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Study: Major ISPs Slowing Traffic Across the US
An anonymous reader writes: A study based on test results from 300,000 internet users "found significant degradations on the networks of the five largest internet service providers" in the United States. This group includes Time Warner Cable, Verizon, and AT&T. "The study, supported by the technologists at Open Technology Institute's M-Lab, examines the comparative speeds of Content Delivery Networks (CDNs), which shoulder some of the data load for popular websites. ... In Atlanta, for example, Comcast provided hourly median download speeds over a CDN called GTT of 21.4 megabits per second at 7pm throughout the month of May. AT&T provided speeds over the same network of of a megabit per second." These findings arrive shortly after the FCC's new net neutrality rules took effect across the U.S.
Would'a been, damn network...
This is a hacked account, for which the owner can not be held responsible.
I live in LA and subscribe to Time Warner. We pay for up to 40 Mbps in our apartment yet rarely see anything beyond... 21 (with only one device using the connection). Now that seems to make a little per sense...
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When you strongly regulate something the effects are negative for the consumer! What an astounding shock that must be to everyone except the people who tried to warn you!
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
You cannot throttle me, I have unlimited usage, it's in the contract! Quick, somebody turn them into the FCC for a fine or two.... Oh, you say it's just network congestion? Fat chance that's true, I want my NETFLIX to stream at the full 4K resolution or else.....
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
If the last mile ISPs are going to only allow balanced traffic for free (and last mile traffic is clearly not balanced by its nature) then we should fix the problem for them and generate enough upstream traffic to balance the equation. This is simple - answer one idiotic position with another idiotic position. Have Netflix go peer to peer and then manage traffic flow to create balanced traffic at all of the last mile ISPs. It's what they want ---- we should give it to them.
Since they can't get their way to squeeze more profit from their customers, they'll punish them instead.
Assholes.
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
In time, there might be viable alternatives to the big ISPs, but for now, there's a huge disparity between the price/speed of the US vs other modern countries. Things only need to get bad enough for people to notice, then we'll either regulate it or somebody will find a more competitive option.
The FCC has removed incentives for monopolistic ISPs to increase backbone network capacity since they are not allowed to derive any additional revenue to offset the cost of those investments...
Local governments authorize geographical monopolies, and the federal government says that ISPs can't charge content providers for faster service, so what is the motivation for improvements?
What you wanted was competition, instead you settled for net neutrality, solving a non-existent problem and changing the nature of the Internet to a heavily-regulated telcom service, so that it would remain as it was before regulation.
You changed the very nature of the Internet, in order to save it - reminds me of something a previous President said - he had to violate free market principles to save the free market... And oh how you all laughed when he said it, now you borrowed his logic.
Ken
Is it:
A. Actively punishing users?
B. The natural side-effect of the legal inability to shut out extreme bandwidth usages?
C. A coincidence?
D. A failure in the process of making changes required by the FCC?
E. Something else?
When they could set the terms the light users got good speeds, and bad users got crappy speeds.
Now they aren't allowed to set the speeds one of two things can happen:
- We all get good speeds.
- We all get crappy speeds.
Guess which one they chose?
In the worst case scenario, net neutrality activists will succeed. Why is that the "worst case"? Because it would mean that providers put in the infrastructure to deliver exact volumes at exact speeds. Your "up to 40 Mbps" service for some unspecified by large amount of data will turn into an "exactly 5 Mbps to the nearest office and a 5 Gbytes/month volume cap" at twice the price. But, hey, at least it's both "fair" and you get exactly what you paid for. Are you happy now?
Why the fuck can't slashdot fix the category/comments icons from covering the article title?
How can you tell? Internet speed tests only check the speed from that server to you, not network to network speeds.
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Looks like they are artifically throttling back traffic a) to charge the end users more later on to turn it back up again and b) to bypass net neutrality rules and divert the extra bandwidth to the media corporations.
I don't give a shit about anything on AT&T, Verizon or Time-Warner.
Actual network congestion could affect speeds. People buying streamers and "cloud gamers" streaming games... on a larger scale.
"higher definition" luring in people with a few McFunds that do not understand tech.
Our internet speeds are hopelessly degraded until the government data collection has been halted. The ISPs are unable to provide appropriate quality of service while they are expected to mirror all data that travels through their pipes. This has been a problem for over a decade now, I doubt it'll come to an end any time soon.
This is fucking hilarious.
GTT/Nlayer is a constant thorn of service providers (Hosting Companies) in the Atlanta area. They're one of the worst networks to talk to Comcast over and they refuse to do anything about it. Making carriers such as Hurricane Electric or Level 3 look better for Comcast largely fixes the issue.
It's also not limited to Atlanta each area of the company has carriers who just suck at what they do or the eyeball networks are forcing all the traffic across them and saturating peering points. Netflix peering be damnned they're trying the same crap with the other CDN's as well.
Well, there have been net neutrality pushes since 2006? I have heard that Netflix has been throttled, but they are the single biggest user of bandwith in the USA. Which web sites does this study say get throttled? Maybe the big ISPs are just trying to keep traffic down.
I want to see if they will actually slow down Facebook, Gmail, Amazon, and other web sites that don't guzzle data. If they do, it's time for socialism.
I have noticed slower speeds since last week when the official net neutrality rules took effect.
Yes, the article referenced doesn't point to the actual study directly, a but with a bit of goggling I found:
The battleground — where this degradation takes place — is at ISP interconnection points. These are the places where traffic requested by ISP customers crosses between the ISP’s network and another network on which content and application providers host their services.
This test measures whether interconnection points are experiencing problems. It runs speed measurements from your (the test user’s) ISP, across multiple interconnection points, thus detecting degraded performance.
What I don't understand is why people assume congestion is intentional throttling by ISPs for them to profit later with imagined fast lanes. Isn't the simpler assumption that it costs ISPs money to add interconnection capacity. And since their customers don't/can't choose ISPs based on the quality of their connection all the way to the popular content providers, the ISPs don't spend money on those upgrades? Usually the only thing customers have to go on and promised is the maximum download/upload speeds quoted by the ISP for the last mile.
In Cupertino, near Apple - suddenly AT&T is rolling GigaPower fiber to home with up to 1 Gbps speeds.
So have had 12 Mbps Uverse, until recently was not uncommon to see download speeds 12 Mbps. Curious if the GigaPower rollout was sandbagged until FCC regulation that now forces ISP to actually complete on service.
Hopefully by end of the week we'll have upgraded to GigaPower, will be curious to see if the actual higher down/up rates stay true.
at least where I live. I'm paying for up to 60 Mbps and when I test it the speed always falls between 50 and 65 (variations seem due to peak hours). Though I still wish I could pay less for 15 Mbps since I really don't need 60.
But diamondmagic promised us that his corporate masters had never done anything wrong ever to warrant net neutrality.
If you can't trust a shill, who can you trust?
With net neutrality, will the FCC force Comcast to slow down to ATT's speed? Everyone is supposed to get the same speed, is what the 'experts' claim the rule is for. Nobody gets throttled 'cause they can't charge more for higher speeds.
Was this article saying that Comcast actually does something right by their customers?
Like so many ppl I have 75/75 verizon fios and I'm only getting 800kb to 1.6mb download and about 2mb upload all the time over http/https. But, If i use p2p, a proxy server service, or download from an ftp server i get the full 10 Mbytes per second download which is 75/75 mbps service. I Checked, getting massive dropped packets. Resetting the main router and ont box does not fix anything. It's the verizon infrastructure gone to shit.
However, it will not matter. Google has invested into SpaceX internet sats, so, Google is likely going to drive these companies into the ground within 4 years.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Seriously, what really needs to happen is that we need to let the monopolies go. Once it looks like Google can come in at will, all of them will change their tune and improve the situation.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
This is why, as President of my condo-complex HOA Board (c.a. 100 units), I made sure that Verizon fiber was wired to every unit, just like Time Warner Cable had been years prior.
The result was real market competition. I switched. My bandwidth increased by about 15x (symmetric), with a reduction in price over the service TWC had formerly been (intermittently) providing.
"I just reply to you when I see you spamming Slashdot with your nonsense"- by dave420 (699308) on Friday June 19, 2015 @10:31AM (#49945047)
Why'd you agree w/ my points on hosts then? Quoting you:
"I'm not denying all those things" - by dave420 (699308) on Wednesday September 17, 2014 @11:39AM (#47927435) FROM -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
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I make creating a superior more efficient solution EASIER!
(That's more than a mere trolling stalking harassing "ne'er-do-well" like yourself could *EVER* manage).
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"I'm simply pointing out that it takes an AdBlocker to block your spamming"- by dave420 (699308) on Friday June 19, 2015 @10:31AM (#49945047)
I bother you? Then WHY DON'T YOU DO IT & use 'em? Answer that!
(You stalk/harass me instead!)
OBVIOUSLY you don't & you're a "ne'er-do-well" troll & you have "other motivations" (next):
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* QUESTION:
DO YOU WORK FOR AN ADVERTISING FIRM, or ARE YOU A WEBMASTER/WEBCODER http://slashdot.org/comments.p... , or a MALWARE MAKER, or ARE YOU AFFILIATED WITH 1 OF MY COMPETITORS?
Answer it!
As per your usual you'll avoid every question, or lie!
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APK
P.S.=> See Dave420 SQUIRM - evasions galore will ensue (as well as effete downmods to *try* vainly "hide it" -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )... apk
"I just reply to you when I see you spamming Slashdot with your nonsense"- by dave420 (699308) on Friday June 19, 2015 @10:31AM (#49945047)
Why'd you agree w/ my points on hosts then? Quoting you:
"I'm not denying all those things" - by dave420 (699308) on Wednesday September 17, 2014 @11:39AM (#47927435) FROM -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
Of course not: It's impossible to dispute HOSTS FILES superiority to other methods!
Since my points in favor of hosts SINGLE FILE native kernelmode faster part show hosts doing more w/ less vs. so-called 'competitors' many part messagepassing + cpu/ram use overheads laden slower usermode FAR MORE COMPLEX 'solutions' doing less than hosts do for more security, speed, reliability, + anonymity!
I make creating a superior more efficient solution EASIER!
(That's more than a mere trolling stalking harassing "ne'er-do-well" like yourself could *EVER* manage).
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"I'm simply pointing out that it takes an AdBlocker to block your spamming"- by dave420 (699308) on Friday June 19, 2015 @10:31AM (#49945047)
I bother you? Then WHY DON'T YOU DO IT & use 'em? Answer that!
(You stalk/harass me instead!)
OBVIOUSLY you don't & you're a "ne'er-do-well" troll & you have "other motivations" (next):
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* QUESTION:
DO YOU WORK FOR AN ADVERTISING FIRM, or ARE YOU A WEBMASTER/WEBCODER http://slashdot.org/comments.p... , or a MALWARE MAKER, or ARE YOU AFFILIATED WITH 1 OF MY COMPETITORS?
Answer it!
As per your usual you'll avoid every question, or lie!
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(YOU'VE BEEN EXPOSED in your "motives" in the last link just above & you KNOW it!)
APK
P.S.=> See Dave420 SQUIRM - evasions galore will ensue (as well as effete downmods to *try* vainly "hide it" -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )... apk