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The Town That Banned Wi-Fi

An anonymous reader sends a story from The Guardian about Green Bank, West Virginia, a small town housing the National Radio Astronomy Observatory. There are other telescopes nearby, too. Because the telescopes are so sensitive, stray electromagnetic signals are strictly regulated in the surrounding area, which is called the National Radio Quiet Zone. But the town is running into a problem: its population was around 120 when this began, and by now about 40 people have moved there because they want to get away from radio waves and Wi-Fi signals and other types of electromagnetic radiation. There have been reports of tensions in the town: tales of threats and abuse unfitting to a sleepy mountain village. And it is all the stranger when you consider that no serious scientific study has been able to establish that electrosensitivity exists. ... Where the locals might have been happy to tolerate one or two of the sensitives, the mass migration was beyond the pale. ... People would walk towards [one woman] with concealed electronics, in an effort to provoke a reaction. A meeting she and her husband organised to help educate the others about electrosensitivity descended into a slanging match.

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  1. Re:"Other types of electromagnetic radiation" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Many people are sensitive not to EM radiation, but to seeing antennas. A telco here first installs the antenna systems on their towers (this is easier to do when everything is off and there are no feedlines connected), then a month later or so a technical team installs and connects the actual comms equipment.

    Health complaints start instantly when the (still disconnected) antennas are installed. Furthermore, receive only systems give the same amount of complaints as systems with active transmitters. Systems with hidden antennas (on a roof for example) give almost no complaints.

    Dish antennas give disproportionately many complaints, even though they are very directional and thus should not leak radiation where it is not desired.

  2. Re:"Other types of electromagnetic radiation" by dargaud · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have a perfect example here at work. After we installed a Wifi relay in the lobby, the idi^H^Hperson manning the entrance started taking sick days after sick days, claiming the wifi was making her sick. Problem was, it wasn't activated yet (building installation wasn't finished), but since it was already powered, it was blinking. Then we activated it and placed a piece of black tape on the LEDs, told her 'Fine, we won't be using it then', and all was fine.

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  3. Re:SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 5, Interesting

    no serious scientific study has been able to establish that electrosensitivity exists How come nobody had the common courtesy of a "simple" double blind experiment?

    It's ridiculous to think for even a second that this hasn't happened. Of course there are such studies.

    The two key words here are 'serious'. -A qualifier which isn't applied to any study which doesn't support the party line.

    No, it refers to controlled experiments run and managed in accordance with established best practice. On the other hand, you ARE guilty of dismissing studies based on conclusions, rather than methodology.

    -And specifying "electrosensitivity". -Which means tests demonstrating, (for one example), that the blood/brain barrier becomes permeable under exposure to certain low-power frequencies, regardless of its repeatability or implications, is not relevant if the study doesn't specifically look at somebody claiming "electrosensitivity".

    Some of the studies have focused on self-identified electrosensitives.

    Now let me talk about MY electro-sensitivity. There is a high-voltage power line that crosses the motorway on the route between my childhood home and where my grandparents used to live. When we went under it, I used to get a funny feeling in the top of my head -- every time, without fail. So someone if my family (I can't remember who) suggested that I shut my eyes and tell them when I felt it. For a year or two, I kept opening my eyes too early and seeing the powerlines before we went under them. So one year I got determined to do it properly. I closed my eyes as soon as we reached the first bend on the motorway and kept them shut for ten minutes or more. No sensation. Ever since then, I have felt nothing whatsoever when passing under the lines. I couldn't even make myself conjure up or relive the sensation.

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  4. Re:"Other types of electromagnetic radiation" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was going to suggest that the more sensible option would be to get rid of the woman as she was faking sickness to get days off - especially if the "sickness" goes when the light is off - but then she would probably have sued because just because it's psychosomatic it doesn't mean she's actually sick.

    A psychosomatic reaction _would_ mean she was sick. Symptoms such as inflammation, nausea, vomiting and diorreah can manifest due to purely psychosomatic causes.

    Just the same, people who believe this kind of nonsense still piss me off.

    Shoggoth.

    Posting anon due to mod points.

  5. Re:SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There was one time when an electricity pylon was placed on pasture land that became water-logged at certain times of the year.

    Whenever this happened, the cattle in the pasture would end up standing side on to the pylon. Whenever they moved into a position where the were standing perpendicular to the pylon, they would give a small jump and then turn sideways.

    Standing sideways, meant that the resitance between the near-pylon side of the cow and the far-from-pylon side of the cow, was less than the resistance when the cows were standing head-on. The difference in resistances in conjunction with the eddy currents that were being caused by the pylon set in boggy pasture caused small electric shocks.

    Try repeating your experiment on days when there are different levels of humidity.

    The atmospheric charge that builds up before a thunderstorm also feels distinctive. Try storm-chasing. :D

  6. Re:SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by myowntrueself · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Because mental disorders are taboo and nobody dares messing with those wackos.

    Also theres money to be made from delusional wackos, like the transgenders who'll pay for cosmetic surgery to help back up their delusion.

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