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San Bernardino Sheriff Has Used Stingray Over 300 Times With No Warrant

An anonymous reader writes: After a records request by Ars, the sheriff in San Bernardino County (SBSD) sent an example of a template for a "pen register and trap and trace order" application. The county attorneys claim what they sent was a warrant application template, even though it is not. The application cites no legal authority on which to base the request. "This is astonishing because it suggests the absence of legal authorization (because if there were clear legal authorization you can bet the government would be citing it)," Fred Cate, a law professor at Indiana University, told Ars. "Alternatively, it might suggest that the government just doesn't care about legal authorization. Either interpretation is profoundly troubling," he added. Further documents reveal that the agency has used a Stingray 303 times between January 1, 2014 and May 7, 2015.

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  1. Are they LEOs by JonathanR · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is an apparent law enforcement officer (or group thereof) who is conducting their work illegally, really a law enforcement officer?

    1. Re:Are they LEOs by BlueStrat · · Score: 4, Funny

      Is an apparent law enforcement officer (or group thereof) who is conducting their work illegally, really a law enforcement officer?

      Nope, they are just Low-Earth Orbits then.

      Take from that what you can comprehend. Don't try to understand it. My head hurts.

      It's quite simple.

      They are acting as agents of State Security, or "SS".

      The SS operates without regard to laws or Constitutionally-mandated limits/restrictions to government powers. They believe as tyrants always have, that power comes from the barrel of a gun.

      At a 2008 "distressed investors" forum, Ron Bloom, appointed Senior Counselor to President Obama for Manufacturing Policy in September 2009, said:

      "Generally speaking, we get the joke. We know that the free market is nonsense. We know that the whole point is to game the system, to beat the market. Or at least find someone who will pay you a lot of money, 'cause they're convinced that there is a free lunch. We know this is largely about power, that it's an adults-only, no-limit game. We kind of agree with Mao, that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun."

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

      This mentality is not uncommon across government, especially the higher one looks.

      Strat

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    2. Re:Are they LEOs by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Funny

      They Enforce, they don't Obey. That would just be silly, because it would spell LOO, which is limey-talk for a toilet.

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    3. Re: Are they LEOs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That attitude isn't uncommon among business executives either. They also know that the name if their game is to lie, bribe, cheat, and steal because the one thing they can't stand is a fair society where everybody has a reasonable chance.

      That's why they buy governments, and of course we continue to elect officials who can be bought. You don't think the stingray devices are used anywhere in the country in support of investigations into corruption in government or business do you? They're used as part of continuing operations to keep regular people in line.

      This has got to stop.

    4. Re:Are they LEOs by Jack+Griffin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This mentality is not uncommon across government, especially the higher one looks.

      It is common across humankind, or even all animals in general. Looking out for yourself is a survival trait we all have. The whole idea that there is a Boogeyman (police/govt/terrorists/bankers/Bill Gate etc) is a myth. We're all the same, Milgram proved that. Given similar circumstances you or I would behave the same way, so let's stop perpetuating the stereotypes.

    5. Re:Are they LEOs by MrKaos · · Score: 4, Insightful

      At a 2008 "distressed investors" forum, Ron Bloom, appointed Senior Counselor to President Obama for Manufacturing Policy in September 2009, said:

      "Generally speaking, we get the joke. We know that the free market is nonsense. We know that the whole point is to game the system, to beat the market. Or at least find someone who will pay you a lot of money, 'cause they're convinced that there is a free lunch. We know this is largely about power, that it's an adults-only, no-limit game. We kind of agree with Mao, that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun."

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

      Moderated funny, of course because if you don't laugh about it, you'll cry. Big belly laughs instead of uncontrolled sobbing at realising that freedom and democracy were stolen right out from under our noses.

      Isn't this the thing the Second amendment was supposed to prevent? By all rights the US Government should be afraid of the American people, however this kind of thing shows they're not. Not that I have anything against firearm ownership however, I think more people should be armed with pens - they're more powerful tool where the state is concerned.

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    6. Re:Are they LEOs by Zumbs · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Isn't this the thing the Second amendment was supposed to prevent?

      As I understand it, the 2nd Amendment was supposed to ensure against invasion from the British Empire by keeping the population armed, so any attempt at invasion would allow the armed population to spark a popular insurrection.

      But it is really beside the point. A population is only able to stand up to oppression if it is organized, and in most advanced countries, governments and corporations are going to back down if an organized population demands change, e.g. Eastern Europe in the late 80s and early 90s. In most cases governments and corporations will just be biding their time, waiting for people to go home and settle back down into their lives, so they can roll back the concessions. A recent example is Egypt. Sometimes they will fight, but it is extremely dangerous, as there is no telling where it will end, e.g. Syria and Libya, not to mention destructive.

      Going back to the US, it should be clear for everyone that the US rulers have successfully managed to keep its population disorganized through a variety of techniques such as sowing distrust between its citizens, massive surveillance, union-busting, mass media and the stacked circus of democracy.

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    7. Re:Are they LEOs by Zumbs · · Score: 3, Informative

      We're all the same, Milgram proved that. Given similar circumstances you or I would behave the same way, so let's stop perpetuating the stereotypes.

      No, Milgram did not prove that we are all the same. Quoting wikipedia:

      In Milgram's first set of experiments, 65 percent (26 of 40) of experiment participants administered the experiment's final massive 450-volt shock, though many were very uncomfortable doing so; at some point, every participant paused and questioned the experiment; some said they would refund the money they were paid for participating in the experiment. Throughout the experiment, subjects displayed varying degrees of tension and stress. Subjects were sweating, trembling, stuttering, biting their lips, groaning, digging their fingernails into their skin, and some were even having nervous laughing fits or seizures.

      So, 100% of the participants knew that they were doing something wrong and spoke up. Some 35% of the participants did stand up to the authority figure and refused to follow their orders. As I remember it, the initial experiment was conducted on white middle class college students, so I would be very hesitant to use it to generalize anything about the rest of us.

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    8. Re:Are they LEOs by Nidi62 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Isn't this the thing the Second amendment was supposed to prevent?

      As I understand it, the 2nd Amendment was supposed to ensure against invasion from the British Empire by keeping the population armed, so any attempt at invasion would allow the armed population to spark a popular insurrection.

      I think the founders also feared the power (both militarily and politically) of a large standing army. If the US is invaded, armed locals operating as militia can either harry the invaders or supplement the small professional army for local engagements.

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  2. TIL about wiretapping without wires by rakslice · · Score: 4, Informative

    I always assumed that the exception to anti-wiretapping laws for pen registers was some kind of case law.

    But not only is 18 USC 3121 is a specific law about pen registers, looking at 18 USC 3127 and the definitions that are incorporated from 18 USC 2510 , it's clearly intended to include radio communications.

    For radio that's "readily accessible to the general public" the interception and disclosure rules have an exception, as you might expect, but no sign of that sort of thing in this pen register law.

    Cool.

    1. Re:TIL about wiretapping without wires by msauve · · Score: 5, Informative

      Note that Stingrays aren't just radio receivers. They mimic cell towers, and are also transmitters. They transmit on spectrum which belongs to the cell carriers, and they do so without a license or warrant. That's illegal.

      Also, cell frequencies aren't "readily accessible to the general public" - Congress has passed laws which specifically prohibit the public from accessing those frequencies and prohibits the manufacture of general purpose radios (scanners) which can receive them.

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    2. Re:TIL about wiretapping without wires by Marful · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In addition to everything you've said, they are also require an Unauthorized Access to a Computer Device which is a federal crime (Computer Fraud and Abuse Act), as pushing data and handshaking with the mobile device is part of the pairing process between a mobile device and a cell tower.

    3. Re:TIL about wiretapping without wires by MrKaos · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I always assumed that the exception to anti-wiretapping laws for pen registers was some kind of case law.

      I speaking from readings of Australian law as it seems we are on the leading edge of destroying the freedom and point of western democracies, however my understanding of the parallel US Act is that this right would have been repealed in the Patriot Act or another act shortly after that one. Specifically US law should now allow for wire-taps/voice-mail/sms and email surveillance without an 'interception warrant' regardless of any case law before 2001. I don't know for sure, but I'd be very surprised if US law doesn't allow the same. Of course it was only meant for Intelligence agencies to us against terrorist operations.

      It seems because we don't have a bill of rights like the US or UK the laws get framed here, tested, passed and then the US/UK take out the unconstitutional bits and pass that. I note that the fucked laws passed here because the population are largely apathetic, then they seem to make it to the US/UK lawmakers roughly a year later.

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  3. Short version ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Alternatively, it might suggest that the government just doesn't care about legal authorization."

    Either the company who sells this, or the agencies using this, have convinced themselves they live in a special area of law in which reality is as they have decided it to be.

    They do not care if other people say they have no legal basis for this, they either don't care, or believe they do have a legal basis for this.

    Which basically means law enforcement is in the hands of a bunch of idiots who don't know or care the law.

    American law enforcement have become like the police in a banana republic ... they'll do whatever the hell they wish, and if you don't like it, they'll probably try to find some way to abuse the law against you.

    But make no mistake about it, these people aren't going to obey the law unless until they find themselves under threat of being in a cell themselves. And then they'll just pretend to obey the law.

    Law enforcement now believes they can do anything they want to achieve their ends. Because they're idiots who don't know or care about the law.

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    1. Re:Short version ... by rmdingler · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Law enforcement is, first and foremost, a job not unlike the one you and I do. It is filled with employees of varying degrees of competence and honor.

      From the moment the young LEO is put into a cruiser to enforce traffic laws he himself doesn't have to obey, there is an expectation of the "rules do not apply to me."

      This is the way of it. Thanks to the FOIA, conscientious questioners of authority like Ars, and the Courts, we are not beholden to live in a police state unless we choose to sit around and accept it. Legislation to restrict the use of these Stinkrays has already been employed in Washington State and a bill is brewing in California.

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    2. Re:Short version ... by MrKaos · · Score: 2

      But make no mistake about it, these people aren't going to obey the law unless until they find themselves under threat of being in a cell themselves. And then they'll just pretend to obey the law.

      No, they won't. What they will do is prosecute the people who expose them under new anti-whistle blower provisions in the law. Then put those people in jail for daring to defend their country from domestic enemies spreading corruption through the system. If people can't realise the benefits of living with the rule of law, knowing that it applies to everyone, then eventually no one respects the law.

      Law enforcement now believes they can do anything they want to achieve their ends. Because they're idiots who don't know or care about the law.

      The people rolling out these laws aren't idiots. They know exactly what they are doing and what they want to achieve. We, however, have no idea what the end-game is.

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  4. San Bernardino County Resident by kit_triforce · · Score: 2

    "Alternatively, it might suggest that the government just doesn't care about legal authorization."

    As a resident of San Bernardino county (for 15+ years) who has personally known many members of the Sheriff's Department, I'd suggest that this is indeed the case. This county is the largest in the nation and has population widely dispersed throughout a vast majority of it's area, making deployment difficult. The attitude I saw most prevalent was one of "I don't care, just get it done". A perceived relative lack of equipment and manpower coupled with this attitude means that corners get cut and protocols are ignored.

    They do, however, and more often then not, get the job done.

    1. Re: San Bernardino County Resident by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      They do, however, and more often then not, get the job done.

      As documented here

    2. Re: San Bernardino County Resident by Locke2005 · · Score: 2

      Which points out a basic flaw of the system: taxpayers are punished for the law enforcement officer's failure to follow the rules, and the law enforcement officers themselves are apparently not held accountable for their own actions. Granted, people would be reluctant to work as police if they could be held personally responsible for any damage they cause, but couldn't we strike a better balance? Doctors are required to pay exorbitant sums for insurance to cover their mistakes, but police are bailed out by the state even in blatant cases of willful misconduct... something doesn't sound right about that. The advantage of making cops self-insured would be that eventually bad cops would find it too expensive to continue in that field, as their insurance rates would skyrocket after multiple claims.

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  5. I have the best punishment... by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    Set up a video camera and he get's tazed once for every time he violated the law. This video is posted to youtube.

    Scumbag cops like that dont care about fines, They need to be tazed in the scrotum. THAT they will understand.

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  6. Smith v. Maryland by russotto · · Score: 3, Informative

    According to Smith v. Maryland, Law enforcement doesn't need a warrant for pen registers, because people have no expectation of privacy in the numbers they called. That one decision has led to the entire NSA metadata collection, as well as unrestrained use of Stingrays and similar devices. Remember that next time someone sneers at the slippery slope.