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The Tricky Road Ahead For Android Gets Even Trickier

HughPickens.com writes: Farhad Manjoo writes in the NYT that with over one billion devices sold in 2014 Android is the most popular operating system in the world by far, but that doesn't mean it's a financial success for Google. Apple vacuumed up nearly 90 percent of the profits in the smartphone business which prompts a troubling question for Android and for Google: How will the search company — or anyone else, for that matter — ever make much money from Android. First the good news: The fact that Google does not charge for Android, and that few phone manufacturers are extracting much of a profit from Android devices, means that much of the globe now enjoys decent smartphones and online services for low prices. But while Google makes most of its revenue from advertising, Android has so far been an ad dud compared with Apple's iOS, whose users tend to have more money and spend a lot more time on their phones (and are, thus, more valuable to advertisers). Because Google pays billions to Apple to make its search engine the default search provider for iOS devices, the company collects much more from ads placed on Apple devices than from ads on Android devices.

The final threat for Google's Android may be the most pernicious: What if a significant number of the people who adopted Android as their first smartphone move on to something else as they become power users? In Apple's last two earnings calls, Tim Cook reported that the "majority" of those who switched to iPhone had owned a smartphone running Android. Apple has not specified the rate of switching, but a survey found that 16 percent of people who bought the latest iPhones previously owned Android devices; in China, that rate was 29 percent. For Google, this may not be terrible news in the short run. If Google already makes more from ads on iOS than Android, growth in iOS might actually be good for Google's bottom line. Still, in the long run, the rise of Android switching sets up a terrible path for Google — losing the high-end of the smartphone market to the iPhone, while the low end is under greater threat from noncooperative Android players like Cyanogen which has a chance to snag as many as 1 billion handsets. Android has always been a tricky strategy concludes Manjoo; now, after finding huge success, it seems only to be getting even trickier.

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  1. iPhone switchers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The 'Majority' Of New iPhone Switchers Came From Android"

    With Android's huge marketshare, wouldn't you expect that to be the case?

    1. Re:iPhone switchers by bickerdyke · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And with a mostly two-players market I'd bet that most people who switch to Android came from iPhone.

      Either it's your first phone, then you're not counted as switch, any subsequent phone upgrade from then on won't be a OS switch either or, if it IS a switch, it will be back and forth between Android and iOS.

      So this is a non-fact.

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  2. Power users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What if a significant number of the people who adopted Android as their first smartphone move on to something else as they become power users?

    That would be a possibility if there were a more power-user-friendly smartphone platform. However, Android is the platform for power users.

    In Apple's last two earnings calls, Tim Cook reported that the "majority" of those who switched to iPhone had owned a smartphone running Android.

    That is hardly surprising, since that is true for people in general.

    Still, in the long run, the rise of Android switching sets up a terrible path for Google — losing the high-end of the smartphone market to the iPhone

    While the iPhone is definately in the high-end segment of the market if we look at the retail price, it is hardly competetive to high-end Android phones functionally. They serve a different market. Hence, I don't think this is a big threat for Android's market share.

    1. Re:Power users by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      99.99% of either market is made of non-power users. For those of you who think you are? You're likely fooling yourself.
       
      "Power user" is a buzzword to get people to feel important. The fact that you're relating that to a phone in the first place shows how much of a joke it is.

    2. Re: Power users by Guppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      At this point, you pretty much have to be a power user to have a good Android experience, given how badly crapped-up most low - end carrier's phones are.

      Most non power users have no idea how to deal with crapware, and no idea that all that junk isn't intended to be part of the Android experience.

    3. Re:Power users by dave420 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's not really just a phone, though - Android phones are linux machines with great connectivity. If you are hell-bent on calling a 2.5GHz computer with 2GB+ of RAM, a built-in 1080p screen, wifi, lte, bluetooth, NFC, etc. etc. a "phone", then I guess you will always be confused at how people describe the users of it.

  3. Of course the majority will be from Android by GreenEnvy22 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When Android has the vast majority of the market, where do you think the majority of people "switching" to Apple are going to come from? The single digit % of users running Windows phone or Blackberry?

    1. Re:Of course the majority will be from Android by cdrudge · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would imagine that the opposite is true to, that the majority of users switching to Android are coming from iPhones. And by switching, I'm presuming they mean going from one smart phone to another.

  4. Android to iDevice by Raxxon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How many of those people bought a cheap (crap) Android device and then instead of spending money for a "superphone" decided to go the the "cult of iDevices"? I've had a number of android based devices and given the broad range of hardware out there it's easy to get suckered into buying something that's absolute crap and then wind up blaming the part you can see. I've had a few friends that made this kind of switch and when I pull out my current Android device (OnePlus) most of them kinda kick themselves.

    There's statistics, and then there's useless bullshit. I'm thinking this is more the latter.

    1. Re:Android to iDevice by Noryungi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'll second that one. My first Android phone was really bad. It was slow, buggy, full of crapware, and a pain to use.

      I "switched" to a Samsung Galaxy Note, and never looked back. The user experience was simply great, almost as good as an iPhone, but much cheaper and with none of the iTunes crap.

      I am now using a Nexus 5 and a Nexus 7, and I absolutely love them both. My next smartphone will be either the next generation of Nexus, or the next Samsung.

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    2. Re:Android to iDevice by trout007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hence the walled garden and "ecosystem" approach by apple. There are many people that don't want to figure out which phone/tablet/laptop is good and bad. They know if they buy an Apple product it will be good. They don't sell junk. Sure it's overpriced if you compare specs to Android phone/tablet or Windows laptop but you also don't need to do hours of research to see if the product you are looking to get sucks. This is the same reason people buy Honda's and Toyota's. You can get cars with more performance and accessories much cheaper. But if you buy a Honda or Toyota you pretty much know you can drive it for 200,000 miles and just pay for regular maintenance.

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    3. Re:Android to iDevice by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Apple user: "I love my phone."

      Android user: "I hate your phone!"

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  5. Phone Switching by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    a survey found that 16 percent of people who bought the latest iPhones previously owned Android devices

    So 16% of iPhone purchases were made by people who previously owned Android phones. (I'm going to assume here that "owned Android devices" doesn't mean you owned a Nexus tablet and now are buying an iPhone.) This statistic is useless, though, unless you also find out how many people buying Android phones previously owned iPhones. If there's an equivalent amount of people getting Android phones to replace their iPhones, then the "16%" isn't really a loss for Android. It's just normal churn. Presenting the 16% figure on its own is misleading as it makes it seem like people are fleeing Android and nobody ever leaves Apple.

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  6. It's not about platform... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google doesn't care about the platform, they want screens in front of faces.
    Putting 100 android screens in front of 100 faces 1% of the time is making them money.
    Putting 50 iOS screens in front of 50 faces 2% of the time, is making them money.

    There is nothing tricky about this for google... They want to grow, they biggest source of income is ads, ads are all about getting people to look at things.
    They have two options, they can try to compete for a bigger slice of the same sized pie, push all the other ad companies out of business...
    OR they can get us to spend more time with our screens in front of our faces, the pie gets bigger and even if every one keeps the same percentage of the pie, Google makes more money than the rest of them.

    Why is google working on self driving cars? They want you to use your commute time to browse the web.
    Why is google working on glass? They want to be in front of your face every waking hour of the day.
    Why is google running internet lines and looking into connectivity by high altitude balloons? Every hour they can one additional person connected to the internet is making them money, connectivity to places that don't have it expands their portion of the pie.

    Google provides Jquery libraries, graphing software, mapping software, and DNS servers to make the internet faster and more reliable because the more people looking at more pages makes them more money...

    Screens in front of faces, that is what google wants... They don't care about the platform, they gave andriod away to get cheap devices out there to put screens in front of faces.

  7. Android IS a huge financial success. . . by Idou · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google pays billions to Apple to make its search engine the default search provider for iOS device

    Think of how much MORE Google would have to pay if Android was not the dominate OS. . . HINT: Companies usually Open Source technologies to reduce costs, not to DIRECTLY increase revenues.

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  8. Power User? by DjDanny · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would a 'Power User' move from Android to iOS? They won't be able to do any of their 'power things' any more.

    This article makes no sense at all.

    1. Re:Power User? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not true, a jailbroken iOS device is essentially a small BSD box.

      Oh? So you have the source code? Snicker snort.

      A jailbroken Android device, on the other hand, really is a small Linux box. You can trivially install a more complete userland on most interesting phones. You can install an X server. You can get the sources to everything but the Google Play stuff, and you can use the phone without that stuff. In theory you should even be able to throw away the GUI and all the apps from Android and switch to Wayland someday, at least on relatively modern phones whose graphics drivers will be usable by Wayland.

      Now, tell us again how much your iOS phone is like a computer, please. We're fascinated.

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  9. Re:"low end" by swb · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, I don't see it as in issue for anybody.

    Every iPhone I buy has been used *hard* for two years by two busy professionals working as consultants, and then used continuously as a home telephone (we kept our landline number and ported it to a cell number because it was actually cheaper than the monthly taxfest that is a landline) and then used pretty hard by a 10 year old boy after that.

    I may buy a new iPhone every year, but every one of those iPhones gets used for four years and by then it's not even a question of battery that's an issue, but of software and processor obsolescence for any kind of a serious tasks, and I don't think that's really all that different for Android users, either. The only hardware issue I've ever had was a volume up button on a 4S that crapped out six months in, and it was swapped out in store for a replacement phone in 10 minutes.

    I really don't understand guys like you that are so angry about people who do buy a phone every year. Admittedly the biggest "feature" add on year on year is mostly CPU/RAM, although the screen size bump with the iPhone 6 Plus has been the main thing this year. It's a fucking tax writeoff for us and even if we bought 2-3 phones individually we'd be looking at upgrades every 18 months or so anyway, so one every 12-14 months doesn't seem outrageous.

    I sometimes think the hostility is because you're too broke, too cheap or just flat-out jealous.