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D.C. Police Detonate Man's 'Suspicious' Pressure Cooker

An anonymous reader writes: Yesterday evening in Washington D.C., police officers on routine patrol spotted an unoccupied car parked near the National Mall. They deemed it "suspicious," and took a look inside, where they found a pressure cooker. They also claimed to smell gasoline. The officers called the bomb squad, and at 7:45pm they initiated a controlled detonation of the car's contents. Afterward, a search of the car found no evidence that it contained explosives or any other hazardous materials. The car's owner was located and arrested for driving on a revoked license.

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  1. did they damage the car? by Chirs · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and if so, did they reimburse the guy?

    1. Re:did they damage the car? by russotto · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They broke the rear window and blew up the pressure cooker outside the car. Reimburse? No, they didn't reimburse him; instead they arrested him for operating a vehicle after license revocation, just to cover up for their incompetence. Obviously if a car belonging to someone has moved, it must be that person who moved it, right?

    2. Re:did they damage the car? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Paranoia, it's what terrorists want. It looks like they have thoroughly and completely beaten the government of the USA.

    3. Re:did they damage the car? by Known+Nutter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Obviously if a car belonging to someone has moved, it must be that person who moved it, right?

      Well, sure. If he told the investigators that he drove it there... which is not entirely out of the realm of possibility. But that doesn't fit it with the "every cop is an incompetent boob running around crushing the liberties of the citizenry" theory, does it?

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    4. Re:did they damage the car? by jvkjvk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh boy are you misguided.

      You can certainly unintentionally confess to a crime. Never talk to the police except through your lawyer.

    5. Re:did they damage the car? by adolf · · Score: 3, Funny

      Never talk to the police except through your lawyer

      ...especially when it involves a pressure cooker.

    6. Re:did they damage the car? by Calydor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's funny how there's more than one kind of terrorism, right?

      Terrorism is by definition actions meant to spread fear; it doesn't HAVE to be violent. It doesn't HAVE to be done by muslim extremists. It just has to make people afraid.

      Like the risk of having the police blow up (the contents of) your car because they (claim they) can smell gasoline. On a vehicle propelled by gasoline.

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    7. Re:did they damage the car? by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You can certainly unintentionally confess to a crime. Never talk to the police except through your lawyer.

      Thank you, Mister Rockefeller, but what about all the poor schmoes who don't have a lawyer on retainer? They shouldn't have to worry about being shaken down by the cops, either.

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    8. Re:did they damage the car? by ultranova · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't attribute to malice that which can be blamed on stupidity.

      The problem is, stupidity is sufficient. The police don't need to be actively malicious if their institutional culture - "the brainwashing they've been given" - constantly prompts them to perform unfair and destructive actions.

      Also, you're wrong. "Naturally enough, when they realized they fucked up they looked around for a way to cover their ass and saw the guy had a revoked license." Yes, it's perfectly natural to sacrifice a bystander to save your own skin. It's also not something you can blame on stupidity. It's deliberate, selfish cowardice.

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  2. No pressure by penguinoid · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you can't take the pressure, you shouldn't be a cop.

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    1. Re:No pressure by intnsred · · Score: 5, Insightful

      True, and accurately summed up decades ago by Orson Welles when he said, "A policeman's job is only easy in a police state."

    2. Re:No pressure by Strange+Quark+Star · · Score: 5, Funny

      I guess they just needed to let off some steam.

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  3. Okay... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "...an odor of gasoline was detected"

    In a fucking gasoline-powered car. Where do they find these geniuses?

    1. Re:Okay... by SpankiMonki · · Score: 4, Funny

      The pressure cooker should not have resisted arrest.

      Handles up - don't shoot!

    2. Re:Okay... by RDW · · Score: 5, Funny

      In a fucking gasoline-powered car. Where do they find these geniuses?

      Sure, but a pressure cooker? What is this, the 70s? Does anyone use them in 2015 for anything _except_ bomb construction and cooking meth?

      "Presto Stainless Steel Pressure Cooker (Large) - Customers who bought this item also bought: 'The Al Qaeda Manual' (Kindle Edition) / Potassium Nitrate (5kg) / Casio F-91W Digital Watch / '100 Things to do Before you Die' (Paperback - used from $0.01) / Pseudoephedrine (100 tablets) / 'The Little Book of Calm' (1 Collectible from $9.96)."

    3. Re:Okay... by dunkelfalke · · Score: 4, Informative

      They are awesome for cooking potatoes and stews.

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    4. Re:Okay... by tibit · · Score: 4, Informative

      You don't know much about how to cook, then. Do you think that suddenly, what has worked for cooking in 1970s, doesn't anymore?

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    5. Re:Okay... by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 3, Informative

      Cooking is subject to trends, if you haven't noticed. Clunky 70s housewife equipment is out of fashion, to say the least.

      Umm, while you may call it "clunky," pressure cookers are decidedly in fashion as an appropriate tool used for the right purposes. The cool, hip tech-savvy cooks use them along side their sous-vide machines and blowtorches for a number of important kitchen tasks.

      Need examples? Nathan Myrhvold's Modernist Cuisine (2011), one of the recent "bibles" of molecular gastronomy, lauds the pressure cooker, in a list of "invaluable modernist tools" called it "a must-have; essential for stocks, tendering tough grains and seeds," and also noted its usefulness for sterilizing in various kitchen tasks. (For some specific home applications, see, for example, here.) Harold Blumenthal at The Fat Duck restaurant found that stocks made with pressure cookers were both faster and better-tasting once they understood the effects of diffusion laws on stock making. And here's a whole blog on Slate about their comeback.

      I could go on. Pressure cookers may have been "out" a decade ago, but now they're back "in" again... best time to update your kitchen fashion files.

  4. I did not know... by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You need a license to own a parked car? Was he seen "operating" the vehicle?

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  5. Re:Mental Note by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If your license is revoked, don't drive with a pressure cooker.

    If your license is revoked, don't store a pressure cooker in your parked car.

  6. Re:i feel sorry for the poor guy. by itzly · · Score: 4, Funny

    blowing up peoples personal property because they have a pressure cooker.

    Well, apparently it was an explosive pressure cooker, because they managed to detonate it.

  7. Re:Not pointless... by kheldan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Pretty much this. "We fucked up and embarassed ourselves, so we're going to take it out on you because we can". That's what it reads like. Was the guy who owned the car black, too?

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  8. The arrest by davidwr · · Score: 3, Informative

    Assuming the cops had good cause to check his license, assuming there is little or no doubt about him driving with an expired license (maybe he foolishly admitted it, or maybe he was caught on camera), and assuming the offense is one that routinely results in arrest (vs. a ticket-and-tow as some jurisdictions do) then it's a good arrest.

    Without evidence that a motorist with a revoked license would typically only be ticketed (and towed), or lack of evidence that he was the driver, it's premature to claim that the arrest was done to cover up the other issue. The only legal tie between the two is that the suspicious car - or perhaps the driver's claim that the car was his car - gave the cops probable cause to check his license for validity. Other than that, they are separate and should be treated as such.

    Now, does there need to be an independent investigation to determine if these cops used prudent judgment (vs. "looking for trouble" "judgement") - yes. If they were not acting prudently, does the police dept. need to issue an apology and pay damages? Yes.

    Memo to self:

    If I drive a car without a license and park it, and I see police activity around my car, call a lawyer and have HIM arrange to recover the car.

    Memo to self #2:
    If my license is revoked, call a cab.

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  9. Re:i feel sorry for the poor guy. by Runaway1956 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Careful attention to terminology is important. In point of fact, they use an explosive charge of their own, carefully configured and arranged in a manner which they hope will touch off any explosive contained in the pressure cooker. Of course, the police spokesman used outlandish terms in her press release. They "disrupted" the pressure cooker? Jesus - I've never heard a military man use the term "disrupted". It's far more accurate when we say, "We blew it to fuck!"

    In point of fact, the cops detonated their own charge, but failed to cause an explosive reaction within the pressure cooker. Maybe they should have used a bigger charge?

    Idiots. Everywhere you look these days, idiots. Juvenile minded fools, trying to act like important people.

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  10. Re:Not pointless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not a crime to have your car parked somewhere if you have a suspended/revoked license

  11. Re:Not pointless... by mysidia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    but it would seem that the guy was driving on a suspended or revoked license

    He was not caught by police driving on a suspended driver's license: his car was parked at the time, so there should be no probable cause to arrest.

    Someone else can still drive the vehicle for him.

    Also, the police should have to pay for replacement of his vehicle and replacement of his pressure cooker, before he can be arrested. As I see it, right now: so far: the police have committed the bigger crime, which is wanton destruction of property.

  12. Re:Not pointless... by russotto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Also, given the area described, it was parked more or less in front of the Capitol Reflecting Pool, which is not an area where people tend to park and sit for long periods of time.

    Really? Then why was there a parking meter there?

  13. Re:Not pointless... by russotto · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Have you ever heard the expression, "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should?"

    Yeah, usually from authoritarians who think it's perfectly OK to enforce laws which they couldn't be bothered to actually enact.

    Fucking common sense says don't park your fucking car a block away from the United States Capitol with anything inside that could be misidentified as an explosive device.

    Like its gas tank?

    It also says you should keep your drivers license current and in good standing.

    It was revoked. Did you know that in the District of Columbia, the Mayor or his representative can revoke your license for any reason at all, and the only appeal is to the Mayor?

    You think they just cited him for that offense without checking to see that he was actually operating the vehicle?

    Sure, why not? Now they can leverage dropping that charge against his not filing a lawsuit for the damage to his car.

    He's not getting the book thrown at him in any of the media accounts I've read, he's getting the same treatment he would have received if he was pulled over for a routine traffic stop.

    I don't know about you, but I've never been pulled over for a routine traffic stop when I wasn't driving.

  14. Re:Okay... horseshit by RDW · · Score: 4, Funny

    So you want to encourage people to think those of us using them are out to hurt someone?

    You're doing the harm.

    The risks of terrorism and illicit drug production are only two of the risks of allowing this dangerous 'dual use' technology to be sold on the open market! A far more insidious problem is the destruction of essential vitamins in the pressure cooking process. Some of these are required for higher brain functions, like the ability to parse textual data for abstract meaning. In one recent study, over 70% of regular pressure cooker users were unable to detect irony, satire or even obvious jokes in posts on internet forums. The end product may be delicious but, like cannabis or Snapchat, the long-term effects on the developing brain can be devastating.

  15. Re:Not pointless... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Do you think quoting my post line by line makes you sound like less of an absolutist idiot? "

    Just accept the fact that he buried your ridiculous post, line by line, and exposed you as the idiot that you truly are :-)

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  16. Re:Not pointless... by russotto · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Did you know that in the District of Columbia, the Mayor or his representative can revoke your license for any reason at all, and the only appeal is to the Mayor?" No. Could you please point us to the law that authorizes mayoral driver's license revocation? (I'm betting you can't.)

    You lose. DC Code 50-1403.1(a) and (c).

  17. Re:Not pointless... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Republicans don't like the fact that Democratic Governor Brown put a tax increase on the ballot in 2012, a majority of voters voted yes (55.4%), and the state budget has a budget surplus this year and next year. That doesn't fit the doom-and-gloom narrative that California is on the verge of an economic collapse.

  18. Re:Not pointless... by russotto · · Score: 3, Informative

    Gasoline doesn't explode, it burns. Of course, as our resident expert in IEDs and Constitutional Law, you already knew that, right?

    Pressure cookers neither explode nor burn, unless you pack them with explosives. Gasoline vapor mixed with air, however, explodes. If you want to make a car bomb, you don't need a pressure cooker. Ask Dateline NBC.

    In New York State you can get expired registration and/or inspection citations while your car is parked.

    Yes, but you can't get driving on a suspended/revoked license citations while the car is parked. There's a difference: expired registration/inspection applies to the car, revoked license applies to the driver. If my license is revoked, it's still legal for me to allow anyone else with a valid license to drive my car, and it is still legal for the car (assuming its registration and inspection remains valid) to be parked on public streets where parking is permitted. (There was a meter in front of the car, so parking was clearly permitted at least some of the time).

  19. Re:Not pointless... by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But it's reality in this era.

    FUCK YOU and FUCK YOUR "THIS ERA" BULLSHIT!

    You know what the reality of "this era" is? The reality is that we as Americans are safer (from all types of crime, including "terrorism") than at any point in history, and that DHS or other "anti-terrorism" jackbooted thugs have had NOT ONE GODDAMN THING to do with it!

    The reality is that some terrorists got lucky ONCE, and shit-for-brains sheeple like you are letting the authoritarian powermongers in our government use that as an excuse to flush our civil rights down the toilet. Knock it off, dipshit!

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  20. Re:Not pointless... by nedlohs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Right, because having a car parked with an item in it that is sold at most department stores and kitchenware stores is reasonable cause to blow up someone's property. And I guess everyone better start driving electric cars if they don't want the police to blow up their stuff too.

    And sure driving with a revoked license is illegal, but the car was parked. Now the person involved may have been stupid enough to say he drove it there, or the police might be making that up like they often do. It'd be nice to be in a country where the word of a police officer could be trusted, but the US isn't such a place - and no not all police are going to make stuff up to protect themselves but enough have and then not been charged with filing a false report that it's rational to not trust any of them. Just like when the 8 year old says "no I didn't I eat those cookies" when found next to the now empty cookie jar it's rational to not just trust them at their word.

  21. Re:Not pointless... by russotto · · Score: 3, Informative

    You didn't read 50-1403.1(c) (concerning non-residents), obviously.