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FCC Proposes To Extend So-Called "Obamaphone" Program To Broadband

jfruh writes: The FCC's Lifeline program subsidizes phone service for very poor Americans; it gained notoriety under the label "Obamaphone," even though the program started under Reagan and was extended to cell phones under Clinton. Now the FCC is proposing that the program, which is funded by a fee on telecom providers, be extended to broadband, on the logic that high-speed internet is as necessary today as telephone service was a generation ago.

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  1. Eliminate all tax withholding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If people making $30,000 a year knew they paid over $1000 a month in taxes, the US government wouldn't have the resources to be so overweening.

    Make people actually have to hand their money over to the government instead of never seeing it and could have an honest discussion over how much government the US REALLY wants.

    If you don't like that, you really have to ask yourself how much you actually support the rule of "we the people".

  2. Re:other people's money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Like it or not, either way, you're going to spend the money.

    Here's the thing about those phones. They prevent trouble. They give people opportunity.

    You don't do that? The cheapest thing that can happen is somebody dies in a way that isn't even suspicious enough to keep a cop from drinking his coffee.

    Then you're out a burial plot at most.

    More expensive? Yeah, people end up being in prison where we pay even more to keep them there than if we just supplied them with weed and beer and cheap food.

    Or worse yet. Revolution and riot. You know why the Roman leaders needed the bread and circuses? Because otherwise the out of work population of Rome would be pissed. Why did they lose work? Because the land-owners wanted slave-worked plantations, not citizen-owned farms.

    You give a man something to do? Where they can be appreciated and respected? You'll get results. You piss people off and convince them they're hated, well, at a certain point, even the lowest worm will realize you're not better than they are.

    And you won't always be the cat with the sharpest claws.

  3. DO it by Ryanrule · · Score: 4

    Tax me. I just got a bmw. I can afford it.

  4. Re:Amazing by Nyder · · Score: 5, Informative

    I find it amazing that not only is cable TV a "right", deserved by all, now broadband is also a "right".

    / Yo dude, check out my guv'mint subsidised Facebook post! // Yo dude, you should look into some guv'mint subsidised belts /// Yo dude, check out the brusin' I layed on my baby mama for telling me I should buy a belt!!

    Overreact much?

    Cable TV isn't considered a right and the Government does not give it away to poor people. Poor, can't afford Cable TV? Life sucks, you get over the air.

    Nice try though.

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  5. Have You Looked for a Job Recently? by mx+b · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I find it amazing that not only is cable TV a "right", deserved by all, now broadband is also a "right".

    In a way, it is. Your first comment is actually a little more correct than you realized.

    I hunted for a job last year for quite some time before I got my new gig. Let me share some thoughts on the current job climate:

    1. (1) Many companies specifically say they do not fool with paper applications anymore, you are directed to submit resumes to their online HR portal.
    2. (1.5) For that matter, I don't see "Help Wanted" signs very much either. Job openings are posted online, so to even see if a job is available, you often have to check online.
    3. (2) An email address is as required as a phone number (perhaps more so?) these days when applying for jobs. Correspondence such as setting up interviews was done almost entirely in email in my experience. They may have called?... or may have thought since I didn't respond to their email, I wasn't available, and moved on to the next candidate.
    4. (3) A LinkedIn or Facebook is used to "verify" you are a real person that doesn't seem too crazy or weird, and that your public profile matches your resume (catching obvious liars). It was heavily insinuated to me that applicants without an online presence were basically treated as homeless drug addicts (i.e., "what are you hiding if you're not online?")

    So, to get a job, it's quickly becoming a requirement to have internet access. If we ever expect to help people improve their lives, we have to be willing to give them a leg up to get started. Getting a decent job is a start to better things, so if jobs require internet access, I am all for making it a "right".

    Furthermore, I think there is an even greater reason why to do this. While it is possible to call one's congressmen, you'd have to know what to call about. I never receive snail mail copies from my legislators, but I receive email newsletters and follow them on Twitter. Without internet, you would probably have much less of a chance of being informed as well as being able to interact with your representatives. Arguably, since democracy is one of the most important aspects of our society, I would say that allowing access to representatives is a fundamental right, and if those representatives now do a lot of their business and work online, we must require online connections for all.

  6. Ronnie Phone by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just for the record, the "Obamaphone" program has a name. It's called the "Lifeline Assistance Program" and was started in the 1980s by...Ronald Reagan. It has nothing to do with Obama.

    https://www.fcc.gov/guides/lif...

    http://www.snopes.com/politics...

    http://gawker.com/5947133/the-...

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    1. Re:Ronnie Phone by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just for the record, the "Obamaphone" program has a name. It's called the "Lifeline Assistance Program" and was started in the 1980s by...Ronald Reagan. It has nothing to do with Obama.

      Stop reminding people what a big tax spender Little-Government-Ronnie was ...

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    2. Re:Ronnie Phone by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's odd how it seems to politically matter who does something more than what is being done. Examples:

      "GOOD" (or neutral) WHEN BUSH DID IT:

      Corporate welfare
      NSA
      TSA
      DHS
      deficits
      stimulus
      bombing
      medicare part D
      golfing
      hugging Saudi oilers
      saluting with things in hand
      feet on desk
      subsidized cell-phones

      "BAD" WHEN OBAMA DID IT:

      Corporate welfare
      NSA
      TSA
      DHS
      deficits
      stimulus
      bombing
      medicare part D
      golfing
      hugging Saudi oilers
      saluting with things in hand
      feet on desk
      subsidized cell-phones

  7. Re:How about import duties? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's time Washington works within a budget like everyone else.

    Yet we vote out every politician who offers to balance the budget by raising taxes, vote in every politician who promises to expand services without a word on balancing the budget, and borrow trillions of dollars to maintain the status quo. If you want to change Washington, look in the mirror.

  8. Re:other people's money by CaptQuark · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you read the full article, this $9.25 subsidy only applies to people ALREADY receiving it for phone service. The only change described in the article would be to allow those people to apply the subsidy to cell phone or broadband service instead. I assume there would be a few people that currently qualify but don't receive the subsidy because they don't have a land line, but $9.25 would barely cover the cheapest broadband plan the companies would offer.

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  9. Re:other people's money by silentcoder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    >What they need is to gain skils and obtain a steady job or make one.

    Have you TRIED to get a job without a phone number ? What century do you think this is ?

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  10. Re: other people's money by silentcoder · · Score: 5, Informative

    You realise this won't cost you a cent right ? This is the exact same subsidy Reagan instituted with no increase. Just permission to allocate it to a different service.

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  11. Re:other people's money by Rob+Y. · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Medicare - before the new drug benefit that was explicitly barred from seeking good deals. Seems socialism's better than its reputation - except when crafted by Republicans who want it to look bad...

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