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Controversial GCHQ Unit Engaged In Domestic Law Enforcement, Online Propaganda

Advocatus Diaboli writes: Documents published by The Intercept on Monday reveal that a British spy unit purported by officials to be focused on foreign intelligence and counterterrorism, and notorious for using "controversial tactics, online propaganda and deceit,” focuses extensively on traditional law enforcement and domestic activities. The documents detail how the Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group (JTRIG) is involved in efforts against political groups it considers "extremist," Islamist activity in schools, the drug trade, online fraud, and financial scams. The story reads: "Though its existence was secret until last year, JTRIG quickly developed a distinctive profile in the public understanding, after documents from NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden revealed that the unit had engaged in 'dirty tricks' like deploying sexual 'honey traps' designed to discredit targets, launching denial-of-service attacks to shut down internet chat rooms, pushing veiled propaganda onto social networks, and generally warping discourse online."

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  1. Re: And so, what is wrong with this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a chap in England - you what? The IRA were scary maybe, the ISIS in England issue is mostly noise.

  2. Re:And so, what is wrong with this? by The+Raven · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think it's more that a group which claims to be focused on external threats, and uses tactics that few would be comfortable using on citizens of their country, is focusing mostly on standard internal issues which are normally the purview of the regular police.

    To put it another way, when I use my handgun to deal with an armed intruder to my home nobody would think ill of me. If I use that handgun to deal with my disobedient teenager then it's an entirely different issue. Even if the teenager is (for example) stealing from me just like the burgler was trying to, it's not an acceptable response. We have acceptable means to deal with our children, and a handgun is not on the menu.

    Similarly, using DDOS, propaganda, and blackmail on your own citizens is not the appropriate response even if we may condone it against foreign nations in limited circumstances, just as we condone (at least in the United States) the use of handguns in limited circumstances.

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  3. Zeitgeist by cosm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    10 years ago this story would have had over 1k comments. Now people just say meh. Collective apathy or mental resignation to the topic coupled with a demoralizing feeling of helplessness....it's been 1984 for a long time now.

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    1. Re:Zeitgeist by AHuxley · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Or so many smart readers now have, want, need or will be needing Western gov security clearances. They feel they cannot comment on anything work related anymore.
      Very chilling if you know your home network is your work network and every word that is seen is collected.

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  4. This is a popular online forum by Atmchicago · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a popular online forum. You can bet that all sorts of state actors, megacorporations, politicians, and anyone else with clout or ambition will be shaping the discourse here as needed. Turn up your critical thinking skills a notch.

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