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Computer Chips Made of Wood Promise Greener Electronics

alphadogg writes: Researchers in the U.S. and China have developed semiconductor chips that are almost entirely made out of a wood-derived material. In addition to being biodegradable, the cost of production is much less than conventional semiconductors. According to the NetworkWorld report: "The researchers used a cellulose material for the substrate of the chip, which is the part that supports the active semiconductor layer. Taken from cellulose, a naturally abundant substance used to make paper, cellulose nanofibril (CNF) is a flexible, transparent and sturdy material with suitable electrical properties. That makes CNF better than alternative chip designs using natural materials such as paper and silk, they argue in a paper published in the journal Nature Communications."

128 comments

  1. HCF joke in 3...2...1... by willworkforbeer · · Score: 5, Funny

    And it specializes in Bamboolean operations...

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    1. Re:HCF joke in 3...2...1... by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Funny

      Problem is all the answers will be in board-feet.

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    2. Re:HCF joke in 3...2...1... by sjames · · Score: 2

      Will Apples be made of wormwood?

      I'm sorry Mr. Johnson, your computer has termites.

    3. Re: HCF joke in 3...2...1... by xaxa · · Score: 1

      Apples will be made from applewood.

      Wormwood fibre would surely lead to electronic hallucination.

    4. Re: HCF joke in 3...2...1... by sjames · · Score: 1

      I thought that was how the reality distortion field worked?!?

    5. Re:HCF joke in 3...2...1... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Want to watch porn?
      Get wood!

  2. Computers Kill Trees by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    but, you already knew that.

    1. Re:Computers Kill Trees by manu0601 · · Score: 2

      Paper-production is actually pushing humans to plant more trees, and that trees act as carbon sinks. Killing a tree is not a huge problem since you immediatly replace it

    2. Re:Computers Kill Trees by x0ra · · Score: 3

      Not so true. Not only trees have a limit in the amount of carbon they can sink, but if you cut a 100years old tree, and replant it, the new trees is not gonna sink as much carbon as the previous tree.

    3. Re:Computers Kill Trees by x0ra · · Score: 4, Informative

      Some research on the subject... https://ec.europa.eu/jrc/en/ne...

    4. Re:Computers Kill Trees by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not actually true. As part owner of a tree farm we've looked into carbon credits, etc. CO2 sequestration is highest in the first few years of growth and then gradually tapers off. You probably get more CO2 sequestered in the first 20 years than the next 80.

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    5. Re:Computers Kill Trees by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      Sure, but paper-production forest do not contain 100 years old trees. The idea is to plant trees somewhere there were no tree before.

    6. Re:Computers Kill Trees by SpankiMonki · · Score: 1

      Another true story ruined by an eye witness.

    7. Re:Computers Kill Trees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sure, but paper-production forest do not contain 100 years old trees. The idea is to plant trees somewhere there were no tree before.

      Or at least, where there are no trees currently

    8. Re:Computers Kill Trees by currently_awake · · Score: 2

      Most tree farms are on poor soil, often on mountainous terrain where you really can't plant valuable crops or food easily. They often make them on land that was just logged, actually.

    9. Re:Computers Kill Trees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You probably get more CO2 sequestered in the first 20 years than the next 80.

      More carbon sequestered, less biodiversity. Sounds like a great deal - at least in the short term.

    10. Re:Computers Kill Trees by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1

      interesting...so, for the highest amount of CO2 sequestration we should be planting trees and recycling them back into the ground as fertilizer for the next batch on a five or so year cycle?

    11. Re:Computers Kill Trees by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 4, Informative

      For the highest amount of CO2 sequestration you need the plant matter to fall into an anaerobic bog and slowly sink into the ground as new stuff lands on top. After a few hundred million years, an advanced society then digs it as coal and oil and burns it, dumping all the carbon back into the atmosphere.

      There's a huge amount of stored carbon in the ground. It's only a problem when you burn it. Burn current plant matter and and you're only returning the carbon that came from the air recently, not the carbon that's been saved up for millions of years.

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    12. Re:Computers Kill Trees by x0ra · · Score: 1

      Numbers from the EPA might leads one to think the contrary, cf http://www.epa.gov/climatechan...

    13. Re:Computers Kill Trees by x0ra · · Score: 1

      oops, wrong post

    14. Re:Computers Kill Trees by x0ra · · Score: 1

      Numbers from the EPA seems to disagree. http://www.epa.gov/climatechan...

    15. Re:Computers Kill Trees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why would they cut old growth for a source of cellulose.

      that stuff is being done for high end furniture and finishings typically found sitting under apple devices

    16. Re:Computers Kill Trees by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Not actually true. As part owner of a tree farm we've looked into carbon credits, etc. CO2 sequestration is highest in the first few years of growth and then gradually tapers off.

      What? This is an outright lie. I just covered this here recently, and the precise opposite is true. Mature trees fix more CO2 than young trees. Mature forest fixes more CO2 than young forest. I first found that this was true for Sequoia Sempervirens, but I dug around and found that this was true for the vast majority of trees. You can read the majority of my comments on this subject in the discussion reakthrough In Artificial Photosynthesis Captures CO2 In Acetate. As I recall, there was another discussion which followed soon after in which I provided additional citations.

      Now, are you telling lies deliberately, or simply repeating lies in ignorance because you were too lazy to go do the research?

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    17. Re:Computers Kill Trees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      obviously you do not live in a town with a paper mill :(

    18. Re:Computers Kill Trees by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

      For the highest carbon sequestration we should plant trees with wood that sinks in salt water and then dump the wood in a deep part of the ocean. The wood would sink to the bottom where it does not rot and thus does not release the CO2 to the water.

      (some checking by an actual researcher in a relevant field required)

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    19. Re: Computers Kill Trees by BlueTrin · · Score: 1

      And now it will also sit inside Apple devices ... When will this madness end ?

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    20. Re:Computers Kill Trees by hankwang · · Score: 1

      Your EPA document is about sequestration rates PER TREE in (sub)urban setting. Under such circumstances, the CO2 sequestration rate would depend mostly on the amount of sunlight that it can capture, which increases as the tree grows. A typical urban tree looks like a short stick with a strongly branched green ball on top.

      In a production forest, trees are planted closely together and compete with each other for light. You'd expect the photosynthesis rate per unit of ground area to level off once a full leaf coverage is reached, which could well happen within 20 years. My idea of a production forest is lots of tall stems with little branching, most leaves near the top, and not enough light to support plant growth at ground level.

      Secondary effects could be that the trees waste more energy on forming new leaves every spring that capture a smaller and smaller fraction of the sunlight as the competition for light increases. That could well lead to a reduction in net sequestration rate over time.

      To me it seems plausible that you're both correct, but comparing apples and oranges.

    21. Re:Computers Kill Trees by codeButcher · · Score: 1

      if you cut a 100years old tree, and replant it, the new trees is not gonna sink as much carbon as the previous tree.

      I don't know much, but I would imagine that if that tree is turned into paper, furniture etc., (most of) the carbon stays "sunk" in that product - until it is burned, at only this point the carbon returns to the atmosphere as CO2. So, Regularly cutting trees and making something out of them (even compost), while replanting the area with new trees, might actually be better in terms of carbon sequestration, than just leaving the trees stand ad infinitum.

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    22. Re:Computers Kill Trees by amias · · Score: 2

      the habitats provided by older trees are much harder to replace.

      these have an effect on wider parts of the environment such as keeping soil in place or supporting other flora and fauna. This can have much wider effects that are very hard to gauge.

      also not all trees have the same effect on the nutrients in the soil around them , replanted trees tend to be the ones that grow fast but do not necessarily compliment their surroundings as much as their predecessors and often deplete them. Most woodlands are a diverse mix of various species of tree which
      came about because thats what worked for the woodland , replacing it with what works for humans or economics is not such a good plan IMHO.

      We have loads of fibres we can reuse if we want to but we dont

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    23. Re:Computers Kill Trees by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      It's actually a controversial subject and not everyone agrees. However I have the advantage of being able to measure my trees and measure the biomass that is being added per year on my farm. Feel free to come to my farm and bring your measuring tape and hypsometer.

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    24. Re:Computers Kill Trees by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      So what changes do you think you would make to the ecosystem of the deep ocean by dumping all that energy rich material in it?
      Of course you could also convert it in charcoal and bury that that in desert areas.

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    25. Re:Computers Kill Trees by drinkypoo · · Score: 0

      Feel free to come to my farm and bring your measuring tape and hypsometer.

      I don't have to; I can read and other people have done the studies for me, as you can see in the links I posted in the prior discussion. People with credibility, unlike yourself. People who have actually done peer-reviewed studies, unlike yourself. I don't fall into the fallacy of thinking I'm smarter than everyone — that's why I looked it up.

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    26. Re:Computers Kill Trees by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      Sure, but paper-production forest do not contain 100 years old trees. The idea is to plant trees somewhere there were no tree before.

      Or at least, where there are no trees currently

      the northeast (connecticut, to be specific) is relatively well forested these days. the thing is, this is not the old forests from preColombian days, this is largely new forest maybe 100 years old, from when the agricultural areas gained by destroying the old forests were abandoned or converted to residential areas and suburbia. more scrubby than magnificent huge trees, if you see a 30 foot oak or red maple it's a grand and mighty entity, that kind of thing. not sure if that counts as carbon sequestration or not?

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  3. Brings a new meaning to rule 34 by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    If the computer has wood.

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    1. Re:Brings a new meaning to rule 34 by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      If the computer has wood.

      well, the internet, you know...

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  4. Stupid by BitZtream · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So they replace the substrate with wood ... instead of silica ... the argument being that wood is plentiful and biodegradable and biologically safe ...

    Except ... Silica is more plentiful and more biologically safe since its essentially biologically inert.

    As an advantage, silica is NOT biodegradable, because I want my chips to last, not fall apart over the winter when it sheds its leaves.

    Silica is NOT the issue for the environment in CPUs, its the production materials and doping agents that are horrible on living things and hard to dispose of.

    So congrats ... you solved a problem ... wait, no, you didn't really do anything productive. Not seeing any redeeming quality about a chip produced this way and seeing plenty of down sides.

    Whats next, you're going to try and convince me that the aircraft carrier made of sawdust and ice they tried to construct during WWII really was a brilliant plant for a warship sailing in the south pacific?

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    1. Re:Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...And, by the time you modify the wood to do those great electronics things you need, it's no longer wood. You might as well start with some more easily workable chemical compounds.

    2. Re:Stupid by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Except ... Silica is more plentiful and more biologically safe since its essentially biologically inert.

      Also, silica conducts heat far better than cellulose, which means it can be made small, dense, and fanless, requiring less power and consuming fewer resources overall.

    3. Re:Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're the sort of person who screams at the TV, or gets angry at talkback radio. There aren't any foundries gearing up for wood chips. It's just an interesting piece of materials science. Imagine some sort of genetic engineering that could grow a cellulose structure with semi-conducting channels. Then go take a cold shower.

    4. Re:Stupid by tyme · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Except that this substrate is not being used for Si based semiconductors, but for GaAs instead. Also, using the wood-based substrate means that you can use 99% less of the semiconductor material (GaAs which is rarer than Si, and also poisonous). This will make specific classes of electronic devices (specifically radio and microwave frequency devices) much cheaper, and much less hazardous to dispose of, which is a big win.

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    5. Re:Stupid by x0ra · · Score: 2

      don't be so hasty, hipsters and lumbersexuals need to promote something they understand, ie. not heavy chemistry.

    6. Re:Stupid by Bengie · · Score: 1

      They said this new material is transparent and flexible. You try bending your silicon CPU and let me know how it goes. The article also mentions that it's cheaper, doesn't need toxic chemicals and doesn't create toxic chemicals.

    7. Re:Stupid by currently_awake · · Score: 1

      The aircraft carrier made of sawdust and ice was to be used in the north atlantic, where it would be subject to u-boat attacks. Not in the tropics.

    8. Re:Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By the way, that is silicon not silica (aka SiO2).

    9. Re:Stupid by BitZtream · · Score: 2

      ... CPUs are small enough that they don't need to be flexable, the CPU is not that big hunk of a thing you pull out of the socket, thats the package, and it has to be big and string to hold all those pins or balls in the right place under the pressure of the lock on the socket. The CPU is a little chip inside of there with wires connected to it so small that you can't see them without good vision or assistance.

      Also, silica doesn't require or create toxic chemicals by working with it, had you bothered to read my statement, you'd see that its the doping agents that make the silica actually do something other than not conduct electricity that come with all the toxic effects.

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    10. Re:Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually most dies are flexible when removed from the substrate. This will be critical as fabricators get better and we actually start embedding electronics in the body. Passives are the only real issue holding embedded soft/flexible electronics back now.

    11. Re:Stupid by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 0

      and won't burst into flames if it goes over 451 degrees Fahrenheit!

    12. Re:Stupid by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Henp fibers have been shown to work far better than just wood. And as your boat melts you can smoke it...

    13. Re:Stupid by BitZtream · · Score: 1

      ...

      Are you trying to be cute or just ignorant and talking out your ass?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...

      Specifically

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...

      I.E. Silica is the naturally occurring thing that gets refined into silicon for the substrate.

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    14. Re:Stupid by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 1

      Not seeing any redeeming quality about a chip produced this way and seeing plenty of down sides.

      The people selling us devices with these chips may see the convenient planned obsolescence as a huge upside.

    15. Re:Stupid by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      RoHS/Lead-free has already baked obsolescence into your consumer electronics. Tin-whiskers plus the difficulty in services devices with lead-free solder, not that VLSI really makes it practical to take your gizmos to the repair shop anymore.

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    16. Re: Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He may be talking from his arse but you are an arsehole.

    17. Re:Stupid by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

      Also, silica doesn't require or create toxic chemicals by working with it, had you bothered to read my statement, you'd see that its the doping agents that make the silica actually do something other than not conduct electricity that come with all the toxic effects.

      Doping agents like Phosphine and etching fluids like hydrofluoric acid. Yes. Very nice stuff.
      You can handle them safely but it requires attention to detail from everyone: engineer that designs the system, the mechanic that welds the double walled piping, everyone that can acces the valves, the controller that sees the notifications and everyone that can see a potential problem.

      I have designed such tubing systems.

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    18. Re:Stupid by FoxMcElroy · · Score: 1

      Yes, and silica requires literally 1000 times more of that gallium arsenide than cellulose nanofibril for the production of a chip.

    19. Re:Stupid by FoxMcElroy · · Score: 2

      Here, I'll quote 1/6th of the article: In a conventional chip, the support substrate is made of the same material as the active layer, but in the CNF chip, only the active layer is semiconductor material, Zhenqiang “Jack” Ma, a UW-Madison electrical and computer engineering professor who led the team, said via email. “If commercializing the wooden chips, tremendous material cost will be saved,” Ma said. “We actually reduced the use of semiconductor material by 99.9 percent.”

    20. Re:Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Different tests have given different results. 451 degrees Fahrenheit is not a confirmed value. Some place it higher, some lower.

      Anyway, paper components isn't a new concept. Paper film capacitors are pretty common.

    21. Re:Stupid by jandersen · · Score: 2

      Except that this substrate is not being used for Si based semiconductors, but for GaAs instead

      Apart from that, there is the whole, emerging, organic and printable semiconductor industry:

      http://www2.physics.ox.ac.uk/r...
      http://www.fastcompany.com/114...

      These things are not necessarily meant for servers or even consumer electronics as we know it; there is a huge number of things that different industries are interested in using computer technology for, where things like price, flexibility and low power consumption are crucial factors. Just imagine if it were possible to print something like thousands of largely autonomous computers on stickers for, say, $.01 each; I think this may very well be possible quite soon. In that situation, you want electronics that are bio-degradable.

    22. Re:Stupid by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      Just sayin, with a wood processor you could have a truly native HCF instruction.

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    23. Re:Stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Silica

      I understand Nature is paywalled, but lots of chips are made with GaAs and using a thinner substrate on paper would be greener.

    24. Re:Stupid by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      and won't burst into flames if it goes over 451 degrees Fahrenheit!

      and bugs don't eat it.

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    25. Re:Stupid by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      don't be so hasty, hipsters and lumbersexuals need to promote something they understand, ie. not heavy chemistry.

      I'm researching organic data integration and processing devices, made of organic materials, largely proteins suspended in solutions and gels, powered by oxidation of simple carbohydrates. Rather than purely electrically, signals will be transferred by a hybrid chemical/electrical process involving transfer of ions between compartments of conducting saline solutions, isolated by nonconducting layers of hydrocarbons, with said transfer both dependent on and altering the electric potentials.
      Data will be processed in a revolutionary manner, avoiding the bottlenecks of the von Neumann architecture; holistically, rather than using separate memory and processing areas. It will be built of similar microscopic processing units, each of which integrates several inputs into one output, handed off to similar units. this provides for a great deal of plasticity, as well as failure tolerance, as functions are mostly not locked into a single substructure, but can be rerouted if local damage occurs.
      this model can be easily enhanced to provide for the unit having limited sensory capability, mobility and a self-maintenance capacity which allows it to seek and consume fuel when necessary, avoid damaging environments, etc. etc.; to some degree it will be self-programming. Ultimately new units will be constructed and initially programmed by other similar units.
      Right now my goal is to investigate this latter function, of replication of new units as a result of interfacing between previous units. At this stage, I am more interested in the initial steps only of the process, and do not intend production of actual units, which would strain research resources. This would make it possible to study a large number of these initial interfaces with many of the numerous working examples locally available for study and experimentation in this area; however I currently lack the funding to engage them in this activity for sufficiently detailed experimentation and analysis, so I am seeking grants.

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    26. Re:Stupid by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      Just sayin, with a wood processor you could have a truly native HCF instruction.

      No longer would autocorrect have to fix "wood processor".

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    27. Re:Stupid by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      You're the sort of person who screams at the TV, or gets angry at talkback radio. There aren't any foundries gearing up for wood chips. It's just an interesting piece of materials science. Imagine some sort of genetic engineering that could grow a cellulose structure with semi-conducting channels. Then go take a cold shower.

      Now that you mention it,
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
      Slayman CL, Long WS, Gradmann D (1976). "Action potentials in Neurospora crassa , a mycelial fungus". Biochimica et Biophysica Acta 426 (4): 737–744. doi:10.1016/0005-2736(76)90138-3. PMID 130926.
      Mummert H, Gradmann D (1991). "Action potentials in Acetabularia: measurement and simulation of voltage-gated fluxes". Journal of Membrane Biology 124 (3): 265–273. doi:10.1007/BF01994359. PMID 1664861.

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    28. Re:Stupid by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      The aircraft carrier made of sawdust and ice was to be used in the north atlantic, where it would be subject to u-boat attacks. Not in the tropics.

      "We have sighted the Titanic, captain"
      "Full steam ahead! Ramming speed!"

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  5. Great news! by quenda · · Score: 3, Funny

    since global ore reserves of current substrates such as silicon and aluminum dioxide are rare and almost depleted.

    Another advantage of cellulose based wafers is that using traditional Japanese technology, they can be made even smaller, and in pretty shapes like swans.

    1. Re:Great news! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Insightful

      since global ore reserves of current substrates such as silicon and aluminum dioxide are rare and almost depleted.

      Indeed. Silicon is already down to only 30% of the earth's crust, and aluminum has dwindled to only 8%. We are down to our last few peta-tonnes.

    2. Re:Great news! by 32771 · · Score: 1

      It is a matter of concentration and processing cost, not the fact that it sits in the same gravity well with us.

      Generally I think minitiaturization is great since we can do more with less say rare earth metals or even such metals as copper or gold. The downside is that we are able achive a much finer distribution with it.

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    3. Re:Great news! by carbonates · · Score: 1

      "since global ore reserves of current substrates such as silicon and aluminum dioxide are rare and almost depleted."

      That could not be more untrue. Pure silica sand (which is silicon dioxide) that is the source of silicon is in such abundance that it sells for less than $50 per ton, after cleaning and grading. The raw material is a minor part of the cost. Aluminum ores such as bauxite are some of the most common minerals on the planet. The USGS actually describes bauxite reserves as "essentially inexhaustable."

      http://minerals.usgs.gov/miner...

  6. Got any marshmallows? by phrackthat · · Score: 2

    Next time they tell you that you'll set your computer on fire if you overclock, you better believe them.

  7. wooden computers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, when I say my program has a bug, I mean there is a Japanese beetle in the chip.

  8. Finally... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank God for computers!!! We no longer use as much paper. At least now we have a justification to keep killing trees!

  9. Read 'Ring World" and you'll know how this ends. by dsmatthews9379 · · Score: 1

    Civilisation gets eaten by a fungus.

  10. Red Green would be proud. by jpellino · · Score: 2

    Now if they can just replace solder and thermal paste with duct tape and concrete patch....

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  11. I'm going to mark this as facetious... by jpellino · · Score: 1

    please don't burst my bubble.

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    1. Re:I'm going to mark this as facetious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you are right - trying to be ironic. But it's not aluminum dioxide, it's alumina (Al2O3). And it's only used for oddball research work.

  12. what? by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    They cut down a tree to make a chip that degrades over time so you have to buy another one. The eco-friendliness is very apparent.

  13. So... would a foundry based on this tech... by tlambert · · Score: 1

    So... would a foundry based on this tech... be a "wood-chipper"?

    1. Re:So... would a foundry based on this tech... by BigPaise · · Score: 2

      And so ... The next Intel chip will be called 'Fargo'.

  14. Imagine... by UdoKeir · · Score: 4, Funny

    A Beowulf shrubbery of these!

    1. Re:Imagine... by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 1, Funny

      we demand..an OVER-CLOCKED shrubbery! Ni! Ni! Ni!

    2. Re:Imagine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, if your CPU weighs the same as a duck, then its made of wood...

  15. um.... by Charliemopps · · Score: 1

    Being made out of nature, doesn't make it good for nature.

  16. Oh the puns write themselves by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 5, Funny

    How can you tell how old your iPhone is? Call it and count the rings.

    Landscapers are becoming in demand because of their ability to provide wood chips.

    Play Nintendogs, now with more bark.

    Search functionality vastly improved for native binary trees.

    1. Re:Oh the puns write themselves by penguinoid · · Score: 2

      Potatoes have cellulose too. I demand potato chips.

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    2. Re:Oh the puns write themselves by kesuki · · Score: 1

      how can you tell your wood based processor is over heating?
      By sending it Fahrenheit 451 if it bursts into flame then you know it's too hot.

  17. Termites? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, just don't let termites get into your computer gear or what you will have is a nice pile of saw dust!

  18. Fir Yew I Pine and Balsam Too by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    All termite jokes aside, this could have applications where disposability is a criterion. Those animated greeting cards could now be more annoying than ever before.

    1. Re:Fir Yew I Pine and Balsam Too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you care? By this time next month you'll have colonized Mars, right? LOL

  19. Finally, reliable physical combustion of chips! by gweihir · · Score: 1

    Also provides an useful indicator whether your overclocked rig is running too hot!

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  20. Re:Read 'Ring World" and you'll know how this ends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...a fungus that can grow in an environment full of As.

  21. Old school email by sjames · · Score: 1

    Pine FTW!

  22. biodegradeable by Khashishi · · Score: 2

    gives a whole new meaning to the phrase bit rot

    1. Re:biodegradeable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1

    2. Re:biodegradeable by TexNex · · Score: 1

      And would Dutch Elm disease be reclassified as a computer virus or a buffer exploit?

  23. One word: by wherrera · · Score: 1

    Bugs. Bugs eat cellulose.

  24. Need to apply thought by dbIII · · Score: 1
    Silicon is plentiful, Titanium is plentiful, Aluminium is plentiful, but they are all tied up in oxides that are very hard to reduce.
    Thus you need to consider more than one little bit, which is the easiest bit, of the long chain of effort between sand and CPU or the new material and CPU.
    As for the biodegradable rant - it's not cellulose anymore and may be no more biodegradable than many plastics.

    The above assumes you are being honest and are merely mistaken.

    However I suspect such an embarrassing major error was actually intentional and pretended shock jock contagious stupidity in the hope of fooling people to reject something out of hand just because "green" was in the summary and thus it needs to be put down immediately for ideological reasons. If that's the case I suggest you grow up, pull your head in, and consider it in practical terms instead of fucking stupid political games.

    1. Re:Need to apply thought by x0ra · · Score: 1

      You are shooting your own foot. Biodegradability is a selling point from greenwasher. If it ain't biodegradable, then, there is no point. That being said, there is a whole lot more crap in today's electronic than IC's substrate...

    2. Re:Need to apply thought by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

      Making non-biodegradable stuff from tree-carbon is awesome from a CO2 perspective. It is one of the few ways to get the stuff out of our atmosphere.

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      Well, I might have a way, but it only works on a semi spherical planet in a vacuum.
    3. Re:Need to apply thought by dbIII · · Score: 1

      You are shooting your own foot

      Only if you assign an agenda I have not expressed to a strawman you've built in my name. What is it with petty shit like that?

    4. Re:Need to apply thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Strawman this, strawman that. Do you have other tricks? Like fetch? Maybe roll over and play dead?

  25. Apologies by PopeRatzo · · Score: 0

    I'm contractually obliged to use this every time I can:

    Mujo: "I saw a guy with a wooden leg!"

    Haso: "That's nothing. I've got an aunt with a cedar chest."

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    You are welcome on my lawn.
  26. Avatar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess james cameron knew about the trees networking ability in avatar.

  27. This pleases Bender by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "The modern world can bite my splintery wooden ass!"

  28. All natural? by Jeremi · · Score: 1

    Maybe this will finally shut up the people who complain that eBooks just aren't like the real thing.

    --


    I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
  29. Yeah. Alright. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I read the title and was immediately "No."

    Seriously, news like these are not news and misleading titles and vague speculation does not make it any more credible.

    1. Re:Yeah. Alright. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed. The title is a fucking disgrace. ESPECIALLY for Slashdot.

      (AC to not kill moderations)

  30. I'm feeling confident now that I have purchased by tgibson · · Score: 1

    a semiconductor chip made out of wood. I wasn't about to repeat the same mistake when I purchased that semiconductor chip made of straw.

    1. Re:I'm feeling confident now that I have purchased by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... that"s nothing, I bought a Windows server and its entirely made of brick.

  31. upgrade ready by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    but what if I want to put my smartphone in the paper-shredder when I'm done with it? [when Apple releases a new model]

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    “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
  32. As a fictitious Canadian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm very sorry our syrup powered wood chips, as reported in /., were not publicized sooner.

  33. so will I... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    need to treat my new computer with termite repellent?

    Will cellulose digesting bacteria rapidly evolve to take advantage of this new food source?

  34. Back to basics by Grindalf · · Score: 1

    " They're 400 feet wide, the binary maths is performed by interacting cantilevers and push rod slats, and, it's powered by push pedals and a river with a water wheel. Augmented Canadian tech at it's finest!"

    --
    The purpose of existence is to make money.
    1. Re:Back to basics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In a way it's kind of a fun idea to think that you could basically build a mechanical processor out of wood. Sure it'd be slow as hell, but the logic is there and it works.

  35. Computer chips made out of rocks by Required+Snark · · Score: 1

    An equally valid statement.

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    Why is Snark Required?
  36. Depends on what kind of trees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Different kinds of trees grow at different rate

    If they are really interested in creating carbon sink, they should plant more hemp, or at least, trees that grow very fast

    I will give you two links that list trees that grow really fast, thus, better carbon sink

    http://www.fast-growing-trees.com/Fastest-Growing-Trees.htm

    http://www.conservationinstitute.org/10-fastest-growing-trees-plants-in-the-world/

  37. Overclocking by cowdung · · Score: 1

    So does it turn into rocket fuel when it catches fire and you blow a high powered fan on it?

  38. Wax paper capacitors FTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because they were so reliable first time around.
    Said no-one who has ever dealt with said capacitors ever.

  39. Sonic screwdriver? by NocturnalWarrior · · Score: 0

    Doesn't work on wood, watch out Doctor!

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    "Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."
  40. Wood Chips, big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a yard full of woods chips, what's the big deal?

  41. First problem: heat by whitroth · · Score: 1

    Wood, and cellulose, are good insulators... of heat, as well. How ya gonna cool the chips? Put layers of cooling tubes through the chips?

                      mark "man that wood-chip is really burning... I mean, *really* burning.

  42. So what's wrong with Si? by Gliscameria · · Score: 1

    Si isn't exactly toxic for rare... You'd think they would play up the flexible and transparent instead of the biodegradable.

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    X
  43. kek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hope you don't have termites.

  44. I bet it will work even better by PJ6 · · Score: 1

    when you add a layer graphene using a specialized, hand-held instrument.

  45. Heat Dissipation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's the one thing I can't get past, and it's a deal-killer.

  46. old news with new title by K10W · · Score: 1

    How is this different from other designs that use different substrate material than used in active layer? It is just prepreg epoxy paper with thin silicon or GaAs layer on rather than using silicon/GaAs for substrate as well and this has been looked at for some time. Full article even admits paper is one of the materials used in such designs previously and this seems more of the same but they are making it sound new calling it wood. It isn't wood because there is no lignin, hence alpha cellulose papers are called "wood free" papers.

    They may have tweaked the design a little by changing the type of paper but this isn't some amazing breakthrough that turns IC design upside down the way they make out, also bashing GaAs as nasty implying this doesn't have it in because hey it is wholesome "gree" tech from trees when it will still have GaAs layer in all the same unless silicon is prefered as it is in many cases in which case moot point. About as new as changing the structural materials in FR4 for PCB construction from epoxy prepreg'd E-glass to paper (or both in CEMs) only they don't BS about making some eco friendly new way to mount circuits when they do that.

  47. planned obsolescence by ArylAkamov · · Score: 1

    Sounds like the next big leap in planned obsolescence.