries. I always cut the manufacturer's battery life in half when deciding whether it suits my needs.

  2. What is it you want again? by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Related question: What smart phones out now are (or can be reasonably outfitted to be) closest to a dumb phone, considering reliability, simplicity, and battery life? I don't especially want to give up a swiping keyboard, a decent camera, or podcast playback, but I do miss being able to go 5 or more days on a single charge.

    So, you want a dumb phone, but you want it to have smart phone features, and a huge battery charge, and lots of doo-dads and stuff ... just like a smart phone?

    Well, good luck with that.

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    1. Re:What is it you want again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      No. The person sent in the question wants a dumb phone.

      The stupid editor added the second question about a smart phone because TIMMY !

    2. Re:What is it you want again? by bmxeroh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's "TIMMAH!"

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    3. Re:What is it you want again? by Grishnakh · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Exactly. You can't have it both ways. If you want a good camera, then you're firmly in smartphone territory, and recent phones too. Even my 4-year-old smartphone's camera sucks.

      What we need to be doing is figuring out how to make our own smartphones that actually work well. The key to this (since we can't build them ourselves obviously) is to back some of the open-source community projects like CyanogenMod (or any better ones, I'm open to suggestions) and get those working well, just like OpenWrt works well for a lot of routers. If you want a good router that doesn't have any spyware or other BS from the manufacturer, you don't *need* to build your own router from the ground up, you just need to find a cheap consumer router that's supported by OpenWrt and install that, and then you're set. We need to do the same for phones.

      There's always going to be limitations, however. Phones only come with batteries that are so large, but by customizing the software some of that can be mitigated, by removing all the bloatware and making very stripped-down builds which don't have much running in the background. Obviously, the phone makers and carriers are not going to provide what we want for us, at any price, so if we want this stuff we have to do it ourselves. And, there's already projects in existence with goals much like this, so it shouldn't be that hard to piggyback onto one of them.

    4. Re:What is it you want again? by afgam28 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Most of the crappy battery life of smartphone is due to constant network polling by apps. If you just get a smartphone and use it as a dumb phone, then turning off cellular data will give you many days of battery life. Try it, you might be surprised.

    5. Re:What is it you want again? by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, good luck with that.

      You mock, but it exists. Samsung Galaxy S5 and S6.

      With the push of a button you're in ultra power saving mode. Black and white screen. SMS and Calling only. No background software, no other foreground apps other than your contact list. 12+ days of battery life. WiFi and 3G off. etc. It's quite good for a short trip of a few days where you want to preserve battery life and still receive calls (about the only thing a dumb phone is good for).

  3. NOKIA by Tyrannosaur · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Those things really are indestructible. I would hop on Amazon or ebay and pick up a used one. Definitely worth it.

    If that is not an option, then I would go something candybar. Every phone I have seen broken that had moving parts broke at the moving parts.

    1. Re:NOKIA by antiperimetaparalogo · · Score: 3, Informative

      When (some decades ago) i was serving as a conscript in the Greek SP my unit was tasked to use as a "long period test" what was destined to be the regular army's new personal radio communication equipment - with that as my personal experience i can claim that yes, Nokia are indestructible: i have my heavily (ab)used 6303 for 6-7 years now, this thing works and looks like it was new - if i was ever going to war, that's a phone i would take with me... plus, it can be useful if you ran out of bullets... or if you ever need a hamer!

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  4. why? by koan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't especially want to give up a swiping keyboard, a decent camera, or podcast playback

    Then you're stuck, or get a tablet.

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  5. AT&T Z432 by OccamsRazorTime · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It looks like a blackberry, has a real keyboard, and can stay charged for 3-4 days while in use for texting. It has GPS, bluetooth, and web. but really not. I have this phone as a dumb phone...no data plan. It's pretty good.

  6. I want the same question answered clearly by MillerHighLife21 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What's the best dumb phone? I want calls, voice mail, text message and battery life. That's it.

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    1. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by Benwick · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I got a Samsung in the Ukraine for about $10 US at a phone stand in a mall. Once I figured out how to get it into English instead of Cyrillic, it became the most practical phone for travel that I've ever found. The screen is just old one-color LCD with a backlight. The battery lasts for weeks on a good charge. It sends old fashioned texts and makes phone calls with better sound quality than the fancy Android I use now. And I never have to deal with the whole phone "locking" thing US carriers have, I can just buy a new cheap SIM card wherever I travel.

    2. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by Benwick · · Score: 4, Informative

      It is a Samsung GT-E1080i. Mine's a different edition from the ones I'm seeing online because it has Cyrillic (and English) on the keys. But who cares. You can get one for $4 + another $4 S&H off eBay right now. It'll be the best $8 you ever spent.
       

  7. Model 500 by hawguy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My parents still have one of these in their house, and it still works fine (even if dialing is tedious):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Since it's around 50 years old and still working, I'd say it's the best dumb phone.

  8. Re:Extended battery by An+Ominous+Cow+Erred · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In my experience, Mugen makes the best extended batteries (both in size and performance).

    Of course this is not useful if your phone does not have a replaceable battery (e.g. iPhones). But in general any popular phone with a replaceable battery will have extended batteries made for it. You just put the extended fat battery in then use the provided replacement back panel that includes an enlarged area to hold the new fat battery.

    I *always* get this for my phones because I get sick of having to remember to charge them.

    http://www.mugenpowerbatteries...

  9. Just researched this for my kids by Bill+Hayden · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've done a lot of research on this, and the Nokia Asha 501 is the best dumb phone I've found: http://amzn.to/1HncbcC

    I purchased it because it was the most smartphone-like phone on which AT&T does not require a data plan (my definition of dumb phone, yours may vary). The battery lasts a few days when using it mostly for music and internet, or a couple weeks (!) when using it for calls only. It's small, but not too small to be useful. With it's built-in WiFi, it's the only dumbphone that I know that will do Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, Email, and even a small number of games.

    This is not going to touch any iPhone or Android phone by a long shot, but for the price it does pretty well.

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    1. Re:Just researched this for my kids by Nutria · · Score: 3, Informative

      Sounds like a feature phone.

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  10. I always like the 5190 by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Personally I always like my old Nokia 5190 built like a tank, it made phone calls, and with the Li-ion battery instead of the NiMH it would go almost 2 weeks on a charge. That said I gave up on non smart phones recently as the last time I needed to replace my phone the only non smartphones available at the store were the flip phone model that went to shit on me in 8 months that I was replacing and the display model for a candy bar phone that they were otherwise out of stock of. I don't play "angry flappy craft" or tweet about my latest bowl movement from the stall at work but I do like the ability of my current phone to accept a huge SD card filled with my music and that it can run Navit but other than that one program I could do everything I currently do with a simple dumb phone.

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    1. Re:I always like the 5190 by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 5, Funny

      tweet about my latest bowl movement from the stall at work

      Instead of tweeting about bowl movements, you should get the maintenance folks to tighten the mounting bolts.

  11. Noia E6 by aglider · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's a smartphone with great battery life. 4/5 days to me.

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  12. Blackberry bold by netsavior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you want a smartphone that isn't a smartphone, I am assuming you want to avoid the app infrastructure of apple and google? I have no idea what your actual goal is, but blackberry solved this ages ago. What you really seem to want is a smartphone from before iPhones ruined the market for practical smartphones.

    I submit to you: Blackberry Bold
    insane battery life (remember BB was competing with dumb phones not smartphones, so the charge every 8 hours thing hadn't started yet) - 12 days standby 6 hours talk, 50 hours audio playback
    camera, sure it has a decent camera
    Insanely good Keyboard that openly laughs at "swipe" keyboards.
    Podcasts, sure
    costs about 80 dollars now.

  13. Samsung Rugby III by thirdpoliceman · · Score: 3, Informative

    I really enjoy my Samsung Rugby III. http://www.samsung.com/ca/cons... It has a memo feature that is handy, a calendar, and each feature can be locked or kept open depending on your preference.

  14. Re:best phone: WEco 520 desk model by TWX · · Score: 4, Informative

    For POTS lines I prefer the Western Electric 2500 or 2554 depending on a tabletop vs wallmount application. They were designed when the phone company owned them and they were leased with the service, so they were overdesigned to last decades. Nearly every phone in my house is one of these two models.

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