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High-Fat, High-Sugar Diet Can Lead To Cognitive Decline

An anonymous reader writes: Researchers from Oregon State University have completed a study into how the sugar and fat content of a diet relates to cognitive flexibility. They found that diets with high amounts of either led to a decline in cognitive function. "This effect was most serious on the high-sugar diet, which also showed an impairment of early learning for both long-term and short-term memory." After four weeks on a high-fat or high-sugar diet, the performance of mice on various mental and physical tests started dropping. One of the scientists, Kathy Magnusson, said, "We've known for a while that too much fat and sugar are not good for you. This work suggests that fat and sugar are altering your healthy bacterial systems, and that's one of the reasons those foods aren't good for you. It's not just the food that could be influencing your brain, but an interaction between the food and microbial changes."

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  1. High fat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What’s often referred to as the “Western diet,” or foods that are high in fat, sugars and simple carbohydrates, has been linked to a range of chronic illnesses in the United States, including the obesity epidemic and an increased incidence of Alzheimer’s disease.

    The part about fat has being disproved in the last several years.

    This is just one study. We'll see if the results can be duplicated.

    1. Re:High fat? by LesPeters · · Score: 2

      If they took the "Standard American Diet" and added fat, then yes, I can see that being a problem, but from the carbohydrates that are still there.

      I didn't see any reference to how the tests were ran, so it is very challenging to properly understand how they reached their conclusions.

      I have been running on a LCHF way of eating for nearly 2 years, with zero negative impacts.

    2. Re:High fat? by rmdingler · · Score: 4, Interesting
      This. Quit the knee jerk reactions and instant dieting habits swing based on the last episode of Dr Oz.

      Enjoy a few decadent meals each month, and balance that with plenty of salads, fruits, and vegetables. Avoid the processed food poison.

      Shite, you might even exercise once in a while.

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    3. Re:High fat? by nucrash · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This and more.

      I have switched to low sugar, low carb, and started working out five times a week, two days of lifting, three days of cardio with running 5K or more on the weekends and managed to lose 40 lbs in 8 weeks. That's over 15% of my body mass.

      While the level of insanity that I endured for this is a bit much, I can attest to the fact that the amount of crap we add in American diets is excessive to the point of "we need to stop hurting ourselves"

      The biggest guidelines that I have for myself is if it's designed to sit on a shelf for a long time, it's not designed to be consumed and carbs are great, only if you have a plan to burn them off.

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    4. Re:High fat? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 5, Informative

      managed to lose 40 lbs in 8 weeks.

      Losing 300+ grams (11+ oz) a day is generally considered seriously unhealthy. Yeah, you started from a seriously unhealthy weight, but continuing a diet like that is a really bad idea.

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    5. Re:High fat? by tburkhol · · Score: 2

      so in other words it's okay to put poisons in food as long as you pretend to list them on the label

      Why do you care how I kill myself, as long as I'm making an informed decision?

      The lifetime cost of diabetes is around $85,000, so I suppose you might argue that my poor diet raises your health insurance premiums. The lifetime cost of a single knee replacement is around $130,000, so I would counter that it is 3x more expensive to be an avid runner who wears out both his knees than to be a diabetic.

  2. Re:Unhealthy food is tasty. Healthy food is boring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Healthy food is tasty as hell once your palette has had a chance to get used to it again. All I can ever taste anymore with so much food in the States is either salt or sugar/HFCS. It's so fucking gross.

  3. Re:Must've been the "Beef Jerky Lobby" by master_kaos · · Score: 2

    except you look at a lot of the big branded beef jerky on the grocery store and they are full of added sugars as well.

  4. Re:Unhealthy food is tasty. Healthy food is boring by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Funny

    Healthy food is tasty as hell once your palette has had a chance to get used to it again. All I can ever taste anymore with so much food in the States is either salt or sugar/HFCS. It's so fucking gross.

    Pipe down, and eat your tofurky.

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  5. Re:Unhealthy food is tasty. Healthy food is boring by mi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Healthy food is tasty as hell once your palette has had a chance to get used to it again

    No, when your palette gets used to it again, it becomes bearable ("as hell" is quite an apt a metaphor, actually) — but not especially tasty. Ice-cream or chocolate will still trump "healthy" and an ongoing effort of will is required to stick to broccoli.

    I'd say, the results of the study show, that we increase cognitive abilities, when experiencing shortages, rather than decline, when eating, what we want. Which makes sense from evolutionary stand-point — if you are starving, you better think harder about finding sustenance...

    But, however one spins the same facts, we better adapt to the 21st century of plenty. All of our evolution to day was spent with starvation constantly looming and occasionally hitting whereas today — and only for the last few decades — "starving" became a synonym for "dieting". And that we view the thinness as beautiful today is not a result of some evil conspiracy, but simply a reflection of what is healthy today — for a never-starving Westerner. Our super-thin ideals of today would not have survived even in the 19th century... The still-hungry Africans, for a counter-example, still think "fat is beautiful" and Mauritania even has a concept of "wife-fattening".

    It is not "cultural" — they just still remember famine, whereas the "golden billion" has blissfully forgotten it.

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  6. Re:Unhealthy food is tasty. Healthy food is boring by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Healthy food is tasty as hell once your palette has had a chance to get used to it again. All I can ever taste anymore with so much food in the States is either salt or sugar/HFCS. It's so fucking gross.

    Well, if all you seek out and eat in the US is fast food, or the lower level chain restaurants, then sure, that's all you're gonna get.

    If you shop for and buy processed foods (the goop in the center aisles of the grocery store), again, yes, this is all your gonna get.

    But if you take a little time and look around, VERY good food choices can be had. And there is really NO excuse for only having bad foods at home. Ever heard of cooking? (and no, I don't mean popping something pre-made/frozen in the fucking microwave).

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  7. Reverse be true by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2

    Would switching to a high veggie low fat diet reverse the trend and rebalence flora?

    It has been stated weight gains happen with fecal transplants. So different flora over time could reverse

  8. Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. by savuporo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And i quote:
    As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point. Natural selection, the process by which the strongest, the smartest, the fastest, reproduced in greater numbers than the rest, a process which had once favored the noblest traits of man, now began to favor different traits. Most science fiction of the day predicted a future that was more civilized and more intelligent. But as time went on, things seemed to be heading in the opposite direction. A dumbing down. How did this happen? Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most, and left the intelligent to become an endangered species.

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  9. Re:Unhealthy food is tasty. Healthy food is boring by Faust6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There's something to be said for laziness. It's easy to cook up a healthy, tasty, low-effort inexpensive meal, but convenience seems to trump all of that for a good chunk of the populace. Nobody knows or cares how to cook up a decent meal.

  10. Re:Unhealthy food is tasty. Healthy food is boring by ljw1004 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you shop for and buy processed foods (the goop in the center aisles of the grocery store), again, yes, this is all your gonna get. But if you take a little time and look around, VERY good food choices can be had.

    It's not that easy. At QFC and Safeway, EVERY bread they sell is overly sweetened. The only bread I've found without too much sugar is Trader Joe's rye.

  11. Sugar, Fat to become Schedule 1 restricted drugs by Spinlock_1977 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Recent studies have researchers concerned that pot use in the under-18 crowd causes cognitive decline. Since pot is a Schedule 1 (most restrictive) substance in the US, I argue sugar and fat must also be put on Schedule 1 since our Oregon friends at OSU have discovered similar effects in youngsters.

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  12. Once again by crmarvin42 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    omce again human nutritional claims are being based on rodent model work, despite there being very little reason to expect the results to e replicable in humans. Stop giving PRELIMINARY and non-confirmed trials coverage as though they actually mean something. This trial only applies to mice at the moment. Maybe it can be extrapolated to all rodents in general, but the leap from rodents to humans directly is pure bull shit over reach.

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  13. Re:Unhealthy food is tasty. Healthy food is boring by sribe · · Score: 2

    It's not that easy. At QFC and Safeway, EVERY bread they sell is overly sweetened. The only bread I've found without too much sugar is Trader Joe's rye.

    So what??? Bread should be a TINY portion of your diet. At QFC and Safeway it is trivially easy to find whole-food products: fruits, vegetables, whole grains, meats, dairy...

  14. Re:Unhealthy food is tasty. Healthy food is boring by Minwee · · Score: 2

    Yeah well, I'm sure I would learn to really appreciate the taste of dogshit if all I ate every day was dogshit. But that doesn't make it tasty to anyone else.

    That's okay. If nobody else likes it, more dogshit for you.

  15. Re:Unhealthy food is tasty. Healthy food is boring by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's not that easy. At QFC and Safeway, EVERY bread they sell is overly sweetened. The only bread I've found without too much sugar is Trader Joe's rye.

    Well...breads would indeed be one of the 'goop' type highly processed foods found in the center aisles I was talking about.

    IMHO, it should be eliminated or at least made an extremely small portion of your diet. Try sticking to veggies, fruits and animal proteins. And yes, for some people I think a bit of dairy is ok. Just try to stick to foods that don't spike your blood insulin and for the most part, you should be ok.

    If the label has ingredients you can't readily decipher, or pronounce, likely as not, it should not be something you want to consume.

    Or, if the top ingredients include sugar or HFCS...you should likely pass that one by too.

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  16. Re:Unhealthy food is tasty. Healthy food is boring by Faust6 · · Score: 2

    This misconstrues so much. First, beyond the fact that it's not up to you what the study shows (without even reading it no less), lets [i]assume[/i] that we experience an increase in cognitive ability during a shortage. You're deciding to conflate sustenance with "eating what we want" when the dialogue here is healthy vs unhealthy - as if to depict healthy eating as a shortage when, in actuality, poor eating habits cause malnutrition along with obesity. Ironically that's the true shortage in this context. I promise you that eating shit food isn't increasing your cognitive ability. Second, I'd say Western society's conception of what healthy is is not necessarily in line with media's depiction, which wavers anyway (this seems to be "generation ass", as hips are back in favor and seemingly larger than those of 40's pinups.. not universally of course, but prominently). Third, It's amusing to think that super-thin idols "wouldn't have survived" in the 19th century when the vast majority (i.e. the peasant class) had to do just that, farming and supplying meats to the upper-class while surviving on soup and hard bread, laboring for long hours. The revolution in eating habits for proletariat didn't really occur until the 20th century for most of the world, mind you this happened quicker in the U.S. than, say, Italy.

  17. Re:Unhealthy food is tasty. Healthy food is boring by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think you meant you'd eat it like Doritos if they added flavoring they way they do to junk food.

  18. Re:Unhealthy food is tasty. Healthy food is boring by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2

    It would be interesting to see what we came up with if a significant number of people knew that working on things they're interested in was a viable choice. You could also no longer use the excuse "but I have to eat" for doing unethical things at the behest of your employer. Which is why it will probably never happen.

  19. Re:Unhealthy food is tasty. Healthy food is boring by jonnyj · · Score: 2

    Healthy food is tasty as hell once your palette has had a chance to get used to it again

    No, when your palette gets used to it again, it becomes bearable ("as hell" is quite an apt a metaphor, actually) — but not especially tasty. Ice-cream or chocolate will still trump "healthy" and an ongoing effort of will is required to stick to broccoli.

    Speak for yourself: tasty vs bearable is learned behaviour. I travel a fair bit, and the USA is a major outlier in what's regarded as tasty. To many (maybe most) Europeans, typical mainstream US food is pretty unpleasant - too much salt, too sweet, too over-seasoned, too thick, too bright, too colourful, too large, too in-your-face. That's why many products like soft drinks are formulated differently for European markets to match local tastes.

    Personally, I'll take a light lunch in an Italian trattoria, a French bistro, a Greek Taverna or a Spanish tapas bar ahead of your ice-cream or chocolate any day, thank you very much. I could happily live the rest of my life without chocolate, but the thought of a tomato-free existence would destroy my soul.

  20. Re:Unhealthy food is tasty. Healthy food is boring by GLMDesigns · · Score: 2

    I guess it depends on what you consider to be healthy. A good peasant bread, cheese, tomatoes, olives and wine is what I consider to be healthy food. Eggs are healthy. The only food that is unhealthy are those pre-packaged with tons of salt, sugar and fat and have had all it's nutrients removed in the cooking and preserving stages.

    Pasta and red sauce is healthy.
    Roasted chicken is healthy.
    Avocado is healthy.
    Walnuts and almonds are healthy.

    Sushi is healthy.

    There's tons of delicious healthy stuff.

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  21. So that's why... by whitroth · · Score: 3, Funny

    So many people in the US South, whose cooking and tastes are high on both, keep voting against their own self-interest....

                  mark, wondering what the average diet of a libertarian is

  22. Re:Unhealthy food is tasty. Healthy food is boring by mi · · Score: 2

    it's not up to you what the study shows

    It certainly is up to the reader (myself include). The study offers the following finding: people with plenty of fats and sugars have lower cognitive ability than those, who do not. Whether

    • the latter is "normal" and the former — "decreased", or
    • the former is "normal" and the latter — "elevated"

    is a debate as sensible, as arguing about a half-empty/full glass.

    conflate sustenance with "eating what we want" when the dialogue here is healthy vs unhealthy

    That the study makes no distinction between the two vastly different classes of foods — sugars and fats — leads me to the conclusion, that the key here is the total caloric intake, not the particular foods.

    Third, It's amusing to think that super-thin idols "wouldn't have survived" in the 19th century when the vast majority (i.e. the peasant class) had to do just that

    Yes, they had to do that, and perished periodically from famines.

    The revolution in eating habits for proletariat didn't really occur until the 20th century for most of the world, mind you this happened quicker in the U.S. than, say, Italy.

    Of course — because the US is a vastly richer (and better governed) country, which maintained a far better standards of living than others throughout its history.

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  23. Re:Unhealthy food is tasty. Healthy food is boring by GLMDesigns · · Score: 2

    Oh! Was I supposed to read the article?

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