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Student Photographer Threatened With Suspension For Sports Photos

sandbagger writes: Anthony Mazur is a senior at Flower Mound High School in Texas who photographed school sports games and other events. Naturally he posted them on line. A few days ago he was summoned to the principal's office and threatened with a suspension and 'reporting to the IRS' if he didn't take those 4000 photos down. Reportedly, the principal's rationale was that the school has copyright on the images and not him.

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  1. Unless it was part of a contract..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Unless photography rights was part of a contract (either student handbook or admission ticket), the principal is smoking crack and has no claim to them.

    That said, the kid is probably a minor and can not enter into binding contracts without parental consent.

  2. Re:OK, we've seen this before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is true. There is another side to this. The school is so afraid of being sued they create lawsuits trying to 'fix' the issue. So he used that excuse to go on a powertrip over a kid. Working on the yearbook... Which makes you think was one of those 4k the principal doing something he shouldnt be?

  3. Re:Force his hand..."Sue me! Sooner than later..." by countSudoku() · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is this "evil student" charging, or making ad revenue, for views of said photos? Is the lighting on campus somehow owned by the school district and they forgot to charge for it? Just have some CS students wipe out the principal's iPhone, and he'll have something more important to do than not understand Fair Use media.

    I'd say put them under a password and then not offer them to the yearbook crew. Everyone copyright your memory! Let's copyright old cigarette butts and empty bags of potato chips! IP is IP!

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  4. Re:Force his hand..."Sue me! Sooner than later..." by taustin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you bothered to read the article, or the summary above, you might notice that there's no threat of a lawsuit, only of a suspension. The burden (and expense) of filing a lawsuit would be on the kid (and his parents). And while they might win, odds are, they couldn't possibly hope to recover the $100k+ in legal fees.

  5. Re:Force his hand..."Sue me! Sooner than later..." by FranTaylor · · Score: 5, Interesting

    there's no threat of a lawsuit, only of a suspension.

    if there is no threat of a lawsuit, which is the only legal mechanism that the school can use to have the pictures taken down, then the school would not have threatened the kid with suspension. The suspension is not a legal relief for the posting of the photographs, a lawsuit is.

  6. Re:OK, we've seen this before by sycodon · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It is becoming clearer and clearer every day that our schools are run by absolute morons. You know the kind I'm talking about. They manage to reach their Peter Principal level and proceed to be incompetent in all areas.

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  7. Re:Force his hand..."Sue me! Sooner than later..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    As a native Texan, if push comes to shove, the principal can have the kid arrested... and in school, all charges pressed are adult charges. Yes, there are elementary school students with felonies on their rap sheets because they got an "obstruction of justice" charge when a school cap tells them to shut up and they don't.

    It is extremely easy to get arrested in a Texas school. Get the runs and the coach refuses to let you go to the bathroom, so you crap your pants? Felony hazardous waste spill. Of course, marijuana can mysteriously appear in the kid's locker, even though the same bag was once mysteriously was in the school's evidence room.

    Remember, in Texas, possessing more than four dildos is a felony here.

    My advice: Follow the parent's advice and appeal to the school board. Pissing off the principal can get him to easily call in the SWAT team and throw so many charges at the kid that they will bury the kid -under- the jail... and here in Texas, if a judge doesn't maintain their conviction ratios, the private prison lobby will make damn sure the next judge will come election time.

  8. Re:Camer was owned by the school by rahvin112 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Which is the reason there was recently a story about a photographer that claimed copyright on a photograph that a monkey took of itself using the photographers camera. There was no copyright on the photograph because the one that took the photo isn't eligible for copyright.

    Just as in this case, even if the school owns the camera, the paper and all the developing gear the student still owns the copyright. The only possible way the school could even hope to claim copyright would be by declaring that the student was doing work for hire. Needless to say the courts aren't going to look on that line of thought very highly given the lack of paycheck and the compulsory nature of school.

  9. Re:Streisand Effect by VorpalRodent · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Where is the line between having a spirited discussion on how an administrator can lack common sense...and providing their contact details (regardless of how public they may be) to a public forum?

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  10. Re:Force his hand..."Sue me! Sooner than later..." by multimediavt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a former troublemaker, I never understood how suspension is a punishment. I considered a three day vacation from school to be supreme good fortune.

    You're, apparently, not the only one and why one of my English teachers got her Ph.D. on the concept of Saturday Suspension in the late-1960s, early-1970s, where you have to go to school on Saturday (or a series of Saturdays) as punishment. I really disliked Dr. Kershes!