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Leaked TISA Documents Reveal Privacy Threat

Posted by timothy on from the may-fsm-bless-julian-assange dept.

schwit1 writes with some Wikileaks-enabled news at Forbes about the Trade in Services Agreement, a treaty currently under negotiation between the U.S., the European Union and nearly two dozen other parties. Wikileaks' release of 17 documents from the negotiating countries puts some bad light on some of the provisions being considered: From the Forbes report: Under the draft provisions of the latest trade deal to be leaked by Wikileaks, countries could be barred from trying to control where their citizens' personal data is held or whether it's accessible from outside the country. ... These negotiating texts are supposed to remain secret for five years after TISA is finalized and brought into force. Like TTIP and TPP, TISA could be sped through Congress using Trade Promotion Authority (TPA), also known as fast-track authority, which has been passed by the US Senate and may be taken up in the House this month. Under TPA, Congress is barred from making amendments to the trade deals, and most simply give yes-or-no approval.

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  1. They have no concept by KlomDark · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "countries could be barred from trying to control where their citizens' personal data is held or whether it's accessible from outside the country"

    The businesses pushing for this are the same businesses that are going to throw a fit when this affects them.

    1. Re:They have no concept by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, this is what you get when the govt. is fully *bought* and paid for by interests other than the "people".

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    2. Re:They have no concept by dcollins117 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      It was the following line that caught my interest:

      These negotiating texts are supposed to remain secret for five years after TISA is finalized and brought into force.

      What is the need for secrecy? If this is a good deal then doing out in the open is clearly the way to go. That they are attempting to bury it suggests that this a crappy deal for all but a select few.

    3. Re:They have no concept by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is what you get when people vote for bought politicians because the TV tells them to. It doesn't have to be this way, but it seems to be the most convenient for all involved. There is no large scale resistance to any of it.

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    4. Re:They have no concept by MrL0G1C · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I wish you were joking, TTIP is a full out assault on democracy :-(

      ISDS is corporations wet dream - being able to sue the govt in a kangaroo court - not a normal court any time any govt decides to write a law to protect standards, rights, public services, health or the environment.

      What are gov't for again? This isn't just laws for sale, this is democracy for sale outright.

      This transatlantic trade deal is a full-frontal assault on democracy

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    5. Re:They have no concept by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The sad part is, you could show the people at large that these politicians are bought and paid for, and they *still* vote for the crooks. Why? Because they've been trained to think and believe that "the other guy" is evil/hateful/fascist/$badBadBad.

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  2. For US benefit ... by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How much do you want this is at the request of America so that a) their security spying can access everything, and b) so that companies like Microsoft can't be told what they can do.

    I'm so sick and tired of government officials signing away our rights under the table.

    It should be a criminal offense to have secret treaties which impact our rights.

    This is to benefit US spying interests, and corporations. Neither of which is a sensible reason to sign away our fucking rights.

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  3. Re:Fast Track is Totally Misunderstood. by Carewolf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Whatever the content of the treaty the fact that TPA is just standard procedure.

    You can't hammer out an agreement between multiple different countries only for a national legislature to take issue with a single concession that was won by another country and agreed to by the delegates. The negotiators are there to get the best possible deal for their country. Congress then gets to decide whether or not the deal is good enough, they can't unilaterally renegotiate it.

    No, no, no.. Especialyl not when the negotiations are secret, if they were public, the parliaments and public could comment on the procedings, but when they are secret, they can only comment and correct "mistakes" afterwards. And if you can't make a treaty that everyone will agree on in the end, maybe you are negotiating someting unacceptable. Rejecting it piecemeal by national parliaments is exactly how this should be dealt with.

  4. Re:What can *we* do? Serious! by zlives · · Score: 4, Insightful

    yet what do you do on that fated election day... which side do you vote for when both don't care.