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An anonymous reader writes: For those of us who don't need or want a smartphone, what would be the best dumb phone around? Do you have a preference over flip or candy bar ones? What about ones that have FM radio? Do any of you still use dumb phones in this smart phone era? Related question: What smart phones out now are (or can be reasonably outfitted to be) closest to a dumb phone, considering reliability, simplicity, and battery life? I don't especially want to give up a swiping keyboard, a decent camera, or podcast playback, but I do miss being able to go 5 or more days on a single charge. Have a question for Slashdot's readers? Take a look at other recent questions first to see if someone else has had a similar question. And if not, ask away! The more details and context you include, the more likely your question will be selected.

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  1. Ultra Power Saving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Some smart phones have an "ultra power saving mode" (see Samsung Galaxy 5/6) that essentially turns them into dumb phones. My Galaxy 5 will last 2 weeks in this mode.

    1. Re:Ultra Power Saving by mlts · · Score: 3, Informative

      My HTC One M8 has an Extreme Power Saving mode which replaces the Launcher, drops all network connections, and only allows a few basic functions to work. Not sure how long it will last, but easily over a week.

    2. Re:Ultra Power Saving by erice · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Seriously, under what circumstances will you be away from electricity power for more than two days? And that, without considering battery pakcs, a second battery or a portable solar charger...

      1) Multi-day backpacking trip. Yes, you could carry extra extra battery, solar charger, etc. But, chances are these are space and weight are at a premium and those items may not make the cut. If one even remembers to bring them along.

      2) Traveling to a foreign country where the requisite power adapters have not been acquired or failed to make it into the pack. Bonus for traveling through intermediate countries that have different plugs than your source or destination.

      3) Shorter but busy trips where the charging just does not happen. (After a long day, arrive at hotel, go directly to bed. Wake up in the morning. Did I charge my phone? Oops. Oh, well. Gotta run.)

      In some of these cases, there is no usable service anyway so you might as well turn the phone off. But I don't always remember to do this and my experience hiking is that it is very easy for me to accidentally turn the phone on and not notice if it still in my pocket.

      And, of course, you need to be prepared for battery degradation. Most phones these days do not have replaceable batteries. I always cut the manufacturer's battery life in half when deciding whether it suits my needs.

    3. Re:Ultra Power Saving by bwave · · Score: 1

      My Droid Ultra lasts about 2 1/2 days using it as a smartphone, with 4G & wifi, location services and GPS all turned on. I do have bluetooth turned off, and nighttime power saver enabled. Also it only takes like 15 minutes to charge to 85% battery. I use it quite a bit to take pictures for eBay, and the eBay app on wifi during the day at work. It's quite snappy in performance, decent enough screen size and resolution for me. Now we do have a repeater in the building, I know the one thing that kills alot of phones is when you have a weak signal, and it has to boost power to continually ping the tower.

    4. Re:Ultra Power Saving by stridebird · · Score: 2

      ...Seriously, under what circumstances will you be away from electricity power for more than two days? And that, without considering battery pakcs, a second battery or a portable solar charger...

      Wow. Just wow. Modern child, you will die early if it all goes tits up I think...

    5. Re:Ultra Power Saving by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

      2) Traveling to a foreign country where the requisite power adapters have not been acquired or failed to make it into the pack. Bonus for traveling through intermediate countries that have different plugs than your source or destination.

      Brute force can often deal with this problem. (French "type C" plugs can be forced into quite a large number of sockets that they're not supposed to be. http://www.worldstandards.eu/e... ).

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    6. Re:Ultra Power Saving by Alien7 · · Score: 1

      Your roommates steal all the phone chargers so you have to charge your phone at work.

  2. What is it you want again? by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Related question: What smart phones out now are (or can be reasonably outfitted to be) closest to a dumb phone, considering reliability, simplicity, and battery life? I don't especially want to give up a swiping keyboard, a decent camera, or podcast playback, but I do miss being able to go 5 or more days on a single charge.

    So, you want a dumb phone, but you want it to have smart phone features, and a huge battery charge, and lots of doo-dads and stuff ... just like a smart phone?

    Well, good luck with that.

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    1. Re:What is it you want again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      No. The person sent in the question wants a dumb phone.

      The stupid editor added the second question about a smart phone because TIMMY !

    2. Re:What is it you want again? by OzPeter · · Score: 2

      Well, good luck with that.

      After reading another comment, and looking at TFS again, I concur with the other poster that the bit you are complaining about was added by our favorite [southparkVoice] Timmie [/southparkVoice] and not the OP.

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    3. Re:What is it you want again? by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      Smart phones with a huge battery charge? Which are those?

    4. Re:What is it you want again? by bmxeroh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's "TIMMAH!"

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    5. Re:What is it you want again? by Grishnakh · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Exactly. You can't have it both ways. If you want a good camera, then you're firmly in smartphone territory, and recent phones too. Even my 4-year-old smartphone's camera sucks.

      What we need to be doing is figuring out how to make our own smartphones that actually work well. The key to this (since we can't build them ourselves obviously) is to back some of the open-source community projects like CyanogenMod (or any better ones, I'm open to suggestions) and get those working well, just like OpenWrt works well for a lot of routers. If you want a good router that doesn't have any spyware or other BS from the manufacturer, you don't *need* to build your own router from the ground up, you just need to find a cheap consumer router that's supported by OpenWrt and install that, and then you're set. We need to do the same for phones.

      There's always going to be limitations, however. Phones only come with batteries that are so large, but by customizing the software some of that can be mitigated, by removing all the bloatware and making very stripped-down builds which don't have much running in the background. Obviously, the phone makers and carriers are not going to provide what we want for us, at any price, so if we want this stuff we have to do it ourselves. And, there's already projects in existence with goals much like this, so it shouldn't be that hard to piggyback onto one of them.

    6. Re:What is it you want again? by afgam28 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Most of the crappy battery life of smartphone is due to constant network polling by apps. If you just get a smartphone and use it as a dumb phone, then turning off cellular data will give you many days of battery life. Try it, you might be surprised.

    7. Re:What is it you want again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Most smart phones will actually last as long on a charge as dumb phones used to do, if you turn off WLAN (including positioning by WLAN), mobile data and GPS, and only use them as much as you used dumb phones (otherwise the display will eat the battery).

    8. Re:What is it you want again? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      So if you turn off the 'smart' part, it lasts as long as a less expensive phone without those bits. Gotcha.

    9. Re:What is it you want again? by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      But then it will have the swyping,camera, and podcast features that the submitter wanted.

    10. Re:What is it you want again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sarcasm? Why? Many people who want dumb phones only want them for the longer battery life. But in that case they're looking in the wrong place. Instead of getting an actual dumb phone, they should configure a smart phone to use very little energy.

      Most actual dumb phones are cheaply made these days, because they're targeted at low income markets and sold as "disposable" phones with prepaid cards. Good dumb phones cost more than better smart phones.

      Even cheap smart phones with wireless and mobile data disabled are leaps and bounds above dumb phones. You take things like having a proper contact list on your phone for granted. You might not remember this, but contact databases on dumb phones absolutely sucked, and not just because you had to navigate them with a keyboard. And smart phones can (almost) all be charged via micro USB. Most dumb phones come with a unique charger, that nobody else has, especially these days.

      Unless you're looking for a very cheap phone, a smart phone is the better choice. But if we're talking about sub $20 phones, then we've left the topic of "best dumb phone", haven't we?

    11. Re:What is it you want again? by HairyNevus · · Score: 1

      This.

      I really think "Airplane mode" should be renamed something else ("Battery saving mode"?), I use it all the time as a battery saving function when I still need to access my phone for other purposes and it gives me massive battery increase.

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    12. Re:What is it you want again? by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      A swiping keyboard requires capacitive touch. Capacitive touch requires more energy than just a hardware keyboard. There are Android phones without touch capabilities and only hardware keyboards, especially in developing countries, but I do not think that's what you want. Also, those phones do get security updates, but they will never go above Android 2.3x because they only have a single core processor.

      An FM radio requires a wired earbuds/headset to act as an FM antenna. Phones in developing countries have that functionality enabled as well, since data connections can be very expensive otherwise. Camera, don't aim higher than 2MP or 3MP, if you want something better, you'll need to carry an extra standalone camera with you (or actually buy a better phone). Podcast playback implies longer battery usage. You'll be able to do it, but you shouldn't do it if you really want to conserve battery power.

      You'll also need to keep your data turned off, buy yourself an extended battery with good reviews, and live near a cell phone tower if you want to get yourself closer to your goal of multiple days without a single charge. By the way 5 days may be pushing it, if your battery is the size of a briefcase, like in the olden days of early cell phones, then may be you have a shot at lasting 5 days, but then you'll have to carry a very heavy briefcase everywhere you go. Also, I mentioned that you needed to be near a cell tower, because if you live near a cell tower, your phone doesn't keep retrying the connection every few seconds, your phone wastes less battery energy, and your phone actually irradiates you less.

    13. Re:What is it you want again? by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, good luck with that.

      You mock, but it exists. Samsung Galaxy S5 and S6.

      With the push of a button you're in ultra power saving mode. Black and white screen. SMS and Calling only. No background software, no other foreground apps other than your contact list. 12+ days of battery life. WiFi and 3G off. etc. It's quite good for a short trip of a few days where you want to preserve battery life and still receive calls (about the only thing a dumb phone is good for).

    14. Re:What is it you want again? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      All of them. Smartphones have much bigger batteries than their dumber counterparts.

    15. Re:What is it you want again? by rea1l1 · · Score: 1

      I would really like a dumb phone brick with a huge battery, standard phone keyboard, and the ability to project a WAP with the flip of a switch on the side.

    16. Re:What is it you want again? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      But they don't last half as long.

    17. Re:What is it you want again? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      I use Airplane mode, with wifi turned back on, exclusively on my smartphone. Because it's not used as a phone and actually has never been activated. It's a Boost phone that was $40. I've rooted it, but not so far been able to figure out which activation binaries to rip out. It screams at me with popups after every reset that it's in Airplane mode, because it really wants to be activated. It's a really nice pocket wifi computer and a very low cost android flavor iPod Touch.

    18. Re:What is it you want again? by tverbeek · · Score: 1

      He wants a phone that can't understand the meaning of "closest to".

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    19. Re:What is it you want again? by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      If you never use mobile internet or games, it's not that hard to get 5 days charge out of a smartphone. I probably charge my smartphone every 5 days or so because I don't use it much.

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    20. Re:What is it you want again? by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      What's so bad? Contact name, number. That's it. You can either back contacts up to the SIM card, or default to storing them on SIM card. (some phones may e.g. store two numbers per contact, but that will map to two entries when on SIM card)
      If you want more, there's pen and paper contact list or perhaps little tools that may come with a webmail. You need a back up anyway (a USB SIM reader may be another way to back up)

      What you miss : dumb phone is half the size of a low end smartphone. They also don't get outdated and/or full of malware (arguably the stock OS is outdated when you buy a low end Android and it's debatable whether the bunch of apps that comes with it are malware already.)

    21. Re:What is it you want again? by Urban+Nightmare · · Score: 1

      Sonim X7 has a huge 4800mAh battery. Seems to last for quite a few days if you turn off wifi, mobile data, gps and bluetooth. That and it's ruggedized to boot.

    22. Re:What is it you want again? by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      Actually with a push of a button my Galaxy S5 will switch to a dumbphone with limited features available which extends it battery life to 14days standby. Better than any dumbphone I've ever had.

      Best of all with a push of a button I can switch it back again.

    23. Re: What is it you want again? by slick7 · · Score: 1

      A pair of tin cans and some string would be better. No NSA eavesdropping and defininately no driving while cell phoning or texting.

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    24. Re:What is it you want again? by mysidia · · Score: 1

      So, you want a dumb phone, but you want it to have smart phone features

      I want something as close to a smart phone as possible that The phone company will not force me to get a data plan for

      ATT, Verizon, and others have a policy that you cannot use certain phones on their network without a data plan. They will automatically upgrade you to a data plan, even if you would rather use your phone with WiFi.

      I want the phone with the most features as possible that you can use without a data plan.

      Frankly, I would like an Android device with no non-Wifi data functionality, that the phone companies would classify as a dumb phone.

    25. Re:What is it you want again? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      No, you don't. In bright daylight, a small lens works just fine, though they are noisier than a serious camera's lens. Where smartphones really fall down is when the lighting is less than optimal. But if you're just taking some not-so-serious outdoor shots, smartphone cameras are sufficient, and certainly better than no camera at all.

    26. Re:What is it you want again? by gustygolf · · Score: 1

      I've turned off the data connection and all apps, and set all the power-saving tunables I could find, yet my MB526 aka Motorola Defy+ still can't do more than two days without a charge. So I was very much not surprised.

      (Yes, even if I don't fiddle with it one bit. Make no phone calls. The display stays off for the whole time.)

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    27. Re:What is it you want again? by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      She-it, you got me beat. I paid $120 for a AT&T Go Phone I use similarly, though I actually do use it as a phone now and then.

      It makes a nice android-style iPod touch, as you said.

    28. Re:What is it you want again? by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      I want something as close to a smart phone as possible that The phone company will not force me to get a data plan for

      You can get that.

      ATT, Verizon, and others have a policy that you cannot use certain phones on their network without a data plan. They will automatically upgrade you to a data plan, even if you would rather use your phone with WiFi.

      That's possible with AT&T at least. Head to your local big box store, pick up one of AT&T's Android Go phones. While the phone's quick start card says to "enable" the phone via the phone, if you do it that way it automatically signs the phone up for a smartphone plan...you don't want that.

        What you do is enable the phone online at the go phone website. Doing it that way lets you choose a non-smartphone plan even with your smartphone.

      Frankly, I would like an Android device with no non-Wifi data functionality, that the phone companies would classify as a dumb phone.

      I use one of these:
      http://www.amazon.com/AT-Z998-...

      In EXACTLY the way you describe with THIS plan:

      http://www.att.com/shop/wirele...

      Basically I buy a $25 card every 3 months.

    29. Re:What is it you want again? by antdude · · Score: 1

      Also disable other features like background apps. Not everything need to be on when your phone is asleep. I also notice using camera seriously use a lot of battery juice on iPhones.

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    30. Re:What is it you want again? by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Doing it that way lets you choose a non-smartphone plan even with your smartphone.

      I already have a plan with several phones on it at $10/Extra line with unlimited texting and hundreds of shared minutes that are not completely used every month.

      Clearly dropping a line and getting a GoPhone .10/minute plan with $0.25/Text is insanely expensive; each line easily sends 50 texts a month, possibly more, so that's an extra $13 to $20 a month.

      The idea is to have a phone the existing SIM card can be swapped into without incurring an extra $10 or $20 a month in additional recurring costs.

    31. Re:What is it you want again? by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      You can buy packages of texts with go phone. 200 for 4.99.

  3. NOKIA by Tyrannosaur · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Those things really are indestructible. I would hop on Amazon or ebay and pick up a used one. Definitely worth it.

    If that is not an option, then I would go something candybar. Every phone I have seen broken that had moving parts broke at the moving parts.

    1. Re: NOKIA by rHBa · · Score: 1

      3310 obviously

    2. Re: NOKIA by fisted · · Score: 2

      The 3310 wasn't nearly as indestructible as the 3210.
      Anyway, the actual brick was the 6150. The first GSM phone to use an ARM processor, and a convenient blunt weapon for self defense.

    3. Re:NOKIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I use my nokia 1600 since 2006 with a simcard from 1999. I still got 10 day on a single charge.

    4. Re:NOKIA by antiperimetaparalogo · · Score: 3, Informative

      When (some decades ago) i was serving as a conscript in the Greek SP my unit was tasked to use as a "long period test" what was destined to be the regular army's new personal radio communication equipment - with that as my personal experience i can claim that yes, Nokia are indestructible: i have my heavily (ab)used 6303 for 6-7 years now, this thing works and looks like it was new - if i was ever going to war, that's a phone i would take with me... plus, it can be useful if you ran out of bullets... or if you ever need a hamer!

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    5. Re:NOKIA by unrtst · · Score: 1

      My vote would go to the Motorola Motofone F3.
      It's a very thin GSM candy bar format phone with an eink display.

      Many Nokia phones were really good (or so I've heard), but I have little experience with them.

      I think my second choice would be to go back to my last non-smart phone - a Motorola Razr (I think I had the v3m version). Size, battery life, usability, durability, and voice quality were all very good.

    6. Re:NOKIA by mirix · · Score: 1

      I still use an E71 (from.. 2008?). Candybar with qwerty. Symbian so it's not as dumb as S40, but it's dumb by modern standards. I still get close to a week of battery life (on the ancient original battery).

      Makes good quality calls, has reception where all of my friend's iphones and androids don't... has real buttons.

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    7. Re:NOKIA by dywolf · · Score: 1

      i think my samsung go phone i bought at Target (SGH-487 something something) has surpassed my old nokia for survability at this point. but even if it breaks tomorow, so what? who needs to upgrade for a "free" phone and 2 year contract, when 10$ for a prepaid phone with a removable sim card is all it takes to replace a phone?

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  4. why? by koan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't especially want to give up a swiping keyboard, a decent camera, or podcast playback

    Then you're stuck, or get a tablet.

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  5. AT&T Z432 by OccamsRazorTime · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It looks like a blackberry, has a real keyboard, and can stay charged for 3-4 days while in use for texting. It has GPS, bluetooth, and web. but really not. I have this phone as a dumb phone...no data plan. It's pretty good.

    1. Re:AT&T Z432 by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      My iPhone 6+ lasts 4 days when reasonably used.

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  6. White Princess by NEDHead · · Score: 2

    Wall mount, plug in power block. Totally indestructible in either rotary or touch tone.

  7. Razr v3 by davydagger · · Score: 2

    Motorola Razr v3xx is probably one of the best handsets of all time.

    That said, its old, uses a now non-standard charge port, and all the hacked tools are no longer readily available.(Motorola PST, Qualcom's tool, etc...)

    1. Re:Razr v3 by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      Motorola Razr v3xx is probably one of the best handsets of all time.

      Which is why I still use my 7 year old Razr. The only problem I have now is that something is sporadically killing the jog-dial (not sure if it is mechanical or electrical or software), which makes a bunch of functionality impossible to use. Fortunately I have my wife's old Razr of the same era as a backup.

      As a bonus for my model Razr (depending on your paranoia) .. it also is pre-GPS chip E911.

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    2. Re:Razr v3 by aheath · · Score: 1

      The Motorola RAZR V9X is a really nice phone. It's more sturdy than the RAZR V3xx.

    3. Re:Razr v3 by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      The port's no longer standard, but still readily available, and it's not like regular USB (the other end of the cable) as a charging standard is going to disappear any time soon. I agree - the RAZR is an easy choice here: cheap, readily available, still an aesthetically attractive phone, good battery life. The only possible knock against it as a dumbphone is that it has a camera, which will keep you from taking it into a federal office building.

    4. Re:Razr v3 by RingDev · · Score: 1

      I bought my wife a Motorola Tundra. She doesn't want a smart phone, but she does want something that will get reception in the boonies and survive the rigors of horse back riding (or falling off said horse). I have seen that phone light up while at the bottom of a 3' deep creek, and she called me on it after taking a dive off a horse and was in need of an ambulance. So it passes my tests ;)

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    5. Re:Razr v3 by storkus · · Score: 1

      I still have my AT&T V3xx, and the charge port is a very standard mini-USB rather than the micro-USB that's standard now; however, it's still a USB device and will talk to your computer just fine. Oh, and this particular device was one of the first UMTS phones so it will still work when GSM is switched off. (I'm worried about my Nokia N900 in this regard since it only does UMTS on Band 4 AKA AWS 1.7/2.1 GHz.)

      As for the tools, I looked a couple of years ago, but not that hard, so not sure. I do know the open source tools that used to work with it haven't been maintained since the smartphone explosion (which also corresponded to the recession, so a 1-2 punch).

      Finally, a word to the wise: when the Batteries Plus guy says that you need to knock out a piece of plastic so his battery will fit, turn around and walk out. Since I punched that that tiny piece of plastic, the battery will not stay in and the door does not apply enough pressure to keep it in there. The case does, but only barely, and the back of the phone flies apart if I drop it. (On the plus side, the case works: the phone is still fine after all these years!)

    6. Re:Razr v3 by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      I had a V3xx that had a standard mini-usb port. Nice phone, the Moto wired headphones designed for it, suck so if you want to use it as a music player you really need a bluetooth headset, which the V3xx supports. It can handle many j2m3 apps.

    7. Re:Razr v3 by davydagger · · Score: 1

      it also is pre-GPS chip E911

      unfortunately no. all phones pull a satellite or two starting a generation before the razr as required by law(not user accessable). even with smart phones you can turn the GPS for the same effect.

      That said, cell network location is not exactly reliable. If you are in a major city, there can easily be half a million people in resolution radius. E911 is notoriously poor for location as well.

      Of course there are more ways to track you besides E911 which only activates durring a phone call to 911. Government backdoors like the ablity to turn on your phone's mic and listen are present in phones of this era.

      Even if you could find a phone with no spying capabilities, which is hard because all the GSM/CDMA chips are closed source, and every chip and ever device needs to be approved by the government, you'd stand out on the network as the only device without such capabilities.

    8. Re:Razr v3 by Tintivilus · · Score: 1

      Come now. MiniUSB isn't that unusual.

      hacked tools are no longer readily available.(Motorola PST, Qualcom's tool, etc...)

      You only need PST if you want to update the software, and there hasn't been an update for V3xx in quite some time. And Qualcomm never had tools for the V3xx, since there's no Qualcomm hardware in it. The V3xx was one of the last Moto phones with a Moto (Freescale) chipset. The only Qualcomm RAZRs were the CDMA ones.

  8. I want the same question answered clearly by MillerHighLife21 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What's the best dumb phone? I want calls, voice mail, text message and battery life. That's it.

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    1. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by Benwick · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I got a Samsung in the Ukraine for about $10 US at a phone stand in a mall. Once I figured out how to get it into English instead of Cyrillic, it became the most practical phone for travel that I've ever found. The screen is just old one-color LCD with a backlight. The battery lasts for weeks on a good charge. It sends old fashioned texts and makes phone calls with better sound quality than the fancy Android I use now. And I never have to deal with the whole phone "locking" thing US carriers have, I can just buy a new cheap SIM card wherever I travel.

    2. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by plopez · · Score: 1

      I have an old LG Cosmo 3. Everything you asked for is all I do with it. I need to replace it though as the screen is now getting too scratched up. I think they still make them. Though I might upgrade to a Kramer.

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    3. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      Casio G*Zone One. Doesn't even have a camera.

      Verizon likes to pretend they don't stock them, but they do - corporate clients buy that model all the time for their delivery drivers.

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    4. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by JazzLad · · Score: 1

      How does a one colour LCD work?

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    5. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by Benwick · · Score: 1

      It's just a big solid mess, ok?

      Technically the liquid crystals are one color.

    6. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by Benwick · · Score: 1

      Actually, I was wrong. It is a color display. There's no particular reason for it to be a color display, since you're not going to use it to do anything interesting, but it is.
       

    7. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by msauve · · Score: 1

      Each pixel is either a color or black, which is the absence of light (color). That wasn't so hard to figure out, was it?

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    8. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by RavenLrD20k · · Score: 1

      Old LCD tech only had 1 color that would only show up when the pixel was energized, causing the film to become opaque at that point in the grid. If it wasn't energized, there was no color as the film would be clear. Two available states, one displayable color. (Nice try at being a pedantic fool.)

    9. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by Benwick · · Score: 4, Informative

      It is a Samsung GT-E1080i. Mine's a different edition from the ones I'm seeing online because it has Cyrillic (and English) on the keys. But who cares. You can get one for $4 + another $4 S&H off eBay right now. It'll be the best $8 you ever spent.
       

    10. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by camperdave · · Score: 1

      When you apply electricity to the liquid crystal, the color appears. When you remove it, the color disappears. It's quite simple, really.

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    11. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Motorola made an e-Ink candybar phone for India at one point, is that still around? Would it be useful in any other countries, given the frequencies? It was supposed to have more or less best-ever battery life, like a month of standby or something nutty like that, and days of talk time.

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    12. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by 14erCleaner · · Score: 1

      You can get a Tracphone flip phone from Walmart for $15, and service for $10/month (50 minutes). If you don't like it, well, you haven't even reached the one-month unlimited charge for most providers and you can start over. Not the best network (AT&T) but it'll work in cities and along major highways.

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    13. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by 14erCleaner · · Score: 1

      Correction, it's actually Verizon, which has a very good network. A good deal if you don't call much (20 cents/minute), or Verizon has $35/month unlimited plans if you need more.

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    14. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by WSOGMM · · Score: 1

      I have a crackberry look-alike that gets the job done -- it was $60 at radioshack.

      I'd say a flip phone, probably the razr, is the best option. I often butt-dial people with my crackberry (or it tries to dial 911 if it's locked).

    15. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      Senior phones are great, though the latest ones are 'feature' phones. The 2 that I bought worked on an old Nokia menu system, but had no arrow pad and a crap tiny colour screen.
      I recommend looking at the Huwaei G series if you can still get the non-feature version. Some have metal construction. Looks like a small blackberry and very tough.

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    16. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      If you don't call much and don't need a great network, t-mobile's $3 a month for 30 minutes (+10 cents/min beyond that) is a lot cheaper.

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    17. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Changing the transparency does not mean there are two colors. In fact, the LCD doesn't play with the color at all, just the polarization.

      Oh, and I got the joke

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    18. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately the motofone is dual band so you have to pick which you use. Most are of the European frequencies but US frequency models are available from what I've seen. I bought mine while I was visiting the UK and was hoping it would be quad band. I still keep it around for the occasional visit.

    19. Re:I want the same question answered clearly by CronoCloud · · Score: 1
  9. Related Question?!? by Known+Nutter · · Score: 2

    That related question that the editors added to the OP's question is going to screw the thread up.

    They are hardly related -- and were obviously written by separate individuals.

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    1. Re:Related Question?!? by msauve · · Score: 1

      That would be timothy, the editor from hell.

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    2. Re:Related Question?!? by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      That would be timothy, the editor from hell.

      I know think of him as [southparkVoice] Timmie [/southparkVoice]

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    3. Re:Related Question?!? by Ecuador · · Score: 1

      Not just separate, one is at least mildly retarded.

      Oh, sorry, "special". TIMMY!

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  10. Model 500 by hawguy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My parents still have one of these in their house, and it still works fine (even if dialing is tedious):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Since it's around 50 years old and still working, I'd say it's the best dumb phone.

    1. Re:Model 500 by OS2toMAC · · Score: 1

      Don't call it dumb. Maybe it just made some bad investments, and it's retirement fund is gone, so it needs to still work. At 55 I've got similar issues.

    2. Re:Model 500 by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      Since it's around 50 years old and still working, I'd say it's the best dumb phone.

      I second that as I still using my Touch-Tone Model 500 (Bell System Property, Not For Sale) I've had since 1980s (even has same phone number label from where I used to live). Another thing to note this phone is so rugged it can survive getting dumped in water, dropped from tables, chock a runaway railway car, and withstand a nuclear blast at 50 yards (OK so I made up the last two).

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  11. Nokia... still by larwe · · Score: 2

    Actually for this set of needs, take a look at the Nokia Lumia 635. Dirt cheap (off contract), good battery life, FM radio inbuilt, and no huge app store full of loads of apps to distract you with complexity (#iceburn). Seriously, I have a few of these on the bench at home for development work, and I recently replaced my in-laws' several-year-old flip phones with 635s. At the time I purchased them I believe they cost $59; they're now $49 (AT&T GoPhone variant).

    1. Re:Nokia... still by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      That's still a smartphone (even if it is running Windows Phone).
      Not bad on the battery specs for a smartphone, though.

    2. Re:Nokia... still by larwe · · Score: 1

      Sure, but if you read the OP, you see that it's quoting an earlier post seeking dumbphones, and asking if there are smartphone answers.

  12. Re:Extended battery by An+Ominous+Cow+Erred · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In my experience, Mugen makes the best extended batteries (both in size and performance).

    Of course this is not useful if your phone does not have a replaceable battery (e.g. iPhones). But in general any popular phone with a replaceable battery will have extended batteries made for it. You just put the extended fat battery in then use the provided replacement back panel that includes an enlarged area to hold the new fat battery.

    I *always* get this for my phones because I get sick of having to remember to charge them.

    http://www.mugenpowerbatteries...

  13. Fire whoever wrote that summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The summary 100% contradicts the entire point of the article.

    The comments are just going to be noise.

    1. Re:Fire whoever wrote that summary by msauve · · Score: 1

      Rumor is that timothy is a Turing test which has failed to match human intelligence.

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  14. Just researched this for my kids by Bill+Hayden · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've done a lot of research on this, and the Nokia Asha 501 is the best dumb phone I've found: http://amzn.to/1HncbcC

    I purchased it because it was the most smartphone-like phone on which AT&T does not require a data plan (my definition of dumb phone, yours may vary). The battery lasts a few days when using it mostly for music and internet, or a couple weeks (!) when using it for calls only. It's small, but not too small to be useful. With it's built-in WiFi, it's the only dumbphone that I know that will do Facebook, Youtube, Twitter, Email, and even a small number of games.

    This is not going to touch any iPhone or Android phone by a long shot, but for the price it does pretty well.

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    1. Re:Just researched this for my kids by Nutria · · Score: 3, Informative

      Sounds like a feature phone.

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    2. Re:Just researched this for my kids by Bill+Hayden · · Score: 1

      As I mentioned in my original post, the definition of dumbphone varies. Any phone that doesn't require a data plan is a dumbphone in my book.

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    3. Re:Just researched this for my kids by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      I purchased it because it was the most smartphone-like phone on which AT&T does not require a data plan

      You can use AT&T smartphones without a data plan:

      http://mobile.slashdot.org/com...

      I've had 2 AT&T android go phones I've used that way, a Fusion and a Z998.

  15. I always like the 5190 by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Personally I always like my old Nokia 5190 built like a tank, it made phone calls, and with the Li-ion battery instead of the NiMH it would go almost 2 weeks on a charge. That said I gave up on non smart phones recently as the last time I needed to replace my phone the only non smartphones available at the store were the flip phone model that went to shit on me in 8 months that I was replacing and the display model for a candy bar phone that they were otherwise out of stock of. I don't play "angry flappy craft" or tweet about my latest bowl movement from the stall at work but I do like the ability of my current phone to accept a huge SD card filled with my music and that it can run Navit but other than that one program I could do everything I currently do with a simple dumb phone.

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    1. Re:I always like the 5190 by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 5, Funny

      tweet about my latest bowl movement from the stall at work

      Instead of tweeting about bowl movements, you should get the maintenance folks to tighten the mounting bolts.

    2. Re:I always like the 5190 by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      Never had that phone but it looks like one I would have liked. What replaced my Nokia 5190 was the Nokia 6010 and I had that until it died (it got crushed a few too many times working on vehicles) and went with the flip phone that only lasted 8 months.

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  16. Noia E6 by aglider · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's a smartphone with great battery life. 4/5 days to me.

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    1. Re:Noia E6 by aglider · · Score: 1

      But it's still working great with 4/5 days battery and occasional Internet access. Can you do it with anything newer?

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    2. Re:Noia E6 by peacefool · · Score: 1

      You mean, Nokla E6?

  17. Two tin cans and a string! by rstanley · · Score: 1

    Imune to NSA evesdropping! ;^)

    1. Re:Two tin cans and a string! by camperdave · · Score: 1

      A laser aimed at the string can pick up the vibrations. Immunity gone.

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    2. Re:Two tin cans and a string! by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Well... I suppose you COULD do it like that... but my way, you get to play with lasers!

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  18. For multi-day use: Galaxy S4 + giant battery by hojo · · Score: 1

    I love this phone combination:

    1) Samsung Galaxy S4
    2) Ginormous battery from ZeroLemon or equivalent

    Cost: $300 for phone, $40 for the battery (current Amazon prices) so total is modest at $340

    Great phone, lasts me for 3-5 days with moderate to heavy use, and will run any Android stuff I can think of. I use Cyanogenmod on mine, you might choose stock or some other variant, but this thing is quite durable and lasts forever.

  19. s5 by kamapuaa · · Score: 1

    In ultra power saving mode, a galaxy s5 will last two weeks, with very good call quality. Plus it cash become a supercomputer if you find the need.

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  20. Nokia 108 - one month standby time by mrbill1234 · · Score: 2

    Available in single or dual sim - and an incredible 30 days (yes, one month) standby time.

  21. Nokia N73 by BlackHawk-666 · · Score: 1

    I'm still using the Nokia N73 I bought in 2006. It lasts about a week on a charge, but then again I don't really use it that often. I did have to replace the battery about 2 years back, but 7 years on a single battery seems fair enough. The only reason I'd give it up is the text on the screen is tiny and it's getting hard for my old bastard eyes to read it now.

    Maybe you should try getting a second hand handset of ebay?

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  22. Get an older phone? by ParanoidMonkey · · Score: 2

    People tend to keep their old phones and there's little reason why you couldn't just re-activate some else's. Perhaps ask a friend for his and use that older model? If that doesn't work for you, Walmart still has old style phones in their electronics departments... I feel your pain though.... I use a phone to communicate, not to look at mini-versions of Facebook. Also touch screens annoy the crap out of me (unresponsive and typo prone). I use a 6 year old Samsung slide phone ATM. Laziness and a physical keyboard is why I keep it. I can wait long enough to open my laptop if I want an "app".

  23. Re:third world phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I had a grey market Nokia 301 that was awesome...while it worked. 2 weeks battery life with moderate text and talking. I thought it was THE brick, if I was going to have one. Until it died 11 months later. Completely turning into an actual brick. Very un-Nokia like.

    I replaced it with a Cat B100. This thing is kind of nuts. As in throw it at a wall, take it whitewater rafting, and charge it weekly..That kind of nuts.

    So I would have OP look at the Cat B100. It isn't designed by them, but some UK OEM that 'house brands' phones for CAT and JCB.

  24. Samsung T245G by lfp98 · · Score: 2

    Pretty dumb phone, although with some effort you can browse, text, even take crude pictures. If you choose the right plan at Tracfone and keep to less than 1 minute a day, you can get by for ~$5 a month. Of course at home I wouldn't use anything other than my genuine Western Electric rotary-dial.

  25. Nokia 515 by Sara+Chan · · Score: 1

    Several months ago, I spent many hours researching the same question, and eventually settled on the Nokia 515. I got the phone, and am very happy with it.

  26. phone watch by millette · · Score: 1

    I just bought the Exelvan MTK6260A phone watch (2G) and it's great! Battery lasts 4-5 days, 1-2 days when using bluetooth a lot.
    http://www.amazon.com/Excelvan...

  27. Blackberry bold by netsavior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you want a smartphone that isn't a smartphone, I am assuming you want to avoid the app infrastructure of apple and google? I have no idea what your actual goal is, but blackberry solved this ages ago. What you really seem to want is a smartphone from before iPhones ruined the market for practical smartphones.

    I submit to you: Blackberry Bold
    insane battery life (remember BB was competing with dumb phones not smartphones, so the charge every 8 hours thing hadn't started yet) - 12 days standby 6 hours talk, 50 hours audio playback
    camera, sure it has a decent camera
    Insanely good Keyboard that openly laughs at "swipe" keyboards.
    Podcasts, sure
    costs about 80 dollars now.

    1. Re:Blackberry bold by danbert8 · · Score: 1

      I agree. The 9930 was the best phone I ever had. Rock solid with no need for a case, touch screen up top, keypad on the bottom. Excellent camera, simple interface, did everything I wanted without all the stupid games.

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    2. Re:Blackberry bold by ldpage · · Score: 1

      Agreed, I had a 8820 for years, and quite frankly I would still be using it if I had not switched carriers. The phones were ruggedly built, easy to use, and the battery lasted a couple days under heavy use. Not to mention the battery was replaceable. Now I curse at my Iphone for the poor battery life, useless email client, and updates that break things. But hey, I can watch Netflix on my phone!

    3. Re:Blackberry bold by afidel · · Score: 1

      The trackball was the weakness of the 8820, any of the later bold models with the optical trackball would be vastly superior from a reliability standpoint.

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  28. best phone: WEco 520 desk model by swschrad · · Score: 1

    you didn't say wireless phone...

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  29. Re:Extended battery by desdinova+216 · · Score: 1

    my phone doesn't have a removable battery you Insensitive clod!

  30. I need a flip phone with wifi hot spot by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    then just use my laptop/pad for anything resembling internet usage.

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  31. Samsung Rugby III by thirdpoliceman · · Score: 3, Informative

    I really enjoy my Samsung Rugby III. http://www.samsung.com/ca/cons... It has a memo feature that is handy, a calendar, and each feature can be locked or kept open depending on your preference.

  32. Re:best phone: WEco 520 desk model by TWX · · Score: 4, Informative

    For POTS lines I prefer the Western Electric 2500 or 2554 depending on a tabletop vs wallmount application. They were designed when the phone company owned them and they were leased with the service, so they were overdesigned to last decades. Nearly every phone in my house is one of these two models.

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  33. Any old nokia business model by 0dugo0 · · Score: 1

    Currently using the 2700 c-2, none of the advanced features ever get in my way, it survives kids throwing with it and has great battery life.

  34. Huawei y 530 by Tyr07 · · Score: 1

    Is a smart phone, runs android 4.2, lasts over a week if only dumb phone features are used. 100 or so dollars.

    Obviously how much you talk on it like a dumb phone matters, if I don't use it much I can get two weeks

  35. Technology evolves. Move on. by Guspaz · · Score: 1

    Wanting a feature phone makes about as much sense as wanting an old wooden phone with a separate earpiece and the cone that you have to shout into. Technology doesn't stand still, and most feature phones are going to have poor reception since they won't support any of the newer networks. For example, Bell Canada's network is HSPA+, and does not support 2G GSM at all.

    With smartphones available for forty to fifty bucks (like the Lumia 530), feature phones just don't make sense.

    1. Re:Technology evolves. Move on. by MtViewGuy · · Score: 1

      Completely correct. Current cellphone networks often no longer support the older digital cellular standards used by older smartphones, and you're better off with a lower-end smartphone like the Lumia 530 you mentioned.

    2. Re:Technology evolves. Move on. by LihTox · · Score: 1

      I have a flip phone* with T-Mobile, no data plan, and I spend maybe $50/YEAR. Because I hardly ever call anyone on it, and I don't text. I have an iPod Touch which I use on WiFi.

      Also, my flip phone is tiny, and I can drop it without worrying about the screen cracking.

      *Mind you, I'm not a big fan of my current phone, which I got for cheap at Toys-R-Us, and I'm reading this topic with interest. My original flip phone was from Samsung and it lasted forever.

    3. Re:Technology evolves. Move on. by infolation · · Score: 1

      Except it's less likely the authorities can hack into your dumb phone's operating system and download secret utilities to activate the microphone and camera without your knowledge.

    4. Re:Technology evolves. Move on. by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 1

      It is not a matter of the phone price, it is a matter of the monthly plan fees. Dumb phones with prepaid plans can be used for next to nothing. Smartphones need data plans and those cost just way too much, even the prepaid ones. The problem is not with the technology or the initial purchase cost, the issue is with cost of operation. And in that category dumb phones are tremendously cheaper to operate than any smartphone!

    5. Re:Technology evolves. Move on. by Guspaz · · Score: 1

      Smartphones don't need data plans. They work just fine on voice-only plans.

  36. Re:Extended battery by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

    I *always* get this for my phones because I get sick of having to remember to charge them.

    Why not just charge it at night? If that's hard to remember you can do what I do and use it as an alarm clock, then you end up checking it every night anyway.

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  37. Makes me think of mech keyboards by blueshift_1 · · Score: 1

    Dumb phones are sort of like mechanical keyboards. Robust, archaic technology that works really well for what you need it for. However, they don't have as many flashy lights and can be a bit annoying for some around when you type on them - and in the end are going to rise in price because there isn't enough demand for them.

  38. Cheap Kyocera by gtwrek · · Score: 1

    Get any of the cheap Kyocera. They're indestructible, and inexpensive (~$20 new). My S2100 last easily 2 weeks per charge. Probably closer to 3 with a new battery. I like the flip better than the candy-bar style as I'm abusive with electronics that I carry around. I think the flip protects the screen more...

    No keyboard, no touch. Yes, I need to hit '1'-'1'-'1' for C, etc. when TXTing. But I hardly ever send TXTs, so it works for me. Calls are fine.

  39. Re:Extended battery by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

    I looked into one of these (can't remember which brand now) for the Samsung S5, and all the reviews said the new replacement back sucked, wasn't waterproof like the old one, and worst of all, killed the speakerphone functionality because they didn't bother putting a hole for the microphone I think.

    Your suggestion sounds good in theory, but in practice it seems like the replacement back/battery makers do a lousy job with engineering. It's too bad the phone makers themselves don't offer OEM batteries and matching fat back panels.

    Plus, it doesn't help that the trend now is to eliminate removable batteries altogether. The S5 was the last Samsung with one; the S6's battery is non-removable. It seems that most consumers are just too stupid to appreciate removable batteries, and only care about how thin a phone is, and really don't care how long the battery lasts. Apple was right.

  40. Phillips Nexium by Trachman · · Score: 1

    Phillips Nexium is a winner, in my view.

    Batteries last almost one month, of course less if you will be talking nonstop. Some models have slots for 2 sim cards, some can have three sim cards.

    No need to waste time monkeying around with the smartphone.

    1. Re:Phillips Nexium by LihTox · · Score: 1

      You mean Xenium? I googled Phillips Nexium and got a bunch of links for allergy tablets. :)

  41. LG Tracfone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    i love my LG Tracfone - i charge it, then only turn it on when i need to send a txt msg or make a call or use its calculator in the store - a full charge lasts MONTHS this way - oh, and the price? yep, $49 a year with pay-as-you-go and rollover minutes and triple minutes for life... the phone was $39.95, has a flip QWERTY, takes pics, plays music, etc. - what's not to like? Smartphones are overkill for me, but then again, i'm the type to sit on my front porch and yell at the neighborhood kids to 'Get the hell off my lawn!' :-)

  42. Re:Extended battery by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

    Yeah, that's another complaint I read about somewhere. That would make it completely useless to me; one of my primary uses for my phone is for navigation.

  43. Blu phones by xleeko · · Score: 2

    I'm happy with the low end Blu phones. $20 for an unlocked dual sim phone on newegg. They have dozens of models. I use a candy bar, my wife texts more and used the blackberry style. Run a full week on a charge, and basically bulletproof.

  44. Moto Razr by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 2

    Best dumb phone I've ever had. I still have one that travels with me for using cheap burner chips. Dead reliable and still available for around $40.00 new.

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    1. Re:Moto Razr by Black+LED · · Score: 1

      My backup/travel phone is a Motorola VE66. It's a solid slider, being made out of a significant amount of metal. Technically it's a smartphone because it runs MotoMagx. It will run Quake II and ScummVM (among other various other things), but it has the long battery life and quick response of a dumbphone.

  45. I have a Motorola W385 flip phone by duckintheface · · Score: 2

    It's 8 years old. I don't know if you can still buy them. It has had one battery change about 3 years ago and works great. It's a CDMA phone on the Verizon network. I pay $5.94 (including tax and fees) per month for 20 minutes of talk time. I have disabled voice mail and text messaging on the phone. So the phone rings and I talk, but not for long. In an emergency I can make calls... short calls. That's all I need in a mobile phone.

    I should mention that I have a google voice number that rings my cell phone and my computer (Google Talk/ Hangouts). With a Plantronics headset, that computer-phone is the best sound quality I've ever had on a phone call. And it's free assuming you already have a wifi connection. Google records voice mail and allows free texting. So I have all the features of a quality smart phone for a very low cost.

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  46. Lg 'slider' phones here.. by kesuki · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Lg 'slider' phones here.. by kesuki · · Score: 1

      that link includes smartphone sliders. http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-VN271-extravert is the verizon popular 'feature' phone

  47. Samsung t139 by Teckla · · Score: 1

    Samsung t139. It costs about $15 to $20 brand new (unsubsidized). I spend $5 to $10 per month on minutes (T-Mobile).

  48. cheap BLU phones by rwa2 · · Score: 2

    I've been getting a bunch of BLU phones for the kids for about $20 - $30 a pop.
    http://www.amazon.com/BLU-Unlo...

    They're by no means nice phones, but they have a good feature set, and we haven't had any problems with them that weren't caused by dropping them into puddles or sending them on a ride through the laundry machine.

    BLU also has a slightly larger one with a full Blackberry-like keyboard for texting that also has a broadcast TV receiver instead of just FM radio.

    1. Re:cheap BLU phones by TMB · · Score: 1

      Yeah, we have 2 of these in our family, and they're fine. I do find that mine loses connectivity faster than other phones at low signal, but I mainly use it as an emergency phone (I still don't get the point of cell phone culture, never mind smartphone culture) so I don't really mind.

  49. AT&T 210M Trimline by tlambert · · Score: 1

    AT&T 210M Trimline; no battery needed, it gets it's power from your landline so it works in a power outage, never has reception issues.

    Hey, if you are going to be retro-technology boy for no good reason, might as well plug your phone into the wall while you are at it.

    1. Re:AT&T 210M Trimline by 0xdeaddead · · Score: 1

      Is it made out of bakelite? I hope it has a dial, none of this DTMF crap either!

    2. Re:AT&T 210M Trimline by tlambert · · Score: 1

      Is it made out of bakelite? I hope it has a dial, none of this DTMF crap either!

      It has DTMF, but there's a switch to make it pulse dial instead of using tones.

      PS: Do you perhaps live in St. George Utah? I know for a fact they installed an exchange with stepper relays instead of DTMF decoders a while back, and since they amortize equipment over 20 years, the thing's still inservice.

  50. Answer to the related question... by tlambert · · Score: 1

    Answer to the related question... "What smart phones out now are (or can be reasonably outfitted to be) closest to a dumb phone, considering reliability, simplicity, and battery life?".

    That's easy: any of them that you don't install all of those crappy, battery-sucking Apps on, and turn off polling for push notifications from Facebook, email, and so on, so they they aren't constantly running the battery down because then they can actually get the application processor into sleep state once in a while without some stupid polling interval waking them up to use more battery every few picoseconds.

  51. Motofone F3 by jeti · · Score: 1

    The Motofone F3 is dirt cheap, light, compact and lasts long on a charge. It features an epaper display that is perfectly readable in full sunlight and is always on. It's quite convenient to be able to read the time without pressing the power button first. The disadvantage is that the segment display shows only a few letters at a time. If you want to do any amount of texting, it's too inconvenient.

  52. Why bother? by Powercntrl · · Score: 1

    Really, the only advantage to a dumphone is the inexpensive cost to replace it, should it become lost or broken. Most non-contract wireless providers with a "bring your own phone" option are perfectly happy letting you use a cheap plan on a modern flagship smartphone, so being a Luddite won't save you much on your monthly wireless bill.

    Regarding battery life, the main reason smartphones don't have the endurance of dumbphones comes down to how people use them. If you turn off mobile data, WiFi, Bluetooth and background app refresh, even an iPhone 5 can go a week on standby. You could also just buy an extended battery, portable USB pack, car charger, solar charger, etc.

    I suspect this is more about longing for the "good old days" when people didn't expect you to be reachable through e-mail and at least 3 different social networks. Sorry, but using a dumbphone won't bring those days back.

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  53. Nokia 1616 by rkww · · Score: 1

    Nokia 1616 with a 1020mAh battery lasts more than ten days.

  54. Re:best phone: WEco 520 desk model by mirix · · Score: 1

    I kinda prefer the 500 (like 2500 but dial), little more classy. Not very good when calling a robot that needs you to press "1" for something, though.

    Still have one, but killed the landline some years back now...

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  55. $7-per-month service by GPS+Pilot · · Score: 2

    If you're like me, it's the expense of your talk, text and data plan that you dislike, not the features of a smartphone.

    I pay $20 every 90 days to Virgin Mobile (works out to $6.67 per month). I'll upgrade to a smart phone if and when the price of a plan that includes a reasonable amount of data drops to $15 per month. Until then, I'll make a mental note of what online content I'd like to consume, and wait until I get home to consume it.

    Calculate the annual cost of your cell phone plan; do you find that having instant gratification of your online desires is worth that cost? Not judging; just curious.

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    1. Re:$7-per-month service by jittles · · Score: 1

      If you're like me, it's the expense of your talk, text and data plan that you dislike, not the features of a smartphone.

      I pay $20 every 90 days to Virgin Mobile (works out to $6.67 per month). I'll upgrade to a smart phone if and when the price of a plan that includes a reasonable amount of data drops to $15 per month. Until then, I'll make a mental note of what online content I'd like to consume, and wait until I get home to consume it.

      Calculate the annual cost of your cell phone plan; do you find that having instant gratification of your online desires is worth that cost? Not judging; just curious.

      Yes. For $50 a month, I get unlimited everything and free tethering. When I am at the airport, or a crappy hotel, etc I can tether my laptop and still get work done.

    2. Re:$7-per-month service by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      I pay $20 every 90 days to Virgin Mobile (works out to $6.67 per month). I'll upgrade to a smart phone if and when the price of a plan that includes a reasonable amount of data drops to $15 per month.

      I have a smartphone without a data plan, I pay $25 every 3 months to AT&T. I'd upgrade to a data plan when it doesn't cost 5X as much. Currently the cheapest AT&T data plan is $45.

  56. Nokia 2720 fold by uncle+slacky · · Score: 1

    It's served me well for about 4 years now - still gets about 10 days on standby from a full charge on its original battery. SO & kids all have Samsung feature phones (not sure of the model - they look like Blackberry ripoffs) that take up to 64Gb MicroSD cards and seem quite happy with them. They're still on sale for around â90 (though sometimes on offer for ~â60) and seem to be in short supply, so I assume they're popular.

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  57. Moto Fone. by crackerjack911 · · Score: 1

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...

    Low power, only two openings with a sealed keyboard. e-ink display. Two week battery life. Get one!!

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  58. Nokia 3410 mobile phone by paj1234 · · Score: 1

    I have two. One to charge one of the three spare batteries. The other to use all the time. The battery lasts for days. The LCD black/white screen is readable in direct sunlight, like a Casio digital watch. The feel of the buttons means I can operate it without hardly looking at it. I dropped it onto tarmac while cycling. The front and back came off. I snapped the three pieces back together and it still worked. If I do break it, another costs £10. The mobile reception is good so it can make calls when others cannot. When the numbers wore off the keypad, a new keypad made it look much better.

    The Nokia boom mic headset HDB-5 is a little masterpiece, it fits neatly on the ear and it can be plugged in by feel alone. Yes, the wire gets tangled sometimes but with no battery to go flat, it is better. For cycling, the mic end in a small piece of black foam trimmed to shape keeps the wind noise out. The stopwatch, alarm clock and calculator are useful. Certain callers I have assigned custom ring tones to, so I know when certain people call without having to look. I hold down a number button to dial certain numbers, for example, I hold button 1 for voicemail and 2 for home.

    The only problem with this phone is when the keypad is unlocked, if I start dialling a number straightaway it will 'forget' the first few digits dialled and then I have to try again. There is a delay of about 2 seconds after unlocking the keypad before a number can be dialled manually. If I use the speed dial eg 2 for home then this doesn't happen.

    Apart from that, it is in my opinion an almost perfect design. I like the Unix philosophy of small tools, where each does its job very well. I see no reason to ever have any other mobile phone for calls and text messages.

  59. Don't want a data plan? Too bad. by tepples · · Score: 2

    The problem with using a Windows Phone is that AT&T will probably still make you pay for a data plan that you don't use.

    1. Re:Don't want a data plan? Too bad. by larwe · · Score: 1

      Yes-ish. If you activate it with AT&T, you can get a plan with no data in it. But data isn't DISABLED on the SIM, so if you accidentally use any, you'll pay at PAYG rates, which I'm sure are ludicrously high. I believe with other carriers you can get prepaid SIMs that have no data capbility. Good point though.

    2. Re:Don't want a data plan? Too bad. by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      The problem with using a Windows Phone is that AT&T will probably still make you pay for a data plan that you don't use.

      Only if you activate the phone via the phone itself, if you do it online you can have any plan you want. As I told you...two years ago in this reply:

      http://mobile.slashdot.org/com...

      You seem to lack the ability to update your information and keep harping on the same old axes you grind when your info is outdated and/or simply wrong.

    3. Re:Don't want a data plan? Too bad. by tepples · · Score: 1

      I must have missed #42780933 the first time. Saved. Thanks for reminding me.

  60. You could try John's Phone by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

    http://johnsphones.org/

    except no swiping, etc. just a phone.

  61. Plus the cost of a useless data plan by tepples · · Score: 1

    100 or so dollars.

    Plus how much per month? AT&T forces "smartphone" users to buy a data plan.

    1. Re:Plus the cost of a useless data plan by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      Stop spreading incorrect info.

      http://mobile.slashdot.org/com...

      You need to start learning to update your information rather than researching something once and parotting outdated info like a robot years later.

      Things change. How many times have I said to you, something like

      "That's not entirely correct." or "That's outdated information there"

  62. Tethering by GPS+Pilot · · Score: 1

    Now the tethering thing would have value for me, if it would allow me to shut off the expensive DSL service to my home. Is that realistic? Who's your provider, and what kind of speed/reliability do you get?

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    1. Re:Tethering by jittles · · Score: 1

      Now the tethering thing would have value for me, if it would allow me to shut off the expensive DSL service to my home. Is that realistic? Who's your provider, and what kind of speed/reliability do you get?

      Depends on the conditions, but I can usually get about 20Mbps. I'm on T-mobile, but I would not recommend using it for any serious surfing. For one thing, my phone gets hotter than a $2 pistol after about 20 minutes of tethering. Plus, I try not to abuse the ability. T-mo is the only provider that just doesn't care if people tether. I think if that were abused, they might change their tune.

      Anyway, the service is reliable for me, I have excellent coverage. T-mo has spotty coverage in some areas, and along some rural highways, particularly in California. The latency can be pretty high, though.

    2. Re:Tethering by GPS+Pilot · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the info. I checked with T-Mobile, and the $50/month plan gives you 1 GB per month of 4G data. If I understand correctly, after you reach that limit, your phone continues to work at some slower data rate (how slow, they don't say) and your tethered devices stop working altogether. (Is that consistent with your understanding?)

      So for that reason alone, I think this is a no-go as a replacement for my home DSL service.

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    3. Re:Tethering by jittles · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the info. I checked with T-Mobile, and the $50/month plan gives you 1 GB per month of 4G data. If I understand correctly, after you reach that limit, your phone continues to work at some slower data rate (how slow, they don't say) and your tethered devices stop working altogether. (Is that consistent with your understanding?)

      So for that reason alone, I think this is a no-go as a replacement for my home DSL service.

      They may not offer the plan I have anymore. It was $30 for unlimited data and text and 100 minutes of phone calls per month. I signed up for that years ago, before they became the "uncarrier". It was also a pay as you go plan, and not one of their contract plans at that time.

  63. Re:best phone: WEco 520 desk model by TWX · · Score: 1

    I still have a Model 500 around here somewhere. As a teenager I had modified it to allow me to record telephone conversations to cassette tape.

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  64. Battery savings by pbjones · · Score: 1

    too many variables. If you choose a big name provider then there are more cell towers and lower power required by the phone, thus longer battery life, and put it into flight mode at night, or turn it off, for even longer battery life. No-one ever calls while you are asleep. :-) remove all but essential apps, except messaging and phone, turn off bluetooth and Wifi, and there you have a smartphone made dumb. You didn't mention a need for CDMA, 2G, 3G or 4G, which may limit your choices.

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  65. Motorola v190 series by choprboy · · Score: 1

    I have had a couple Motorola v19x series for the better part of the last decade (v190, v195, v197). A fantastic dump phone if you want great battery life, great reception, and durability.

    I have carried as many as 3 different phones at the same time... with a single exception, the v19x has always had signal where the others do not. Battery life is 10-14 days standby, 6-8 hours talk time. Actual numbers, not marketing baloney, I've been stuck inside a client building on a continuous 7 hour call before, debugging failed routers while talking to remote techs, while on a v195 with wired headset... the phone was still had battery life to go.

    The only complaints are:
    1) Battery replacements - after about 3-4 years of use the LiIon batteries swell and lose significant capacity. Most of the replacement batteries offered out there are actually 3-6 year old NOS which the seller won't tell you.
    2) Several of the T-Mobile firmware versions suck, focused far more on trying to get you to buy ringtones/songs/crappy web access than concentrating on being a phone. The one I have currently is significantly less obnoxious.
    3) Its now considered a long obsolete model and close to impossible to find new... Yet you can not find a single current phone that comes close in terms of battery life and signal quality.

  66. Get one with USB by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

    Old phones can be good or great (even the Motorola F3 is kind of old already) but the chargers problem is a plague, and you might want one to leave at one and one to carry with you. Having the wrong size of "samsung plug" or worse sony-ericsson is frustrating.
    It's still an option but if you choose to go with a new, recent dumb phone, there are ones with USB - real, micro-USB. So you're set with just one USB charger at home, and on the move you'll easily find a micro-USB plug at friends's and family's, and you can always bring one with you (if only a USB to micro USB cable) if you really need it. No special USB either, you only have to care about 500mA current.

    You will typically get internal SD card slot and 3.5mm jack output on these phones, though you can ignore those features. FM radio is useful (perhaps not in the US if I believe the comments on some stories)
    Nokia 215 is such one phone, but it's a not-quite-dumb one with a mini browser baked in (okay..) and a facebook app (and twitter) baked in the firmware.. Crap! if that's what you want go for it maybe. But there are other, dumber phones. e.g. Wiko Lubi 2 and Lubi 3 (present in only some markets, including UK)
    Well, have a quick look at what's available, brands vary by region but USB is becoming standard. Samsung seems to be an outlier.

  67. I hope it's made out of bakelite by 0xdeaddead · · Score: 1

    Seriously, slashdot TECH news. Dumb phones? get out of here with that backwards crap. Who even makes voice calls?

    What is next, who makes the best black and white tube TV with only UHF pickups?

    Perhaps a review on banging rocks together.

    dumb phones. Get out of here grandpa!

    1. Re:I hope it's made out of bakelite by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 1

      Hey, hey, watch out who you call "grandpa" here. I gladly ditch my dumb phone for a smart one when you pay for the insanely expensive data plan. Choosing a dumb phone is not so much a matter of technophobia or age, but plain and simply cost. You twens with tons of excess cash will learn that soon enough once you have family and own a house...or is that too old school for you as well?

  68. I like Quantico by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 1

    The motorola Quantico or the kyocera dura XT are the dumbphones I've carried - I like riding my motorcycle year round - phones like those can take shock, water, being thrown against a wall and still work.

    I've owned both and while I liked the Quantico better - US Cellular moved out of my region so I was forced to the dura XT on Sprint.

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  69. Why dumb phones suck by ignavus · · Score: 2

    Thing is, I don't want to make or receive phone calls or text messages!

    I hate them.

    The only reasons I own a phone are because a smart phone is a small handheld computer that can surf the net, play games, play music, show movies, and do other useful tasks (alarm clock, exercise timer - even flashlight). And a smart phone can act as a modem for my laptop to connect to the internet.

    So ... remove the smarts - the data, the computer-like features, the hotspot - and all you have left are the two things I don't want: phone calls and SMS.

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  70. BlackBerry Bold 9000 / 9700 by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

    Somewhat a smart phone but with wifi disabled, data disabled, 2g mode enabled, you can get from 7 to 12 days out of it.

    Good reception too, it's definitely the new Nokia dumb phone.

  71. Can't hardly find a dumb phone anymore by Pfhorrest · · Score: 1

    My mom is unfortunately on my phone plan because she can't manage her own finances well enough to pay for a phone herself.

    Last November she lost her closest-thing-to-a-dumb-phone-I-could-get-her. It would still do web stuff, but... in a very dumb way, like "smart" phones before the modern (iPhone/Android/etc) smart phone era did. I simply could not get her a phone that only make phone calls, but that was close enough for those purposes.

    And then she lost it, and I had to replace it. I wanted the cheapest goddamn dumbest simplest most basic phone possible. All she wants or needs to do is make phone calls. She doesn't give a flying fuck about texting or internet or anything! (Or she didn't at the time, and I wish it had stayed that way). All. She. Needs. Is. A Phone. But to get her a "dumb" (not even, like before) phone would have actually cost me more than their cheapest generation-or-two-old smart phone, a Galaxy Mini S3. Now she's fucking addicted to it and sucking up all the data (that I barely even use) on my plan.

    What the fucking fuck has happened where it is simply impossible to get just basic phone service without paying more for it!?!?

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    1. Re:Can't hardly find a dumb phone anymore by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      Why not import it? If you can't get a dumbphone in the US (and you're on a GSM network) then you can probably order one easily from UK, or Hong-Kong/Shenzhen or perhaps France, Netherlands etc. on ebay or the like.

  72. John's Phone by Fish+(David+Trout) · · Score: 2
    "John's Phone" is just a simple cell phone and nothing more:

    http://www.johnsphones.com/store/item9

    No GPS. No web. No chat. No texting. No apps. No operating system at all, to speak of.

    All it can do is make phone calls and receive phone calls. That's it.

    It's the ultimate dumb phone.

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  73. NOKIA 301 : great battery life by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

    it's a pretty simple phone but it has a battery that has a 39 days standby time and 20 hours of talk. of course these numbers depend on if you are in a place with a few or lots of overlapping cell tower signals.

    check it out: http://www.microsoft.com/en/mo...

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    1. Re:NOKIA 301 : great battery life by gpoul · · Score: 1

      Indeed; I just looked this up several days ago and I'd be very carful with the Series 30+ phones that Microsoft Mobile is currently releasing. Although they're cheap and nice for a second phone, they're priced appropriately for what they are, which is not much in terms of even basic dumbphone features.

      The Nokia 301 and the Nokia 515 are probably the "last" good dumbphones out there, and they're available as single and dual-sim... all the others either have problems with the address book sync, are not at least triband, or have some weird issues with connecting to in-car systems with bluetooth (although that last point was only my impression after reading reviews on the web, but not car manufacturer is testing dumbphones anymore :-/)

  74. I miss not being spied on by Morrighu · · Score: 1

    My new smart phone tries to phone home to Facebook (which I don't use from my smart phone to conserve the battery), Instagram (which I also don't use), my cell carrier, Amazon, Samsung, and whole host of others. I'm tired of having to kill stuff, root my phone to disable it, and just generally not be able to uninstall the crap-tastic carrier force-fed apps. Now, thanks to something called Digital Turbine, carriers can now force your phone to download and install apps. Oh yea, and it eats into YOUR data cap when they do it. Some carriers will allow you to remove the apps but others don't. It'a all enough to make you want to go back to a flip phone......

  75. Dumb PhonePontchartrain by SenseiTim · · Score: 1

    I have a Kyocera Jax S1360. It works great, and the battery lasts more than a week per charge.

  76. Dumb phones are invaluable when travelling by lissnup · · Score: 1

    I take my very basic HUWAEI dumb phone with me on any journey just for the battery life and ease of sending text messages. The menu options include very useful notes, calendar, and alarm. It has also web access and camera but I have little use for them.

  77. Samsung S150G "Candy Bar" by Kizul+Emeraldfire · · Score: 1

    I'm rather happy with the little Samsung S150G "Candy Bar" phone that I picked up at a dollar store; it was on sale for 50% off, so it only cost me $5.

    The only down side to it is: I have to buy prepaid Tracfone service cards (which have either 60, 120, 200, or 400/450 minutes and 90 extra days of service, or a 1 Year (of extra service) and I think it was 700 minutes), of which the smallest minutes-denomination is available here at the low price of $19.95. (I think the 1 Year cards are about a hundred dollars. I usually get the 120-minute cards, though; they cost about $40, if I recall correctly.) But on the other hand, my phone comes with automatically-doubled minutes for life, so there's that.

    It's also not a flip-open phone, so the screen gets smudged and smeared every time I make a call — but it's easy enough to clean it off.

    As far as battery life goes: I have its display set to the dimmest setting (and only rarely increase the brightness), and I have the display set to turn off after five seconds; sound profile is almost always set to 'Silent' with no vibration.

    I leave my phone on all the time (though I don't often use it), and it lasts for about a week — if not a day or two longer — before I have to charge it. It also only takes about two or three hours to charge.

    I've noticed an odd quirk with it, though: if you cross from one Time Zone to another, you have to turn your phone off for a while (maybe as long as an hour or two, but I've never timed it) and turn it back on — otherwise, upon crossing into the new Time Zone area, the phone will constantly report "No Service", even if you ordinarily would have service.

    The phone has Internet access, but it's slow, and also terrible because the screen is (for websites, at least) tiny — plus, it costs minutes to access the Internet; I personally view it as a waste of minutes, but perhaps others might be handy in an emergency or something.

    It doesn't come with a data cable, unfortunately, but the phone has a MiniUSB or MicroUSB port in the top (usually for the charger(s), or the earbud that I never use); I've borrowed a friend's Kindle Fire HD's USB cable and it fit perfectly.

    I think it's a good phone, though. I can call people when I need to, and — if I really need to — I can text people (for a cost of 0.30 minutes per text (or, in English, 18 seconds — but the phone instead shows the silly fraction)). I rarely have problems with service anywhere — the only times I have really had problems with service was when I was crossing Time Zones, and also inside a friend's house that is apparently a Faraday cage for cellular phones (and, in their words, said house is "made of middle fingers" — it's a pretty terrible house).

  78. Smartphone contracts are just too expensive by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 1

    I have two dumb phones that I rarely use, mainly meant for emergencies or travel once or twice a year. One is an old Nokia phone with a old T-Mobile prepay plan. When I got the phone I bought minutes for 100 bucks and whatever minutes are left roll over if I buy new minutes before they expire. I string that plan along for years now and it costs me 10 bucks a year. Sadly, T-Mobile no longer offers this plan (boooo!) and solely for that reason I went with an LG 530G from TracFone. They offer a similar plan that T-Mobile has, but it is not as low cost. The LG phone also has a web browser, but I never used it because it eats minutes like there is no tomorrow. It is not entirely dumb, but all I care about is voice service. I prefer a flip open phone, but they tend to be more 'expensive', I think for either phone I paid 20$ with promos and coupons. That is about as much as I am willing to spend on a mobile phone. The Nokia phone has FM radio in it, but I never used it. I also see no need for FM, but others might. If you are looking for bargain bin pricing without signing a contract and are interested mainly in voice service then the LG 530G from TracFone isn't a bad choice. It has a full keyboard and that is surprisingly easy to use despite the microscopicly small keys. There are also plans out there, that charge a flat fee for each day you use it. If you use the phone a lot only during a few weeks out of a year then that might be the cheaper option. I'd get a smartphone if it wasn't for the ridiculously expensive data plans. I wouldn't even mind to drop 200$ for the phone if the monthly access fees would be around 20-30 $ for unlimited service on everything. Still, I'd see it more as a toy that I splurge on than a necessity. There really isn't anything important enough I'd need to get to online that cannot wait until I am back at home. Besides that, who the heck wants to surf the web on a tiny screen anyway?