That's what the ground controller was telling the pilots, and I believe it. I've had to sit through a deicing process while boarded on a CRJ900 before, and it was about 20 minutes. The heavies are way bigger, and since they have to inspect the body after deicing to make sure they got it all, thats alot more plane to cover, so I can believe it takes longer.
The thing that surprised me is that the airport apparently doesnt have any deicing trunks. If you pull up a map of the airport, the area marked Ramp 20 are the deicing pads. Seems like it'd be a hell of alot more efficient to roll some decing trucks and hit the plane while it's at the gate.
That would be a valid question if it wasn't for the fact that problems at Hartsfield have a bigger effect than just the area of the country that rarely drops below freezing.
Busiest airport in the US. The only way you get to that state is by landing and departing a very large number of flights. There aren't enough flights in the southeast to garner that distinction, so when Hartsfield is fucked up, its more than just the southeast that's fucked up. Gotta stop thinking of Atlanta as just a georgia airport, its a hell of alot more important in domestic travel than that.
I was stuck at Hartsfield for 11 hours last week thanks to the snowstorm that hit Atlanta.
The snow wasn't all that bad. The problem was that the planes had to be deiced before they could take off. Hartsfield only has 4 de-icing pads. It takes about 15 to 20 minutes to de-ice a regional jet, about an hour to de-ice one of the heavies. I was listening to ground control pretty much the entire time (thank you LiveATC app), and it was a mess. Pilots weren't responding to directions properly, creating an even bigger traffic jam. There was no clear order in which the planes were going to be de-iced, it was decided by the airlines based on priority of flight and the order wasnt always communicated to the ground control tower, so the ground controllers couldn't even line them up in the order they were going to be de-iced. This combined with the lack of speed to de-ice the planes led to a number of flights having to return to the gate in order to avoid tripping over the 3 hour rule. This also resulted in other flights not pushing back from the gates, since once they close that cabin door, the 3 hour countdown begins. Incoming flights were delayed or cancelled because there weren't gates open for their passengers, and since inbound flights were getting cancelled, outbound flights were as well since the planes that would be servicing those outbound flights were no longer inbound.
It became apparent to me that this wasn't a weather problem. It was a major inefficiency in airline operations. Yeah, I know, it's Georgia (I lived in the Atlanta metro area for over 2 decades) and it doesn't snow that often, but you'd think the busiest airport in the US would be better equipped to handle something like de-icing planes, especially given the ripple effect that disruptions at Hartsfield has on not just US transport, but globally as well. The international disruption isn't that bad, those flights can be diverted pretty easily, but domestic flight? There aren't any nearby airports that are even close to capable of handling the load that Hartsfield does.
And then today there's a major power outage that disrupts one of the busiest travel weekends of the year.
Maybe now they'll pay attention and revamp Hartsfield's operations so that it doesn't fuck everyone plans up.
This may be valid as a backup internet solution. In my house, 180GB per month is certainly not enough, I doubt that would last a week. Not with 5 people and 4 Roku's and my Linux ISO downloading habit.
However, I'm in the rural SouthEast US, and I only have one internet provider (cable) available. My only backup solutions would be using an LTE modem, or resorting to HughesNet for Satellite. Which wouldn't be bad as backup solutions, but the cost for the meager amount of bandwidth they provide and the fact that it would cost more per month than my primary Internet feed, well, that's just a non-starter.
However, I suspect that given the nearness required for their high freq deployment, my location means that their 5G deployment won't make it my way anytime soon even if the cost is reasonable.
Yeah, I did something similar. new 55in Samsung SmartTV.
DirecTV box went on HDMI1, PS4 went on HDMI2, Roku went on HDMI3.
Wired it into the switch to update the firmware, disconnected immediately afterward.
I'd wanted to avoid a SmartTV if at all possible, but the fact of the matter is that with the local stock available and pricing, it was far more cost effective to buy the SmartTV and just leave it disconnected than it was to purposely hunt down a non-SmartTV with the specs I wanted
What if your TVs ran fine when you bought them, and that single firmware update was the beginning of a series of problems that are never going to be fixed?
That would assume that I bought them, used them, and one day decided to just go ahead and update the firmware for kicks.
No, the firmware got updated about 5 minutes after being powered on for the first time. If the firmware update caused a problem, it would have been pretty obvious in the days following, since I put the TV's through their intended use cases, and they would have gone back into the box and back to the store.
What you're describing is much more likely if I had been dumb enough to leave them with network connectivity and set themselves to auto update.
I just recently bought a pair of 55in Samsung Smart TVs
They each connected to the internet once for firmware updates, and were immediately disconnected afterwards. Unless there's a problem that requires me to update their firmware again, they won't ever be connected again.
All of the apps that the TV offers are already present on my Roku's and quite franky, the Roku's do it better
Then the airlines are going to lose a horrible amount of business. There's no way in hell I'm letting my personal laptop or work laptop out of my possession during travel. I will simply drive (I have to get a rental when I get to the location anyway) or I will take an alternate mode of transportation such as a bus or train. It may take a little longer, and will likely make my employer unhappy, but have to draw the line somewhere.
It's not a single attack vector. There are multiple CVE's for this. Some attack vectors do involve the AP, most involve the client. Both should be patched.
So reading through the article, it looks like he was smart enough to get rid of the records of his access on the logging servers, but got caught because he forgot to clear the logging buffers on the network gear.
With alot of users moving away from desktops and going for mobile devices, I'm not sure why anyone would still care about such a target. Given the amount of Android devices out there, Linux seems to be doing pretty damn well in that market, and I'll bet Android devices outnumber desktop computers these days
There's a big difference between 'ok, so the NSA knows who I've been having phone sex with and multiple people know what kind of porn I look at' and 'what do you mean I can't buy my dreamhouse? where the fuck did all these maxed out credit cards come from? I never opened those!'
This isn't privacy, this is identity, and folks will care alot more when it starts to effect them negatively.
They've said in the past that there are alot of factors that go into it. For example, the Seagates may fail more often, but they're also cheaper. And sometimes it comes down to simple availability. If they can't get the HGST drives in the capacity and quantity they want, well, they're a data storage company, it's not like they're *not* going to buy hard drives, even if they are more likely to fail.
I used to use all that crap until I found out about PiHole. Now I just have my networks clients use it for the primary name server. The DNS requests to the ad servers never make it out of my network, so they never see any requests from me. For the few things that do make it through, uBlock Origin gets those until the PiHole lists get updated. It's also pretty damned effective at eliminating telemetry data from making it outside the network.
Now, PiHole is basically just a glorified hosts file, but it allows me to handle things for the entire network instead of a device by device basis, as well as protecting those devices where I can't get at a hosts file (ie, mobiles)
Of course, this doesn't do anything about websites that set cookies and share their own data with advertisers, but there are other tools for dealing with that.
I'm up to three of them in the house now, and I wouldn't be surprised if another 2 or 3 got added in the next couple of years as the kids get older and want their own TV's in their rooms.
For my family, it aggregates the platforms we use to consume media (Plex for local, Netflix and Amazon Prime for non-local) into a single device that's simple to use and just works.
And after I figured out how much data they were sending back and Pi-Holed their telemetry domains, all was right with the world.
I do something like this. I have a Synology that's dedicated just to backups. All the important stuff gets backed up there, and from there, gets synced up into the cloud. The exception being my media library (cost prohibitive) and my linux servers. Since I use duplicity to backup my Linux servers, I back them up to the NAS and then kick them directly into B2. The biggest pain in the ass is the sync of full backups, since I have crappy upstream from the ISP
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Yeah, I suggest you Google 'Comcast' 'Sandvine' and 'BitTorrent' sometime. You might be surprised.
in order to exploit this. Yeah, not really seeing the big deal.
That's what the ground controller was telling the pilots, and I believe it. I've had to sit through a deicing process while boarded on a CRJ900 before, and it was about 20 minutes. The heavies are way bigger, and since they have to inspect the body after deicing to make sure they got it all, thats alot more plane to cover, so I can believe it takes longer.
The thing that surprised me is that the airport apparently doesnt have any deicing trunks. If you pull up a map of the airport, the area marked Ramp 20 are the deicing pads. Seems like it'd be a hell of alot more efficient to roll some decing trucks and hit the plane while it's at the gate.
That would be a valid question if it wasn't for the fact that problems at Hartsfield have a bigger effect than just the area of the country that rarely drops below freezing.
Busiest airport in the US. The only way you get to that state is by landing and departing a very large number of flights. There aren't enough flights in the southeast to garner that distinction, so when Hartsfield is fucked up, its more than just the southeast that's fucked up. Gotta stop thinking of Atlanta as just a georgia airport, its a hell of alot more important in domestic travel than that.
... won't someone please go all Darth Vader on his ass?
I was stuck at Hartsfield for 11 hours last week thanks to the snowstorm that hit Atlanta.
The snow wasn't all that bad. The problem was that the planes had to be deiced before they could take off. Hartsfield only has 4 de-icing pads. It takes about 15 to 20 minutes to de-ice a regional jet, about an hour to de-ice one of the heavies. I was listening to ground control pretty much the entire time (thank you LiveATC app), and it was a mess. Pilots weren't responding to directions properly, creating an even bigger traffic jam. There was no clear order in which the planes were going to be de-iced, it was decided by the airlines based on priority of flight and the order wasnt always communicated to the ground control tower, so the ground controllers couldn't even line them up in the order they were going to be de-iced. This combined with the lack of speed to de-ice the planes led to a number of flights having to return to the gate in order to avoid tripping over the 3 hour rule. This also resulted in other flights not pushing back from the gates, since once they close that cabin door, the 3 hour countdown begins. Incoming flights were delayed or cancelled because there weren't gates open for their passengers, and since inbound flights were getting cancelled, outbound flights were as well since the planes that would be servicing those outbound flights were no longer inbound.
It became apparent to me that this wasn't a weather problem. It was a major inefficiency in airline operations. Yeah, I know, it's Georgia (I lived in the Atlanta metro area for over 2 decades) and it doesn't snow that often, but you'd think the busiest airport in the US would be better equipped to handle something like de-icing planes, especially given the ripple effect that disruptions at Hartsfield has on not just US transport, but globally as well. The international disruption isn't that bad, those flights can be diverted pretty easily, but domestic flight? There aren't any nearby airports that are even close to capable of handling the load that Hartsfield does.
And then today there's a major power outage that disrupts one of the busiest travel weekends of the year.
Maybe now they'll pay attention and revamp Hartsfield's operations so that it doesn't fuck everyone plans up.
This may be valid as a backup internet solution. In my house, 180GB per month is certainly not enough, I doubt that would last a week. Not with 5 people and 4 Roku's and my Linux ISO downloading habit.
However, I'm in the rural SouthEast US, and I only have one internet provider (cable) available. My only backup solutions would be using an LTE modem, or resorting to HughesNet for Satellite. Which wouldn't be bad as backup solutions, but the cost for the meager amount of bandwidth they provide and the fact that it would cost more per month than my primary Internet feed, well, that's just a non-starter.
However, I suspect that given the nearness required for their high freq deployment, my location means that their 5G deployment won't make it my way anytime soon even if the cost is reasonable.
Yeah, I did something similar. new 55in Samsung SmartTV.
DirecTV box went on HDMI1, PS4 went on HDMI2, Roku went on HDMI3.
Wired it into the switch to update the firmware, disconnected immediately afterward.
I'd wanted to avoid a SmartTV if at all possible, but the fact of the matter is that with the local stock available and pricing, it was far more cost effective to buy the SmartTV and just leave it disconnected than it was to purposely hunt down a non-SmartTV with the specs I wanted
What if your TVs ran fine when you bought them, and that single firmware update was the beginning of a series of problems that are never going to be fixed?
That would assume that I bought them, used them, and one day decided to just go ahead and update the firmware for kicks.
No, the firmware got updated about 5 minutes after being powered on for the first time. If the firmware update caused a problem, it would have been pretty obvious in the days following, since I put the TV's through their intended use cases, and they would have gone back into the box and back to the store.
What you're describing is much more likely if I had been dumb enough to leave them with network connectivity and set themselves to auto update.
I just recently bought a pair of 55in Samsung Smart TVs
They each connected to the internet once for firmware updates, and were immediately disconnected afterwards. Unless there's a problem that requires me to update their firmware again, they won't ever be connected again.
All of the apps that the TV offers are already present on my Roku's and quite franky, the Roku's do it better
The Roku's do like to send data back to Roku's log servers.
However, that's easily preventable. I use PiHole to blacklist their telemetry domains and it doesn't interfere with the normal operation of the box
Cellebrite isn't infallible.
Then the airlines are going to lose a horrible amount of business. There's no way in hell I'm letting my personal laptop or work laptop out of my possession during travel. I will simply drive (I have to get a rental when I get to the location anyway) or I will take an alternate mode of transportation such as a bus or train. It may take a little longer, and will likely make my employer unhappy, but have to draw the line somewhere.
It's not a single attack vector. There are multiple CVE's for this. Some attack vectors do involve the AP, most involve the client. Both should be patched.
So reading through the article, it looks like he was smart enough to get rid of the records of his access on the logging servers, but got caught because he forgot to clear the logging buffers on the network gear.
Hope it was worth it!
*before* you tell someone you're going to fire them.
With alot of users moving away from desktops and going for mobile devices, I'm not sure why anyone would still care about such a target. Given the amount of Android devices out there, Linux seems to be doing pretty damn well in that market, and I'll bet Android devices outnumber desktop computers these days
There's a big difference between 'ok, so the NSA knows who I've been having phone sex with and multiple people know what kind of porn I look at' and 'what do you mean I can't buy my dreamhouse? where the fuck did all these maxed out credit cards come from? I never opened those!'
This isn't privacy, this is identity, and folks will care alot more when it starts to effect them negatively.
They've said in the past that there are alot of factors that go into it. For example, the Seagates may fail more often, but they're also cheaper. And sometimes it comes down to simple availability. If they can't get the HGST drives in the capacity and quantity they want, well, they're a data storage company, it's not like they're *not* going to buy hard drives, even if they are more likely to fail.
That's why you buy the iCar instead of the Surface Roll
For me, car travel time is wasted time. Even when I'm stuck in traffic, I still have to be paying attention.
Bring on the automated cars, I say. I'd much rather be able to read a book, take a nap, or do some actual work while in the act of traveling.
I used to use all that crap until I found out about PiHole. Now I just have my networks clients use it for the primary name server. The DNS requests to the ad servers never make it out of my network, so they never see any requests from me. For the few things that do make it through, uBlock Origin gets those until the PiHole lists get updated. It's also pretty damned effective at eliminating telemetry data from making it outside the network.
Now, PiHole is basically just a glorified hosts file, but it allows me to handle things for the entire network instead of a device by device basis, as well as protecting those devices where I can't get at a hosts file (ie, mobiles)
Of course, this doesn't do anything about websites that set cookies and share their own data with advertisers, but there are other tools for dealing with that.
The Roku app has their equivalent of AirPlay (Play on Roku) where you can stream content stored on your device directly to the Roku
I'm up to three of them in the house now, and I wouldn't be surprised if another 2 or 3 got added in the next couple of years as the kids get older and want their own TV's in their rooms.
For my family, it aggregates the platforms we use to consume media (Plex for local, Netflix and Amazon Prime for non-local) into a single device that's simple to use and just works.
And after I figured out how much data they were sending back and Pi-Holed their telemetry domains, all was right with the world.
I do something like this. I have a Synology that's dedicated just to backups. All the important stuff gets backed up there, and from there, gets synced up into the cloud. The exception being my media library (cost prohibitive) and my linux servers. Since I use duplicity to backup my Linux servers, I back them up to the NAS and then kick them directly into B2. The biggest pain in the ass is the sync of full backups, since I have crappy upstream from the ISP