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So Long Voicemail, Give My Regards To the Fax Machine

itwbennett writes: Yes, it was just a matter of time before voicemail, the old office relic, the technology The Guardian's Chitra Ramaswamy called "as pointless as a pigeon with a pager," finally followed the fax machine into obscurity. Last week JPMorgan Chase announced it was turning off voicemail service for tens of thousands of workers (a move that CocaCola made last December). And if Bloomberg's Ramy Inocencio has the numbers right, the cost savings are significant: JPMorgan, for example, will save $3.2 million by cutting voicemail for about 136,000. As great as this sounds, David Lazarus, writing in the LA Times, warns that customer service will suffer.

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  1. Re:Umm, what? by Mariner28 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The US mortgage industry single-handedly is keeping facsimile alive and well. Anyone who's bought a house lately can attest that they have no clue about PII in unencrypted e-mails, and think nothing of asking you to print out, sign and initial a 60 page document, then fax it back to them. And then they have the gall to complain when you reduce their 8.5 x 14 legal size documents to 8.5 x 11 because your $99 inkjet printer/scanner can't handle legal size.

    With throwback companies like that, you'd never know that the mortgage industry is the major backer behind DocuSign. Another reason why banks should issue you a digital certificate when you open an account. If the US Government can implement PKI for their own use, surely the more nimble private marketplace can do the same... /s

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  2. Re:Makes sense by goodmanj · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There's this amazing etiquette change going on in America today, the idea that you need to contact someone first before you can have a real-time interaction with them. You can't just show up at someone's door, you have to call first. You can't just call, you need to text first. Someday soon, it'll be rude to text without first checking someone's Weibo status or some damn thing. Our great-grandparents would be baffled.

  3. Re:I stopped using it 5 years ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Because prospective clients are harder and more expensive to attain than retaining current clients. Obviously, you're not in sales.

  4. Re:Umm, what? by Nukenbar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    An interesting side note to this. A buddy of mine in venture capital use a fax machines all of the time to send documents back and forth because email and any "store communications" they are required to keep copies of for regulators and other review. Since the fax machines don't "store" information, at least not long term enough to count, they are not required to keep copies of info sent or received over fax.

  5. Re:The most significant loss by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Language bias disrupts actual communication.

    So we just make shit up and demand everyone understand it.

    Pointing out, or ripping on, language constructs that are not to your liking doesn't make you intelligent; it makes you a disruptive asshole.

    Oh. Wow. Go back and re-read that until you understand the unintended consequence of your statment.

    If you cannot get over the use or R U 31337 you need to know you are the problem, and not the writer. The intelligent people, or at least honest people, who want to engage in actual communication have more adaptive protocols and are more concerned with the content than the wrapper.

    The use of various odd symbols or semi cryptic groups of letters such as AFAIAC as a communication language is not necessarily that difficult. But it has a few strikes going against it.

    First, It doesn't enhance communication, it impedes it. A large part of the alternate spellings universe is based on trendiness, where one tries to place themselves with using a "new" version of the word they want to type. Fast evolving, yes, but never can make it into the lexicon, because that would be the ultimate disgrace for the trendsetters. The goal is to be different, not to conform to any standard.

    Second, it is jarringly imprecise. Anything other than top level communications doesn't work. I had a new employees who tried to refuse to take telephone calls, saying he only responded to text - and he was so 1337. So after taking a log time and many texts to try to communicate, I eventually told him he had a choice. Pick up the telephone when I called him, or I would walk across the building and we would talk in person, with the understanding that I wasn't going to be happy at all about having to give him special treatment. He weighed th eoptions, and like any good millenial, he didn't like interfacing with people too much, so he took the phone calls from me.

    Third - it ain't rocket science Spunky! I can easily understand or figure out what they are saying, even as words are mutated to keep up with trends. And as need be, I can write just like them - although I might be a mutation or two behind. But the converse is not necessarily true, and communication is very limited.

    Know your audience, and communicate with them in the form they understand. And I'm gleefully thinking about some 1337 versions of mathematical formulae. Now there would be some precise communications.

    TLDR: Grammar Nazi's please fuck off.

    Says the guy who's demanding that everyone must accept the alternative universe of communications via rapidly mutating misspellings based upon the real words.

    Tell me "Trend Nazi", after enough mutations, what will you do when the spelling returns to the original version? (4 b?@ What did I just write? I and translate, but you really should know and accept what I wrote, because it communicates, right?

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  6. Re:I stopped using it 5 years ago by pla · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Because prospective clients are harder and more expensive to attain than retaining current clients. Obviously, you're not in sales.

    If I call to buy some product or service from you, and get voicemail... I don't leave a message, I just move on to your competitors.

    Obviously, you're not in sales either. ;)