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DNA On Pizza Crust Leads To Quadruple Murder Suspect

HughPickens.com writes: In a case straight out of CSI, CNN reports that police are searching for the man suspected in the gruesome slayings of the Savopoulos family and their housekeeper, after his DNA was purportedly found on a pizza crust at the scene of the quadruple murders. They discovered his DNA on the crust of a Domino's pizza — one of two delivered to the Savopoulos home May 14 as the family was held hostage inside — a source familiar with the investigation said. The pizza apparently was paid for with cash left in an envelope on the porch. The next morning, Savvas Savopoulos's personal assistant dropped off a package containing $40,000 in cash at the home, according to the officials and police documents.

The bodies of Savopoulos, along with his wife, Amy, their 10-year-old son Philip and the family's housekeeper, Veralicia Figueroa, were discovered the afternoon of May 14 after firefighters responded to reports of a fire. D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier says the killings are likely not a random crime and police have issued an arrest warrant for the 34-year-old Daron Dylon Wint, who is described as 5'7 and 155 lbs and might also go by the name "Steffon." Wint apparently used to work at American Iron Works, where Savvas Savopoulos was CEO and president. The neighborhood is home to numerous embassies and diplomatic mansions as well as the official residence of Vice President Joe Biden and his wife. "Right now you have just about every law enforcement officer across the country aware of his open warrant and are looking for him," says Lanier. "I think even his family has made pleas for him to turn himself in."

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  1. Well... by Greyfox · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's what you get for fucking a pizza. I'm just assuming that no one would actually put Dominoes pizza in their mouth. That would be disgusting.

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    1. Re:Well... by AK+Marc · · Score: 5, Funny

      They should have finished the crust. People who don't eat the crust go to jail.

    2. Re:Well... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      They should have finished the crust. People who don't eat the crust go to jail.

      According to several news sources, he has been arrested, so, yes, he will be going to jail. Especially if the DNA matches.

    3. Re:Well... by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Then I suggest finding a real Italian restaurant with a real wood-fired oven, making thin crust pizza at high heat, and with good quality toppings.

      Things like Dominos and Pizza Hut? Well, they're pretty much the most nasty form of disgusting greasy pizza known to man.

      If you're using those as your benchmark for pizza, you're doing it wrong. Just like if you're using McDonald's as a benchmark for what a good burger should be.

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    4. Re:Well... by HughPickens.com · · Score: 2

      If you click on the first link in the story it says that the suspect has been arrested.

      However at the time the story was submitted (May 20, 7:20 pm CST) the suspect had not yet been apprehended. Same link, different story.

      This is something I have seen news operations do before that I really don't agree with. They keep the same URL but they change the content of the story.

      If a news organization changes the content of the story I think they should put an "UPDATE" at the end of the original story to reflect the changes. The NY Times does this when they make a correction or an update to a story.

      Another alternative is to issue an entirely new story with a new headline and a new URL and keep the original story and URL archived for historical purposes.

      One thing that I like about Wikipedia is that you can go back and look at the history of an article to see when changes are made and find out how the article looked at any specific date. I wish news organizations would use a similar methodology to track changes they make to stories.

  2. Lots of filtering I suspect by Centurix · · Score: 3

    "We found DNA from 12 different people, a cow, three different pigs, a chicken, genetically modified pineapple, tomato and yeast. Only one of these lived in the house."

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    1. Re:Lots of filtering I suspect by Cramer · · Score: 2

      Statistically, that "cow" (ground beef) would be from ~200 cows. Sausage could be as few as one, but much more likely to be just as "processed" as the cow. Ham or Canadian Bacon might be from a single animal, but I seriously doubt Dominion's uses anything from the "quality" side of the market. The chicken is the only thing likely to have been from a single chicken -- unless they used "McNuggets", which is entirely possible. ("mechanically separated" is the term used.)

      (There are some "how it's made" shows that shouldn't be watched.)

  3. Captured! by dark.nebulae · · Score: 3, Informative

    They're reporting he's been captured in Washington, DC.

  4. Machine learning? by Etherwalk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A small percentage of African slaves were brought to the USA.

    From fewer than 400,000 slaves came over 37 Million.

    The USA's reward for being a minor player in the trade and allowing its slaves to greatly increase in number is everlasting pay-back.

    Are these crazy comments a product of naive machine learning algorithms?

    Or code used for illicit communications?

    Any ideas?

    1. Re:Machine learning? by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 2

      when attempting to understand something pathetic and useless

      Actually, I found it rather interesting to consider -- given that African Americans are so fond of shouting oppression. Yet they seem to have flourished here rather well, with plenty of opportunity to advance in society, have many elected officials and business leaders and finally, even a President.

      Just because you don't like a statement that may be made inappropriately does not mean it's completely without merit.

    2. Re:Machine learning? by antiperimetaparalogo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Are these crazy comments a product of naive machine learning algorithms?

      Or code used for illicit communications?

      Any ideas?

      I have some ideas.

      The Savopoulos -Savvas, his wife Amy, and their 10 years old son Phillip (luckily, their 2 daughters, Abi and Katerina, 19 and 16 years old, were not in the house)- is a Greek-American family that (along with their 57 years old El Salvadorian faithful maid Veralicia Figueroa) were, all together, tortured and murdered by someone who cannot freely be called sub-human... because of his race - so, as a contribution to the discussion and to the American society (in which both Abi and Katerina will live - understand this before anyone accuse me for posting "racist facts"):

      USA, 2013 - Arrests by Race - Black

      Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter: 52.2%

      Robbery: 56.4%

      Population by Race - Black : 13.2%.

      sources: FBI - CENSUS

      * Both Abi and Katerina will honor their parents and their little brother (plus, their faithful maid) by living in the American society as their family teached them... o Theos na anapausi tis psixes ton Sabba, Amis, Phillipou, kai Veralicia - Abi kai Katerina, zoi se logou sas.

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  5. Re:Rich Family Dies, World At Peril!!! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ghetto? No DNA testing required...case closed.

    Even in the Ghetto, a multiple murder in cold blood would be thoroughly investigated. But it is obvious you aren't a real SJW, because these days the real SJWs are complaining that the cops spend too much time focusing on crimes in the ghetto.

  6. Re:Rich Family Dies, World At Peril!!! by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 3, Insightful

    FFS -- the slaughter of an entire family of any background would cause outrage and a thorough investigation. You're a real fucked up piece of shit to look at this act of cold blooded brutality and denigrate the victims by making it all about your angst-ridden political agenda.

  7. Re:Americans have no loyalty by penguinoid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Where do you live, that someone who murdered a whole family can rely on his family to become his accomplices?

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  8. DNA by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

    DNA On Pizza Crust Leads To Quadruple Murder Suspect

    Police are searching for a tomato.

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  9. Re:Rich Family Dies, World At Peril!!! by tburkhol · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Even in the Ghetto, a multiple murder in cold blood would be thoroughly investigated.

    Say what you like, but it certainly seems clear to me that progress in criminal investigations happens much faster when moneyed or attractive people are involved. Like Atlanta police managing to capture a serial killer days after he shot a white woman, but months after he shot a bunch of homeless guys.

    In DC, where 2/3 killings goes unsolved, where DNA testing was suspend last month over 'inadequate' procedures, and where 15-20% of open cases have untested DNA evidence, they manage to test and return results from a pizza in under a week and arrest the suspect the next day.

    Seriously, if you think police apply exactly the same resources and intensity to the killing of Joe Biden's neighbor as to multiple kidnappings in Tremont, you're being naive.

  10. Re:Rich Family Dies, World At Peril!!! by ScentCone · · Score: 2

    Because there are more whites than blacks you fucking piece of shit.

    Do the math before you get so riled up, Mr. Coward. The numbers aren't even close to the population ratio, demographically.

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  11. Re:Well,what if it had been a poor neighbourhood? by BitZtream · · Score: 2

    Welcome to reality.

    We are not all created equal. We do not all have the same level of life. Deal with it.

    Yes, the people who make the laws (you know, the politicians who live in this neighborhood) do get treated differently, thats normal. Not treating them differently would be impossible, and you not understanding that shows a real lack of understanding of how people work.

    'Fairness' is an entirely human construct made up by humans to mean treating everyone the same. It does not actually mean treat them fairly.

    Nature treats life fairly. The weak die first, the strong carry the species on. I'm sorry that reality doesn't look good for you, but you have to be retarded to be so silly as to think this is ever going to be any other way. Everyone getting the EXACT same privileges will never happen. Not until we're all a bunch of clones who behave and perform the EXACT SAME WAY.

    Until then, man who worked harder to get power will get more privileges, just like I expect to get more when I work harder in my job.

    And for people like yourself, who slack off and whine about how someone else gets treated better than you ... well ... welcome to the rest of your life because while you're whining and bitching about it, the people who deserve better are working to make their lives better.

    All you're doing is whining and moaning, you deserve your lot in life.

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  12. Re:If the rich carried their fair share... by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So you're already attributing this to mental health problems? They guy worked for the company owned by the victim. This isn't a case where families like those of the victim (who pay the vast majority of the country's income taxes - well more than "their fair share" in terms of the income they make) somehow short-changed the guy who decided to murder them. The bad guy, in this case, decided to extort $40,000 in cash from his employer by holding the family hostage and torturing a ten year old boy until the cash was delivered by the employer's personal assistant.

    Your whole "this is the fault of rich people" narrative is a bunch of SJW BS.

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  13. Re:Rich Family Dies, World At Peril!!! by ScentCone · · Score: 2

    If you pick a black person and then pick a random victim, it's more likely the victim will be white than black, because there are more white people than black people.

    Then why are there more murders committed by black people (against all sorts of victims) then would be accounted for by their percentage of the population? What is your point, exactly? Yes, there are more "white" people than "black" people in the general population. That's not what's being discussed. What's being discussed is the rate of crime coming out of specific demographics.

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  14. Re:Rich Family Dies, World At Peril!!! by dj245 · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you pick a black person and then pick a random victim, it's more likely the victim will be white than black, because there are more white people than black people.

    Then why are there more murders committed by black people (against all sorts of victims) then would be accounted for by their percentage of the population? What is your point, exactly? Yes, there are more "white" people than "black" people in the general population. That's not what's being discussed. What's being discussed is the rate of crime coming out of specific demographics.

    Income inequality if the largest driver of murders. Homicide has a r=0.8 correlation with income inequality.. 10% of whites are in poverty in the USA, but 27% of blacks are in poverty. Poverty (income inequality), crime, and race are all related in the USA. That's not good, but it does open options because there are a lot more levers available to pull. Reduce minority poverty, and minority crime will probably drop too. There are lots of ways to do that, but it takes a huge effort to do so.

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  15. Parallel Construction by Fuseboy · · Score: 2

    Now, when I read stuff like this.. a little bird whispers in my ear: parallel construction.

    What's more likely, Wint's DNA was recovered from a pizza crust in a burning home, or law enforcement just happens to know where Wint's cellphone was during the time in question?

  16. Re:Rich Family Dies, World At Peril!!! by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Reduce minority poverty, and minority crime will probably drop too. There are lots of ways to do that, but it takes a huge effort to do so.

    So what do you propose? Use government power to force minority mothers to marry, and to force the fathers or children to stay at home, become educated, and care enough to raise children who will actually attend school? Are you saying that a kid who is born into a household with one young, under-educated parent is going to be starting out life with that disadvantage because other people aren't poor? Do you really think that places like Baltimore, which spend way above average per student on education, and have an endless parade of subsidies and programs to provide resources to people in poverty ... just need to have the government do more than is already being done?

    The problem is cultural. Persistent poverty in the worst parts of Appalachia, or in west Baltimore, don't exist because other people are prosperous. That entire meme is just SJW hand-wringing BS. Poorly disguised resentment of success that's trotted out to do anything to avoid addressing the cultural issues that are the actual problem in such places.

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  17. Re:Rich Family Dies, World At Peril!!! by stdarg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Of course police should apply more resources to high profile cases and areas where violent crimes are more rare.

    My safe neighborhood, with zero murders ever, pays as much (or more) into the police budget as a violent neighborhood that has multiple murders a year.

    If God forbid we do one day have a murder, I would expect cops to be all over that shit. We should be a much higher priority than the violent neighborhood because we've earned that priority.

    That said, cops are largely idiots when it comes to dealing with problem areas. I don't know why they tolerate them so much, except the cynical view that they are more interested in making money than stopping crime. A great example is prostitution... why are they the clients of prostitutes? To make money. If they wanted to end coercive prostitution, they would do this:
    1. Hire a prostitute
    2. "Do it"
    3. Refuse to pay
    4. Wait for the enforcer/pimp/whoever to show up and make a threat
    5. Shoot him (or arrest him)

    There are far fewer pimps than prostitutes and clients. So attacking the pimps is the logical way to end it.

    Instead their sting operations are to arrest the guys who DO pay as they're supposed to. WTF??

    They could do something similar with drugs:
    1. Buy drugs
    2. Refuse to pay
    3. Keep doing that
    4. Wait for core violent element of the gang to come attack
    5. Shoot them (or arrest them)

    But nah, they'd rather set up a sting and arrest a couple users, or maybe a dealer so they can confiscate his property... pretty ridiculous.

  18. Re:Rich Family Dies, World At Peril!!! by stdarg · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are plenty of majority places in the Caribbean, Africa and the Americas in which the crime rate is low and normal.

    Hmm, are you sure about that? Murder rates for the Caribbean:

    U.S. Virgin Islands: 39 murders per 100,000
    St. Kitts and Nevis: 38 per 100,000
    Guatemala: 38 per 100,000
    Colombia: 37 per 100,000
    Belize: 30.8 per 100,000
    Trinidad and Tobago: 35 per 100,000
    Bahamas: 27.4 per 100,000
    Puerto Rico (a Commonwealth of the United States): 26 per 100,000
    Mexico: 24 per 100,000
    Dominican Republic: 25 per 100,000
    St. Lucia: 25 per 100,000
    St. Vincent and The Grenadines: 22 per 100,000
    Panama: 22 per 100,000
    Dominica: 22 per 100,000

    That's compared to about 4.7 per 100k in the US, which is considered high for the developed world.

    I didn't bother checking African crime rates because I'm pretty confident you're wrong there.

    By "majority places" were you referring to really small places like individual neighborhoods or something?

  19. Re:How do you extract and identify by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 2

    DNA on pizza is just a cover story for a $HUGE_INVASION_OF_PRIVACY.

    e.g. they probably asked NSA/Verizon/etc whose cellphones were in the house in the last few weeks.

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  20. Re:Rich Family Dies, World At Peril!!! by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 2

    This perpetrator was a recent immigrant from Guyana, so you don't get to use the Slavery Excuse (tm) that always gets dragged out in cases like this.

  21. Re:Rich Family Dies, World At Peril!!! by JudgeFurious · · Score: 2

    There's actually nothing degrading about a handout. Nothing at all. I get so sick of hearing this bullshit. If there was no "subsistence and degrading handout" people who think it's degrading would be complaining that there wasn't even a system in place to provide these people with even a subsistence level handout. What's degrading is being satisfied with a handout. Coming to expect the handout and refusing to work hard to improve your lot in life is degrading and people bring that on themselves all the time. Before you take me to task for anything understand that I grew up as poor as anyone in the United States you can point to. Go ahead and find an example and I can most likely match them or put them to shame. My family lost everything when I was growing up and the one thing we didn't do was lay down and accept a handout. My mom refused food stamps when we could have used them. She never went on welfare and she only accepted unemployment grudgingly. She beat the fucking bushes for work and never gave up. My brother is the first person in my family to get a college degree and he did it working full time paying his way as he went. I have literally gone to work with a broken back (wasn't aware of it at the time). Fuck the poor who spend their lives crying about what they don't have and how unfair it is. Everything they could ask for is there for the taking in the US if they will just get up on their feet and work for it.

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  22. Re:Rich Family Dies, World At Peril!!! by ScentCone · · Score: 2

    Me on the other hand? I'm an island in a sea of indifference.

    Which is fine until you're killed by someone who irrationally thinks you're responsible for their poverty. Or your home loses half its value because a change in the local demographics means an encroaching street crime problem. Indifference doesn't change the problem you'll have renegotiating your upside down mortgage. But that's fine, you're much too cool to worry about such stuff.

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  23. Re:Rich Family Dies, World At Peril!!! by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2

    I am not sure I understand what your point is. Are you saying the sole cause of poverty in the black community is because they name their kids Darnell and Jamal?

    Or are you simply justifying bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior?

    My point is, people like you are the closet racist that you think everyone else is, simply because you keep telling black people that they can't make it without white help (and a huge dose of white guilt). The fact is, that kind of racist attitude is exactly where a large chunk of the problem is.

    When you actually see the racist remarks by liberals when a black person succeeds (see Ben Carson), then you'll understand the problem is Racism, it just isn't the kind you're expecting to see. 50 years of white guild progressive policies have decimated the black community.

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  24. Re:Rich Family Dies, World At Peril!!! by ScentCone · · Score: 2

    "Cultural issues" my ass, white boy.

    There are plenty of poor white people who are poor for their own cultural reasons. The fact that you think culture is the same as skin color shows what a confused person you are. Culture is about behavior, not pigment. Avoiding that reality is just more PC deflection on your part. Nice try. Well, not really.

    Poverty is caused by lack of money.

    No, it's not. Poverty is caused by not doing the things that make you prosperous. Certainly a kid born into a household where nobody does the things necessary to provide a prosperous environment is a victim indeed. The parents are the only ones responsible for that, period (yeah, yeah, we can make exceptions to that ... women who are raped and never the less bear the child, and don't take advantage of endless opportunities to allow the child to be adopted into better circumstances, etc).

    A kid born into a family where there is no culture of learning, or creativity, of movement towards the things that have lifted untold millions out of poverty ... that kid is poor because of the culture into which she was born. Not because there is no prospect for a comfortable life in the world, but because those prospects are being squashed by the local culture. In some cases, that culture is no larger than the single parent. Or it might be the size of a multi-generational household. Or a whole city block. Or an entire nation-state. But it's cultural, pure and simple.

    In order to avoid having to give up on your moral relativism and turn in your PC/SJW card, you'll pretend that you just read someone talking about skin color. The fact that you so reflexively resort to that perspective in order to avoid talking about the real problem is, ironically, a stellar display of either disingenuous, craven intellectual dishonesty (or just a juvenile lack of rhetorical skills) on your part, or the sign of someone who really hasn't thought this through.

    Address these things and poverty is reduced

    Ah, an "addressor" in our midst. Say what you, mean. Tear down people who have something so you can spread it around, right? No. Places like west Baltimore are saturated in lavish education spending, free or heavily subsidized transportation (and walkable blocks from places without even needing it), awash in grant money that's just looking for ways to turn abandoned properties into livable homes and viable businesses, and it's been run by people at the legislative and executive levels (since you're so obsessed with this) roughly the same color as those who live there. Health and legal expenses? Covered by taxpayer-funded medical care and legal clinics where you can hear the crickets chirping for lack of interest in use other than when someone's arrested for street crime.

    We've been "addressing" those issues, lavishly, for decades. Miles away, there's prosperity. In that spot? People living in fear of the local street gangs and those squatting in abandoned homes and businesses. Why? Because the members of those gangs, the thugs who make that area intolerable as a place to live or run a business, have safe haven, culturally, in the households in which they were so passively raised. Ask the people who live there, and they'll tell you that's exactly the problem. "Addressing" that problem means (ready?) not tolerating the crime. And that means police presence and activity. But we're being told, by the president no less, that what's really needed is a less visible and active police force. And indeed, the police in that area have dialed it way back in the last few weeks ... and surprise! The violence level, including murder on the street, has surged hugely.

    Just what you look for when deciding where to build your next fire-proof retail store, right?

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