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Microsoft Bringing Cortana To iOS, Android

An anonymous reader writes: While many big tech companies have their own personal assistant software these days, few of them are available on a broad variety of devices. Microsoft has now announced that it's becoming one of those few: Cortana will be available for iOS and Android devices later this year. It's part of an initiative by the company to ensure Windows 10 plays well with all sorts of devices, even phones made by the other major manufacturers. Microsoft said, "Regardless of the operating systems you choose across your devices – everything important to you should roam across the products you already own – including your phone." This led them to develop a "Phone Companion app," built into Windows 10, that's designed to help sync a user's PC with his phone.

65 comments

  1. It's actually surprising... by wardrich86 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    With the amount of potential information mining that could be done with these apps, I'm surprised they aren't all cross-platform.

    1. Re:It's actually surprising... by zoffdino · · Score: 5, Insightful

      With the amount of potential information mining that could be done with these apps, I'm surprised they aren't all cross-platform.

      NSA is cross-platform and very easy to use. You don't even need to sign up for it. Come free with every phone call.

    2. Re:It's actually surprising... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      embrace, extend, extinguish

    3. Re:It's actually surprising... by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      I dont think MS is in a position to execute the third E anymore.

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    4. Re:It's actually surprising... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      Unfortunately, the procedure for data recovery is effectively impossible with that particular vendor. You probably need clearances you don't have to even get a straight answer about why your request is being refused.

    5. Re:It's actually surprising... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish the NSA would work with the public, can you imagine how many people would pay for evidence of cheating spouses?

    6. Re:It's actually surprising... by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No, this seems to be evolving into "Embrace... or die."

      The world is a very different place for Redmond, and if they want to hang on to any piece of the consumer market, they need to get their software on to all the major platforms.

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    7. Re:It's actually surprising... by zlives · · Score: 1

      cloud back up system...

    8. Re:It's actually surprising... by praxis · · Score: 2

      With the amount of potential information mining that could be done with these apps, I'm surprised they aren't all cross-platform.

      NSA is cross-platform and very easy to use. You don't even need to sign up for it. Come free with every phone call.

      It does not come free with every phone call; we're playing for it.

    9. Re:It's actually surprising... by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      But, honestly ... if people wanted the Microsoft stuff, they'd have bought a Microsoft phone.

      I find myself thinking ... why the hell would I want Microsoft anything on an Android or iOS device?

      Is there a market of people tripping over themselves for this? Unless it was a corporate device and I had no choice, I see zero value in this for anybody who didn't buy a Microsoft product to begin with.

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    10. Re:It's actually surprising... by Flavianoep · · Score: 2

      It does not come free with every phone call; we're playing for it.

      Only if you pay your taxes in the US. I haven't paid anything and I am not sure if I am not being tracked by the NSA.

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    11. Re:It's actually surprising... by Flavianoep · · Score: 1

      But, honestly ... if people wanted the Microsoft stuff, they'd have bought a Microsoft phone.

      I find myself thinking ... why the hell would I want Microsoft anything on an Android or iOS device?

      Is there a market of people tripping over themselves for this? Unless it was a corporate device and I had no choice, I see zero value in this for anybody who didn't buy a Microsoft product to begin with.

      I use Cyanogen-Mod and have chosen not to have Google Now. If I ever want some kind of personal assistant, my best option will be Cortana.

      However, on a second thought, what I've said does not counter your argument.

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    12. Re:It's actually surprising... by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm not sure that logic plays through. Frankly, for Microsoft, the real problem is that damned few people really even consider Microsoft mobile products at all. They're a niche player, competing with BlackBerry for who will end up pushed right out of the market.

      Imagine you're Microsoft, you're faced with the possibility that you will never, even if you heavily subsidized a mobile Windows product line, be able to make any significant headway into the iOS-Android hegemony. What would you do? If it was me, I'd quietly admit that I'm never going to be able to dominate mobile platforms the way I do desktops and portable computers, and I'd leverage what I had by opening up my software to more platforms.

      This isn't even a revolutionary idea for Microsoft. They once owned their own *nix platform; Xenix. Windows NT itself was designed a hardware abstraction layer so it could be ported to multiple hardware platforms. But somewhere along the line Microsoft and the x86 computer manufacturers welded themselves together. I can't say it was a bad decision, as it made Microsoft and Intel absolute shitloads of money for a quarter century, but at the same time it seems to have frozen Microsoft in place. It became a one-trick pony, only able to envision itself in a world of Backoffice apps and OEM licensing. Now it's got to be nimble again, and as it has already effectively ceded a large portion of the computing products out there to Apple and Google, it's got to make the best it can with what it has.

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    13. Re:It's actually surprising... by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Fucking brilliant!

      *picks up iPhone* "NSA, where is the nearest Pizza joint?"

      NSA: Five miles, then turn right at Ivy, Rd.
      NSA: By the way, you have very few funds in your account. I recommend something cheap at TacoBell.

      Uhh....ok, Thanks!...I think..

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    14. Re:It's actually surprising... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With the amount of potential information mining that could be done with these apps, I'm surprised they aren't all cross-platform.

      NSA is cross-platform and very easy to use. You don't even need to sign up for it. Come free with every phone call.

      If NSA is open-sourced I would have no problem with it

      Where is the source code?

    15. Re:It's actually surprising... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With the amount of potential information mining that could be done with these apps, I'm surprised they aren't all cross-platform.

      NSA is cross-platform and very easy to use. You don't even need to sign up for it. Come free with every phone call.

      It does not come free with every phone call; we're playing

      Paying, or playing?

    16. Re:It's actually surprising... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      cloud back up system...

      That is currently being built in Utah.

    17. Re:It's actually surprising... by rtb61 · · Score: 0

      There are two parts to M$. The recognised M$ part and of course MSN. MSN wasn't all that bad as portals go, M$ styled management did it a lot of harm by strangling the chicken when it came to selling advertising dominating worthwhile content as far as the end user is concerned and management principles that crippled creativity in favour of dog eat dog staff competition, creativity thrives on cooperation not competition. It is a shame to watch MSN slowly but surely die as a result of mismanagement and a lack of creativity.

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    18. Re:It's actually surprising... by Dog-Cow · · Score: 2

      There are two parts to M$. The recognised M$ part... go, M$ styled management...

      What the fuck does a basic string variable have to do with anything?

      You are so absolutely stupid, it's a wonder you can even get out of bed. How many times do you bang into the wall before figuring out it's the wrong side?

    19. Re:It's actually surprising... by ne0n · · Score: 1

      With the amount of potential information mining that could be done with these apps, I'm surprised they aren't all cross-platform.

      You'd be surprised how little malware is truly cross-platform.

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    20. Re:It's actually surprising... by KGIII · · Score: 1

      They'd just spend the money on black chicks. Wait, no... They would spend it on black projects. Not Black Projects in the Hood. (Hard to type this without seeming racist. I suppose I could be racist but, well, I am a quarter black, a quarter native, and half white. I am not sure what race I would have to pick if I wanted to be racist.)

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    21. Re:It's actually surprising... by KGIII · · Score: 1

      There is a lot of race in the above comment. Achievement unlocked: race race...

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    22. Re:It's actually surprising... by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I thought it was over Texas and Oklahoma. The Cloud is just downloading some info there.

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    23. Re:It's actually surprising... by KGIII · · Score: 1

      I confess, that would be awesome and I would take one of the shits I give about the NSA back just for having a cool op like that working for them. I wonder if you need to be in a phone call or will a dial-tone work for landlines?

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    24. Re:It's actually surprising... by KGIII · · Score: 1

      The "trouble" is that Microsoft has a lot of money still. They can stay in the phone game at a loss (it is only a partial loss) for many many many years. They can market lots of things at a loss and stay financially solvent for a very long time.

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    25. Re:It's actually surprising... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Especially if they adjust production to match the couple of phones per year they can sell.

    26. Re:It's actually surprising... by Talderas · · Score: 1

      Whichever encourages the most self-loathing.

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    27. Re:It's actually surprising... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Company tries to be profitable; Keep employees employed. Assholes on the internet still assholes.

      News at 11.

      Also, if you seriously think that guy is actually from MircoSoft... well your sense of self importance is very much over inflated.

    28. Re:It's actually surprising... by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      But, honestly ... if people wanted the Microsoft stuff, they'd have bought a Microsoft phone.

      I find myself thinking ... why the hell would I want Microsoft anything on an Android or iOS device?

      Is there a market of people tripping over themselves for this? Unless it was a corporate device and I had no choice, I see zero value in this for anybody who didn't buy a Microsoft product to begin with.

      I think you are looking at this wrong. they are not doing this because the consumers are demanding it. They are trying to make developing on the Windows platform more desirable to programmers. Ideally, write once, run everywhere. Then they let the programmers worry about making stuff that the consumers want.

    29. Re:It's actually surprising... by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      The problem is they run into the 'Kinect' problem. All this great tech and no one can make a compelling experience out of it (relative to the cost)

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  2. Today in euphemisms... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Everything important to you should roam across the products you already own"; by which we mean "please, do us the favor of selecting the consumer data most worth collecting about you and sending it to us".

    1. Re:Today in euphemisms... by countSudoku() · · Score: 1

      Also, please be sure and use a single password across all your systems for ease of use, good customer! Better yet, do not lock your devices at all! This shows you are not hiding anything from the "good corporations" that have taken over our government. A password implies that you are up to no good. This is a fact. #hashtag

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  3. Like the companion app by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That sounds good. Strange enough, my Android phone is not capable of syncing to my PC, even though my Palm could do it ten years earlier. My guess is that Google engineers just can't do this --- just kidding.

    Anyway, syncing == good. Now how can I do it with Linux?

    1. Re:Like the companion app by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Apple used to ship iSync with OS X, which could sync calendars and contacts with a wide variety of phones via bluetooth or a cable. It also had a nice plug-in architecture for adding new sync clients (and new kinds of data to sync). They also had some Bluetooth integration with the address book app, so when someone called your phone you'd get a pop-up on the screen of who it was and could send SMS directly from the address book. All of these features disappeared with the first OS X release after the iPhone and were replaced with cloud-base syncing that only worked with the iPhone.

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  4. Competition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is Apple really going to allow Cortana on iOS? I thought they were totally not cool with app competition.

    1. Re:Competition by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, considering that they also have Google's voice search on iOS, they'd have a hard time claiming that Microsoft's wasn't allowed.

    2. Re:Competition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder if the FTC or DOJ would find that worth looking into. Oohhhhh the irony would be wonderful!

    3. Re:Competition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought they were totally not cool with app competition.

      ...which is, of course, why Google Voice Search, Google Maps, Mapquest, Waze, Amazon Prime, Hulu, Netflix, etc. don't exist on iOS.

      Oh... wait...

    4. Re:Competition by assistanslinkoping · · Score: 1

      I wonder what will happen...

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  5. Cortuna, when my wife calls... by countSudoku() · · Score: 1

    be sure and put her on permanent hold and then we'll say I was being romantic and shit. Also, erase all my browser history and my login to FarmerMadison.com where I routinely cheat on my cow with someone else's cow. After that you can just erase yourself, Cortuna. I already have talky-G-searchy and if I get sick of her I have Siri, so donotwant you.

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    1. Re:Cortuna, when my wife calls... by KGIII · · Score: 1

      That domain name is available... Yes it is...

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  6. How is this a bad thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If the different agents were all cross platform and had to compete on merit instead of device lock-in, and you can pick the one you like the best, how is this bad? At least if it's an app you can not use it at all, or try it out and uninstall it if it sucks.

    1. Re:How is this a bad thing? by foradoxium · · Score: 1

      It's not bad, just not needed. For Android and iOS devices, there is no need for a 3rd party Chrome/Firefox downloader application because you use their respective stores to download/install applications.

  7. Only luddites use Cortana. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Modern app appers use apps to app other apps!

    Apps!

    1. Re: Only luddites use Cortana. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plus a day

  8. Microsoft Android © by nickweller · · Score: 1

    Will Microsoft be extorting revenue from Microsoft for the patented Microsoft technology in Microsoft Android?

  9. Underwhelming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These "personal assistants" are little more than gimmicks. They are good for a few laughs, but when really wanting to get something solved, you just do it yourself by means of means which, albeit more traditional, tend to be faster and more thorough. Other than this, I don't want to have any Microsoft trash in my phone, much less when it is delivered with a name fit for a cheap stripper.

    1. Re:Underwhelming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your emotional problems are showing.

    2. Re:Underwhelming by vux984 · · Score: 1

      , I don't want to have any Microsoft trash in my phone, much less when it is delivered with a name fit for a cheap stripper.

      Um... Cortana is a cheap stripper?

      Of the 3 personal assistants -- Apple has the cheap stripper name with Siri. Siri is a Scandinavian girls name.

    3. Re:Underwhelming by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      , I don't want to have any Microsoft trash in my phone, much less when it is delivered with a name fit for a cheap stripper.

      Um... Cortana is a cheap stripper?

      Of the 3 personal assistants -- Apple has the cheap stripper name with Siri. Siri is a Scandinavian girls name.

      Duckdukgo search "Cortana" Allblue colored woman wearning very little. Stripper? mebbe.

      DuckDuckGo search "Siri" only one photo of a pleasant looking Indian woman in a sari. So I suspect a typo Otherwise a slew of Apple's microphone icon.

      I call him right - I think you gotta own this one.

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    4. Re:Underwhelming by vux984 · · Score: 1

      See the sibling response to your post. I think I win. ;)

  10. Murderer assistant by edxwelch · · Score: 1

    All I want to know is does Cortana give better advice than Siri for hiding dead bodies?
    http://mashable.com/2014/08/13...

    1. Re:Murderer assistant by KGIII · · Score: 1

      "...charged with killing his friend..." You know, I am sick of that. If you killed them they were NOT your friend.

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    2. Re:Murderer assistant by Number42 · · Score: 1

      Platonic yandere?

  11. Free alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Can't we have our own free Siri, Cortana or Google Now? Is there already a F/OSS alternative?

    Actually, we could have different "skins" like Maria (Spanish accent), Fifi (French), Tanya (Russian), etc. (think Jar-Jar).

    It's a great way to do technical evangelism:

    -- Fifi, please find me a word document converter?

    -- Why not install Libreoffice, mon cheri? (*)

    (*) I know it has an accent but /. removes accents at random.

    1. Re:Free alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can, but it'll sound like a sexified Richard Stallman.

  12. Siri and Apple by DrYak · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised they aren't all cross-platform.

    Well, Apple is still mostly a company selling hardware. So keeping Siri restricted to iOS makes sense, it's an extra bullet-point to sell of their hardware (from which their profit).
    Opening Siri to Android would reduce the perceived advantage of iDevices and bring less money to Apple.

    Microsoft - in the phone arena at least - is currently selling *OS* and *software*. Keeping Cortana restricted to Windows would have been a selling point for Windows (and thus selling more license to Windows-based phone makers)... but Windows has completely and utterly failed to attract any significant interest.
    iOS and Android are the 2 big player, and there's little room for a 3rd one(*), specially given the network effect.They have no point in actually keeping Cortana restricted, Windows on phone is a lost cause anyway.

    So having failed that, of course Microsoft will move to the next possibility: indeed, there's massive value in mining information. Siri and Cortana are running locally, they are just thin clients that record vocal commands and send them to data center for interpretation.
    There's a high potential to monetize that, so Microsoft has a strong incentive to push it to as many devices as possible.

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    (*) a 3rd *incompatible* one which uses yet another different standard for apps.
    There are plenty of small niches for different OSes (mainly full blown Linux) that still retain compatibility with Android apps.
    e.g: Black Berry, Sailfish OS, etc.

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  13. Closing the barn door once the horse has bolted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Closing the barn door once the horse has bolted.

  14. Siri by mister_playboy · · Score: 1
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    1. Re:Siri by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      No, she's American.

      http://www.boobpedia.com/boobs...

      Good heavens. Those things should be registered weapons.

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  15. Re:FRISt PSOT by KGIII · · Score: 1

    Umm... +5 for effort maybe?

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  16. They have a fiduciary duty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: To stockholders. Losing money != living up to it by *ANY* stretch of the imagination & that is WHAT THEY CLAIM TO DO, as CEO's for Pete's sake & they don't...

    After all - Why do you THINK Ballmer & Sinofsky took off? See subject - again, losing MONEY is *not* doing that.

    Of course, I sincerely feel Windows & MS is being "gentrified" (sort of) ON PURPOSE, like in land deals, which DO take time!

    (Nuch as screwing Windows up on the surface with the DUMB interface & more I outlined here beneath the surface, driving away REGULAR users used to a certain interface for decades AND even "techie geeks" like myself, due to what's outlined here on hosts files -> http://linux.slashdot.org/comm... also... )

    * Get the stock price to DROP, people drop that stock, & corporate "buybacks" of their OWN stock is the "in thing" now, fueling FAKE 'growth', fool... so, that all said & aside??

    THEY'RE JUST SETTING IT UP TO BUY IT UP CHEAP & THEN TURN AROUND, RELEASE A SOLID VERSION OF WINDOWS (minus fuckups) & CLEAN UP LARGE, for themselves... bigtime.

    Anyone with 1/2 a brain that's seen it in real estate for example, has seen it before & KNOW what's really going on... THAT 'gentrification' is it.

    APK

    P.S.=> Get real man... I hate to say it, but if MS keeps this up? Once my Win7 64-bit support goes away, unless they patch it perfectly by then? I'll be on Linux or MacOS X like "white on rice" due to the above - & yes, that's WHAT IS GOING ON, no questions asked (that, or they're stupid as hell, take your pick, driving away users)... apk

  17. Could start with Jasper (was: Re:Free alternative) by erikscott · · Score: 1

    You could, presumably, start with Jasper... graft on a bunch of Python for DBpedia, and then a heads-up interface for your powered exoskeleton.