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Australia Passes Site-Blocking Legislation

ausrob writes: Cementing their position as Australia's most backwards and dangerous government in recent memory comes this nasty bit of legislation, riddled with holes (which is nothing new for this decrepit Government): "The legislation allows rights holders to go to a Federal Court judge to get overseas websites, or "online locations", blocked that have the "primary purpose" of facilitating copyright infringement. If a rights holder is successful in their blocking request, Australian internet providers, such as Telstra and Optus, will need to comply with a judge's order by disabling access to the infringing location." Adds reader Gumbercules!! links to another story on the legislation, writing: Aside from the sheer inefficiency of trying to spot piracy by blocking individual sites, there's also the risk that servers which house other, more legitimate sites, will be caught up in the net. Unsurprisingly, the bill does nothing to remedy the fact that Australians pay far more for access to media than other places in the World or that media is often not available or extremely delayed, here.

57 comments

  1. wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    at least the title isn't editorialized...

    1. Re:wow by rmdingler · · Score: 2
      This submission needs work. Reads like the author's opinion.

      Fair and balanced, that's us every time!

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    2. Re:wow by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Actually it looks like listing facts to me.

    3. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Really? You might get the impression from this "list of facts" that the solution to this problem is oust the government and vote in the major opposition party, since it was all the government's fault, right? Wrong. As is usual with this kind of bullshit, it had strong bi-partisan support.

    4. Re:wow by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      Count yourself lucky it wasn't a dupe article.

      (...now wait for a day or two, and...)

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    5. Re:wow by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      at least the title isn't editorialized...

      I just wish he'd been a bit clearer in his opinion of the government.

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    6. Re:wow by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with opinion? Nobody gives a damn about facts. And it is a fact that censorship is bad and should be circumvented at every turn. Yet we still have people arguing about it.

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    7. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then maybe y'all need to find a 3rd party somewhere to vote for. Or a proportional government. Regardless, I doubt this opinion is incorrect.

    8. Re:wow by sectokia · · Score: 1

      Vote for LDP.

    9. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hell, vote for the motoring enthusiast's party, even if you didn't mean to. That guy is doing a better job than most of the cabinet.

    10. Re:wow by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      Don't put words in my mouth. The listing of facts is the government we have is a load of crap that is doing everything they can to erode our liberties.

      I said nothing about voting for the other side which is not a solutions since not only did it have bipartisan support as you pointed it out, but the opposition was actually the ones to first propose this kind of filtering 6 years ago.

  2. Just a thought by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

    Maybe you shouldn't elect those people.

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    1. Re:Just a thought by thegarbz · · Score: 0

      Who should I elect?

      If I elect the Liberals I get the internet filter.
      If I elect the Nationals I get the same internet filter.
      If I elect Labor I get the internet filter.
      If I elect the Greens well we may not even have power, fuel or an economy based on their policies.

      So tell me who I should vote for?

    2. Re:Just a thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Australia is blessed with the Australian Sex Party, though.

    3. Re:Just a thought by skirmish666 · · Score: 1

      Maybe you shouldn't elect those people.

      This legislation had bi-partisan support, so unless the majority of seats were populated by an independent or a member of one of smaller parties such as the greens, not much would have changed.

      Incidentally the greens are doing a lot better these last few elections than they have in the past... go figure.

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    4. Re:Just a thought by knightghost · · Score: 1

      It's a mistake to think that those on the ballet are the only ones to vote for. Write in a name. Start petitions. Voters have the power - they just don't bother to use it.

      The old socialist countries are the new fascist countries.

    5. Re:Just a thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Australia is blessed with the Australian Sex Party, though.

      If you elect them, you get fucked!

    6. Re:Just a thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a mistake to think that those on the ballet are the only ones to vote for. Write in a name. Start petitions. Voters have the power - they just don't bother to use it.

      The old socialist countries are the new fascist countries.

      What are you smoking? The game is stacked against us (though the Australian voting system is slightly more representative than the US):

    7. Re:Just a thought by mrbester · · Score: 1

      Yeah! Spoil your ballot paper, that'll teach them!

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    8. Re:Just a thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since they are already elected I see one possible solution...

      Australia! Make more Danger 5. Then you're set. You don't need anybody else's media.

    9. Re:Just a thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a major problem. You guys have all of your internet access coming in on a few cables. The rest of the world can't really understand the situation you are in. The costs are high to maintain a limited amount of bandwidth, and you have very little local content.

    10. Re:Just a thought by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      So tell me who I should vote for?

      People who aren't idiots?

      What's weird, is that th eAustralians, who were once lovers of freedom, perhaps based on they way their country was originally settled, are turning into hardcore British before our very eyes.

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    11. Re:Just a thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try voting for people and not parties.

    12. Re:Just a thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would love the opportunity to not vote for these people but they've made damned sure my citizenship application is delayed for as long as possible - even though I've lived here for 30 years and kept my nose clean.

    13. Re:Just a thought by petherfile · · Score: 2

      An independent! Parties suck because they are parties.

      The greens are not so bad. They used to be radical hippies but they grew up, they would be my next choice after an independent. They do suffer from that past image still, but their policies now look the most sensible of any party.

    14. Re:Just a thought by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Maybe you shouldn't elect those people.

      Easier said than done.

      We did warn people about the LNP before they were elected but the Murdoch press drowned out any voice of reason by repeatedly shouting "BOATS" and "BUT LABOR" and sadly this worked on the uneducated masses (voting is mandatory here, this is the best argument against it).

      Sadly, things like this are completely off peoples radar because of all the damage the LNP are doing to other things like industry, employment and the economy. It also doesn't help that the LNP are trying to use the bogeyman of Terrorism to keep people distracted from everything else they're fucking up. We've elected our own George W Bush but in Australia's defence, Tony Abbott will only see one term however the damage will last beyond 2017.

      I know saying "I told you so" is little consolation, but I'm planning to skip the country and head to England.

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    15. Re:Just a thought by bane2571 · · Score: 1

      One of the reasons I voted for Liberal over Labour was that labour wanted to put EVEN WORSE censorship legislation in place. This blocking was coming regardless of what the Australian people would have chosen if they were properly informed about it.

    16. Re:Just a thought by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      It's a mistake to think that those on the ballet are the only ones to vote for.

      Err no. That will only achieve a vote not getting counted.

    17. Re:Just a thought by knightghost · · Score: 1

      Then change your political system. Party rule is inherently opaque (leading to corruption) anyway.

    18. Re:Just a thought by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shockingly, the motoring enthusiast party is the only party which seems to be doing an excellent job.

  3. On the plus side... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

    While the current legislation is dangerously ambiguous, has a strong likelihood of being abused and used for overreaching chilling tactics against non-infringing entities; the Australian court system has the world's most robust and convenient supply of kangaroos, which should ease judicial proceedings under the law considerably.

  4. how to deal with the rupert problem... by johnjones · · Score: 2

    there is this old man that controls a lot of media in australia

    eventually all politicians end up having to go see and deal with this bloke rupert and/or his company

    one way is to give in to what they want hence the "internet filter" which blocks "copyright" which they are concerned about...

    what I find sad is they have no interest in actual copyright or paying artists but in shareholder returns (which they should be as its a company).

    regards

    John Jones

  5. So Austrailia by MitchDev · · Score: 1

    has gone back to its roots as a Prison Colony again?

    1. Re:So Austrailia by skirmish666 · · Score: 2

      has gone back to its roots as a Prison Colony again?

      Well spotted. It's a little known fact that England sent all of its internet copyright infringers over to Australia in 1788. Of course this was only after America declared independence and stopped accepting England's internet copyright infringers.

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    2. Re:So Austrailia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The acceptance speech of the next prime minister: "Want music, mate? Play guitar. Want naughty pictures, mate? Pick up a camera. Want movies, mate? Pick up a robe and a wizard hat. .. That's not a hat."

  6. This **is** a highly politicised post. by brindafella · · Score: 1

    This **is** a highly politicised post. And, I will make **no** comment on the 'political' outcome of, or machinations behind, this legislation.

    It takes only a few seconds to see that the prism / microscope / binoculars / rose-tinted-glasses through which this story has been passed is distorting the image spectacularly into a politically charged version of what ever is the truth.

    For someone from Australia, as I am, it takes about 1/10 that time, at most.

    The authors have used no restraint in being 'political' in their framing of the post.

    The SlashDot editors have used scant / little judgement in editing the two contributors' stories into one biased story. "Shame, shame, shame!"

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    1. Re:This **is** a highly politicised post. by neilo_1701D · · Score: 1

      "Shame, shame, shame!"

      Long time since I've heard Derryn Hinch's signature tagline :)

    2. Re:This **is** a highly politicised post. by sectokia · · Score: 1

      Yep it's politicised. Australia has banned sites primarily for illegal purposes for years. Now they are doing it as well for copyright. The argument that we have to pay more or have delays getting media is crazy.... why should we have a right to someone's content? Are they suggesting that the government should set prices and release dates for media? It's crazy.

    3. Re:This **is** a highly politicised post. by PeonPete · · Score: 1

      You're a joke, you're a disgrace :)

  7. The possible long "O" Pron[o]unciation by brindafella · · Score: 1

    The pronunciation of the Australian long "O" is easy.

    Say 'fuel'. Now, drop the "ee-you-eh" sound and instead just say the "oo". It comes out as "F'yool".

    Say "foot". Now, say it like "soot" (rather that "sort".)

    Say "roof". Now, say it not like a dog saying "ruff", but with the "ooo" of "rooof".

    Say "kangaroo". Now, say it without as "Kang-gar-Rooo" with the capitals meaning a bit more emphasis (aka "Em-far-siss", as opposed to "em-FAR-sis").

    That takes you along the road to speaking "strine" (the local contraction for "Australian", as in "a- Stine").

    an Aussie

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    1. Re:The possible long "O" Pron[o]unciation by CanEHdian · · Score: 1

      an Aussie

      You know where the modern term Aussie comes from? Aussie is a resident of AUS, which is the same as USA except the A isn't at the end, it's at the front, because they're on the other hemisphere. But the sphere of influence of Hollywood is the same, so are the people that are calling the shots behind the scenes.

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  8. posting to undo moderation misclick by Ionized · · Score: 1

    was trying to mod 'funny' but clicked 'overrated' instead. whoops.

  9. Re:THIS IS A RACIALLY OFFENSIVE THREAD. DELETE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why don't you just ask your government to block Slashdot? Surely those Abo jokes are infringing on some local comedian's copyrighted stand-up script.

    Gee, how could a law like this have possibly been enacted?

  10. The fix for ruining the NBN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People will be using less bandwidth and make the modifications to the NBN seem more justified and appropriate. :P

  11. Re:THIS IS A RACIALLY OFFENSIVE THREAD. DELETE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did the government give them computers now?

    That is just asking for trouble.

  12. Reverse block? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine if the response to this comes from the other side?
    Imagine if non-AU sites say enough and just start blocking AU IP blocks to give them an idea of what blocking can really do?

  13. Re:Ugh what a shitty government by Falconhell · · Score: 1

    Ah, another micro dick racist wanker eh? Go away pathetic weenie.

  14. adopt a model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... spot piracy by blocking individual sites ...

    Isn't this the model implemented by British parliament? A conspiracy nutter would think some secret machination (either military or corporate) is forcing this legislation upon countries of the world. Australia just implemented a watered-down version of the John Doe IP piracy lawsuits favoured by American corporations.

  15. Political SPAM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The first half of this article is just political SPAM. Any argument or discussion involving Australians will always devolve into a puerile argument of Labor vs Liberal politics, no matter what the subject matter, within 5 posts.

    Either side of politics would have done this. The greens (far left progressive) would have done this. The Labor mob (union-run socialists) would have done this. As it happens, the Liberals (actually middle-road conservatives) happen to be in power when it's done.

    I don't have a problem with it. I think online thievery should absolutely be blocked, along with sites facilitating terrorism, as determined by a court.
    I doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with a content provider's terms and conditions and fees. It doesn't create an entitlement for you. You're not entitled to appropriate other people's property because you disagree with them.

    Where did this unrealistic idea come from that all rules and laws are void, because internet?

  16. Re:Ugh what a shitty government by KGIII · · Score: 1

    I do not know, it was all well and good when the subject was the Polish the other day. I am not Polish or anything but I still found it immature and figured it would likely be offensive to Polish people. I suspect we have some Polish here as they have a vibrant and large tech community. I think I was the only person who said anything in the way of complaining about the antics. For an enlightened group we sure are passive about things that actually might be relevant.

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