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SourceForge Suspends Independent Project Mirroring

vivaoporto writes: In a reversal motivated by community concerns (like the high profile outcry over the distribution of an ads-enabled installer for GIMP and the accusation by Fyodor of the hijacking of the nmap SourceForge project), SourceForge has discontinued third-party bundling of mirrored content.

Along with that, as of June 18th, SourceForge started "removing SourceForge-maintained mirrored projects" and engaging their "newly-formed Community Panel to discuss site features and program policies including a redesigned mirror program." Of the 295 mirrored projects, they removed all that were "not co-maintained with one or more of the original developers, except where the upstream site has been discontinued." For those wanting to reach SourceForge for some constructive feedback, they point to the recently-established Community Voice forum.
Note: SourceForge and Slashdot share a corporate overlord.

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  1. Meh by bulled · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It took them long enough to reverse something that should never have happened in the first place. Sorry Sourceforge, we had a good run, but this finally pushed me to move else where for project hosting.

    1. Re:Meh by Megane · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's what the PHBs who order these kind of changes (often so they can look like they're doing something) never think about. When you've done something to break the trust of a community, no matter how on the decline said community may be, it's very hard to repair the damage to your reputation afterward. Slashdot Beta would have been a worse mistake if they hadn't had the "&nobeta=1" escape clause, but fortunately that meant they only went half way before the community pushed back. (And I still think the "text over images" design meme is stupid. Just look at this abomination of web design.)

      How many of you out there are still avoiding the use of FTDI's USB serial chips? And how many of you instantly wrote them off and gave them the "unperson" treatment?

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    2. Re:Meh by edibobb · · Score: 2

      It was not a reverse. It was a postponement. From the SourceForge blog: "SourceForge pledges to present third-party offers only with the projects that explicitly opted-in to that program." So sourceforge will give money to developers if they agree to allow malware in install files. "We are forming a Community Panel to review our mirroring practices and guide the way mirrors are established and the presentation of mirrored content on the site." So sourceforge will resurrect their distribution of non-sourceforge software (like Firefox), potentially with malware included at no extra charge. It looks like they're just waiting for the uproar to die down before they continue with these practices.

    3. Re:Meh by gweilo8888 · · Score: 2

      And it's not just devs who've gotten the message. It's been close to a decade since I last hosted a project on Sourceforge, and so I see myself merely as a normal end-user, but I've gotten the message, too. Sourceforge is no longer trustworthy, and I won't be downloading any project from it, ever again.

  2. just die already by i_ate_god · · Score: 4, Insightful

    no one cares about you, and your download pages full of ads and big bright green fake download buttons. The only thing you can do that would be of any value, is something akin to the old Walnut Creek FTP site.

    Otherwise, fuck off

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    I'm god, but it's a bit of a drag really...
  3. Kickstarter campaign to fix the overlord problem? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    >> SourceForge and Slashdot share a corporate overlord.

    How about a Kickstarter campaign to fix our current "corporate overlord" problem?

  4. Re:This is Slashdot's first article on the topic.. by DanJ_UK · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hmm, time to build a new one. Shall we start a github project?

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    - Dan
  5. Re:This is Slashdot's first article on the topic.. by geminidomino · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not sure if you're livving up to your username or what, but that's not true.

    http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/06/01/1241231/sourceforge-and-gimp-updated/

    Dice, SF, and slashdot genuinely fuck up frequently enough that we can do quite well without the histrionics and bogus accusations.

  6. Re:This is Slashdot's first article on the topic.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Uh, do you mean aside from the two other Slashdot articles linked in the summary?

  7. Creditability lost by noldrin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At this point, downloaders can't have confidence that any software coming from Sourceforge hasn't been tampered with and might include unwanted guests. Till they establish ethics in how they host software which conform to what most users expect from a software download site, they are a no go for me

  8. Just stop abusing "good will" projects by BenJeremy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    SourceForge should never have been considered a potential revenue stream... it should have been preserved as a community service project that enhances your standing in relation to those parts of Dice that do generate revenue.

    Corporate execs are far too quick to forget that.

    Lots of tech companies subsidize community service projects - this is great, but abusing these efforts, and trying to make a quick buck off them is a quick way to damage your reputation in the tech world. Building trust and admiration through such projects takes time and effort, and can be very rewarding to a company's bottom line, but when you betray the trust, it can quickly become a poison that no amount of time can heal.

    Dice, you've gained a lot of people who will never forget this. Certainly, many of them were not exactly fans to begin with, but they will be vociferous and their influence WILL impact your bottom line. Trying to make that quick buck will cost you far more in the long run. I certainly hope whoever was behind this "idea" has been sent packing. The road to rebuilding your reputation will be a long and painful one.

    1. Re:Just stop abusing "good will" projects by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      Dice? Reputation? Please! Wall Street whores do business with each other out of professional courtesy, fully aware of each others' "reputation".

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      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
  9. "opt-in" = sodomy by wcrowe · · Score: 2

    " With that in mind, SourceForge pledges to present third-party offers only with the projects that explicitly opted-in to that program."

    These days, whenever I see a company or organization use the phrase "opt-in", I immediately tune out anything else that is said, and decide I want nothing more to do with that company or organization.

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    Proverbs 21:19
    1. Re:"opt-in" = sodomy by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2

      Surprise opt-in!

  10. Re:This is Slashdot's first article on the topic.. by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

    I know! We can build something and host the source on Sourceforge!

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  11. Re:Kickstarter campaign to fix the overlord proble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    just move to https://www.soylentnews.org/ clon...

    done... no kickstarted neeeded

  12. Once lost, trust is very expensive to win back. by stox · · Score: 2

    Good luck, it is going to take a long time and a lot of effort to win back the trust the SF once had.

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    "To those who are overly cautious, everything is impossible. "
  13. Re:Kickstarter campaign to fix the overlord proble by Pseudonymous+Powers · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have often wondered about this myself. Is Slashdot worth more to its users that it is to its corporate masters? Is there some sum of money that unsatisfied Slashdot users could scrape together, perhaps over weeks and months, contributing some petty sum to some online swear jar whenever they encounter a petty annoyance, that would eventually accumulate into something that Dice would have to take seriously?

    The thing is, from a revenue perspective, I'm not sure Slashdot is worth anything at all. There's no "there" there--its value is almost entirely in its network of engaged commenters. I'm pretty sure 9x% of the people who visit Slashdot use ad blockers, and even if you somehow found a way to sneak ads past the blockers, that would just cause those people to exodus anyway. So I guess ideally Slashdot would have to be run as sort of a public service, rather than as a money-maker. I figured Dice bought Slashdot and SourceForge to drive traffic to their job site, sort of as a loss-leader, goodwill gesture, look-at-us-we-totally-get-you-guys, please-consider-us-for-your-next-job-search sort of thing. But given how they're seemingly burning the goodwill candle at both ends by pushing through unpopular measure after unpopular measure, I have to admit I can't figure out what their real strategy is.

    Then again, how much could Slashdot cost to run? It's just a forum, for chissakes, right?

    Then again again, if it's just a forum, why hasn't everybody moved on, en masse, to one of the clones of Slashdot that disgruntled Slashdotters have started in recent years? Because it's all about the network, I guess, and two halves of a big network aren't even half as good as the original network.

    Beats me. I hope somebody figures something out before too long, though.

  14. As a wise man once said... by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 2

    "It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you'll do things differently."

    - Warren Buffett

  15. Let it rot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just move projects to GitHub, and let Source Forge rot.

  16. Re:Kickstarter campaign to fix the overlord proble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    /. doesn't demand nearly the traffic it used to. Likewise, it doesn't send as much traffic as it used to. So, it's no surprise kids these days don't even know what 'slashdotting' is!