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Why Didn't Voyager Visit Pluto?

Flash Modin writes: NASA built the twin Voyager spacecraft for a rare planetary alignment that put Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune within reach at once. Originally, Voyager 1 was programmed to see Pluto in 1986, but managers targeted Saturn's planet-like moon Titan instead. That choice made Pluto impossible by vaulting Voyager 1 from the orbital plane. Interestingly, Voyager 2, which couldn't reach Pluto, made the case for New Horizons by revealing Neptune's moon Triton as a kidnapped Pluto. "I'm very glad that they chose not to go to Pluto in 1986," says New Horizons head Alan Stern. "We'll do a better job at Pluto with modern instruments than they would have, and they did a much better job at Saturn..."

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  1. I'm not saying it was aliens by known_coward_69 · · Score: 5, Funny

    but there is a secret alien base on Pluto

    1. Re:I'm not saying it was aliens by frovingslosh · · Score: 2

      So it wasn't because Neil deGrasse Glactus had destroyed Pluto?

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  2. Because titan has ice, pluto isn't even a planet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Titan has the possibility of extraterrestrial life, the finding of which would mark one of the biggest discoveries in the history of the human race and end all doubts that we are alone in the universe.
    Pluto is a cold rock on the outskirts of the solar system.
    Which one would you rather investigate?

  3. Avoiding Yuggoth is smart! by trenien · · Score: 2
    Come on! Remember your classics. Despite whatever disinformation later propaganda agent/writers may have claimed, Lovecraft himself revealed that Pluto is actually Yuggoth.

    You really don't want to anger those living there now. Those NASA engineers knew what they were doing...

  4. Re:No proof. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So do you if you don't see the obvious humor.

  5. Re:Because titan has ice, pluto isn't even a plane by sectokia · · Score: 2

    If you read the commentary at the time, they simple wanted to project one out in the plane of the solar system and one out towards its axis. I believe Voyager 1 still hasn't passed pluto if projected back down onto its orbital plane.

  6. Carl Sagan thought Titan was more important by mbone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Carl Sagan thought it was more important to get close to Titan, which made a gravity assist for Pluto impossible. I think he hoped that there would be good pictures of the hypothesized Methane seas, but in the event the Titan haze made the surface just a blur.

    What the close Titan approach did provide was a radio occultation of the Titan atmosphere, showing how deep it was and something of its structure.

    In space flight, as in life, you have to chose, and they chose Titan.

    1. Re:Carl Sagan thought Titan was more important by mbone · · Score: 5, Informative

      How do you think these decisions are made? Carl Sagan was involved with basically every NASA planetary mission (including Apollo) from 1960 through Voyager and Viking. He proposed that Titan might have a lot of hydrocarbons (it does) a thick atmosphere (it does), haze (check) and maybe a biosphere (the jury is still out). (He did propose a strong greenhouse for Titan, and struck out there. The surface is not as balmy as he hoped.) As far as I can remember, no one was proposing a biosphere for Pluto (we didn't even know Pluto had a moon at that point). The decision to do a Titan close approach was rational, and (while it certainly wasn't his decision alone) his advocacy for it carried a lot of weight.

    2. Re:Carl Sagan thought Titan was more important by NormalVisual · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And what gives him the authority to dictate to NASA how to run their space program?

      Mostly the fact that he was one of the most prominent and well-rounded planetary astronomers and astrobiologists in the world, and the fact that he had a pretty good batting average in predicting conditions on Venus, Europa, and other bodies that were later confirmed. Sagan didn't dictate the Voyagers' itineraries, but NASA sure as hell wanted to know what he had to say.

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    3. Re:Carl Sagan thought Titan was more important by mbone · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There was one other thing that cinched it (IIRC) - the original mission goal for Voyager was to explore the Jupiter and Saturn systems (NOT to do the "grand tour"). For the planning for Voyager I, the mission goals hadn't been completed (as neither Voyager had gotten to Saturn at that point), and Sagan made a strong case that the mission goal should include Titan, and that the mission goals should be completed to the extent possible with Voyager I. When Voyager II came to Saturn, the mission goals had been met (by Voyager I), so they could take the gravity assist to go on to Uranus and Neptune on an extended mission.

    4. Re:Carl Sagan thought Titan was more important by ihtoit · · Score: 2

      apart from most of the mission itinerary? Oh, not much...

      And you can thank him for the "Pale Blue Dot" mosaic, which in my very humble opinion is one of the most beautiful images ever taken by a manmade probe.

      https://upload.wikimedia.org/w... (halfway down the brown band on the right of the image, that half a pixel of blueish white.

      From this distant vantage point, the Earth might not seem of any particular interest. But for us, it's different. Consider again that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

      The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner. How frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity – in all this vastness – there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

      The Earth is the only world known, so far, to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment, the Earth is where we make our stand. It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.

      —Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space, 1997 reprint, pp. xv–xvi

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  7. Pluto was on away at the time by backslashdot · · Score: 4, Funny

    Pluto was on away on a planetary midgets conference.

  8. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_Grand_Tour by Richard+Kirk · · Score: 4, Informative

    The original "Planetary Grand Tour" project would have visited Pluto, but it relied on a planetary alignment that would have to have started in 1976 or 1977. It was originally announced as a single craft, which became four before it was cancelled (I don't remember that, but for a brief history, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...). This was replaced by the two Voyager satellites launched in 1977. The later launch date made Pluto harder to visit, but it was still possible.

  9. Re:Because titan has ice, pluto isn't even a plane by dreamchaser · · Score: 2

    It's Charon, not Sharon and it has other satellites, Nix, Hydra, Styx, and Kerberos.

  10. Hello my baby! by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why Didn't Voyager Visit Pluto?

    Because of the bark, you dummies!

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  11. What don't I like about this headline? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why Didn't Voyager Visit Pluto?

    Why is this asked as a question, when the summary does in fact have the answer? Why not just headline it thus:

    Why Voyager didn't visit Pluto

    Then I'd be less likely to mistake it for another speculative piece of guff from a professional blog writer, which we already have plenty of.

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  12. The real reason by gvanbelle · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I had the opportunity to ask Ed Stone, the JPL Director & Voyager scientist, this question. His rather glib answer was, "well, Titan was 3 hours away, and Pluto was 3 years away - and I had to make payroll." I think the broader answer is that JPL assumed they'd get another mission funded if they simply skipped it (and they almost did).

  13. Re:Because titan has ice, pluto isn't even a plane by thrich81 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Technically the Pluto-Charon system is not a primary with a satellite, but a double system. The center of mass of the system is not within either body, but in the space between them. Anyway, several asteroids have been found to have tiny satellites, so owning a satellite doesn't count for much anyway.

  14. Re:Because titan has ice, pluto isn't even a plane by NormalVisual · · Score: 4, Informative

    I believe Voyager 1 still hasn't passed pluto if projected back down onto its orbital plane.

    Voyager 1 is almost 20 billion miles away from us now, and is traveling about 35 degrees out of the ecliptic. Some really rough trigonometry shows that if you project that down onto the ecliptic, it's still about 16 billion miles away from the Sun, which is almost three times the length of the long axis of Pluto's entire orbit.

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  15. Re:Because titan has ice, pluto isn't even a plane by mister_playboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Technically the Pluto-Charon system is not a primary with a satellite, but a double system. The center of mass of the system is not within either body, but in the space between them. .

    As I love to point out, the problem with this definition is that it also applies to the Sun-Jupiter system.

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  16. Re:Because titan has ice, pluto isn't even a plane by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, the moons have been renamed now that it's a dwarf planet. Sharon, Tracy, Debbie, Jessica, and Steve.

    Steeeve!

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  17. Re:Because titan has ice, pluto isn't even a plane by idji · · Score: 2

    That's lovely that "your" definition of a planet concerns "moons", but the astronomical community differs with you.
    Why do you think that having moons important to being a planet?

  18. Re:Because titan has ice, pluto isn't even a plane by careysub · · Score: 2

    Technically the Pluto-Charon system is not a primary with a satellite, but a double system. The center of mass of the system is not within either body, but in the space between them. .

    As I love to point out, the problem with this definition is that it also applies to the Sun-Jupiter system.

    This is true and will remain true for another billion and a half years at which point the Sun will have expanded enough to put the barycenter under the surface of the photosphere. The barycentric point (as it is known) if at 1.068 solar radii.

    The location of the barycentric point is of some interest, but isn't really very meaningful in defining the properties of two body systems.

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  19. Re:Because titan has ice, pluto isn't even a plane by techno-vampire · · Score: 4, Informative

    One of the things accomplished by taking Voyager I behind Titan was a direct measurement of the thickness and density of Titan's atmosphere. They did this, btw, by measuring how much of the probe's signal was absorbed before it was completely occluded and by how long it took the signal to come back to normal strength after it came out on the other side. And to show you how good the navigation was, closest approach was less than two radii out, meaning that if it had been cut in half, Voyager would have collided with Titan instead of just passing closely. I know this, because I spent some time at JPL in the mid 1980s and am slightly acquainted with the man who came up with the idea and did most of the work involved.

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  20. Re:Because titan has ice, pluto isn't even a plane by Opyros · · Score: 2

    Actually, James Christy named it after his wife, Charlene. The family called her Char, and he realized he could name it after her under the pretext of using a name from Classical mythology which was conveniently associated with Pluto/Hades.

  21. Re:Because titan has ice, pluto isn't even a plane by MouseR · · Score: 2

    It was rejected because Pluto is still bigger than Charon and while pluto wobbles around the barycentre, Charon still orbits then both thus making it a moon.

    Begs to think what to call binary star systems when they have the same conditions, like Polaris (yes: the polar star is a binary star system consisting of Polaris A and Polaris B).

    I love watching binaries on my telescope. Started with the realization that Ursula Majopris (the Great Dipper) also included binary stars. Mizar (the second star from the tip of the dipper handle) is a binary, as Polaris, observable with domestic telescope (I use a 6" Celestron Nexstar 6SE).

  22. Re:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_Grand_T by Solandri · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While the planetary alignment was convenient, it isn't exactly necessary on RTG-powered spacecraft. Pioneer 11 visited Jupiter, then flew to almost the opposite side of the solar system to visit Saturn. Longer travel time (and greater chance of equipment failure during that time) is the only drawback.

    Another factor working against a Pluto encounter was the lack of sunlight that far out. During Voyager 2's encounter with Neptune (which was slightly further away from the sun than Pluto at the time), sunlight was so dim that NASA had to reprogram the cameras to take longer exposures than they were originally designed. Then someone calculated that Voyager 2 would be moving so fast that the photos of Neptune would be blurred just by the changing parallax between the spacecraft and Neptune. So they programmed the spacecraft and cameras to rotate slightly during the exposures, effectively panning the camera to cancel out the changing parallax.

    All this happened so quickly they got just one shot at it, and they had to do it blind. By the time the first near photos reached Earth, if they had turned out to be blurred, any correcting instructions sent to Voyager 2 would have arrived after the spacecraft had passed Neptune. So NASA wasn't even sure if the closest Neptune and Triton photos would even be aimed correctly. Heck, they weren't even sure they were going to make it to Triton (Voyager 2 flew less than 5000 km over Neptune's North pole to get to Triton). But as it was the last major destination and they'd recently discovered an atmosphere on Triton, they figured what the heck and rolled the dice. As it turned out, they got everything right, and Voyager returned some spectacular Neptune and Triton photos.

    A Pluto encounter would've run into the same problem. Except Pluto is a much smaller target than Neptune, whose mass (and therefore gravity) is much less accurately known so properly aiming the camera is even trickier. Even New Horizons (with newer, more sensitive cameras) is going to have to use the same panning trick Voyager 2 used at Neptune. New Horizons is moving fast enough it could cover the distance from the Earth to the Moon in less than 8 hours, so all the close-up photos and measurements of Pluto are going to be over in a matter of hours. And it's basically guiding itself - providing the most accurate measurements we have of Pluto's mass so we can fine-tune its trajectory as it approaches Pluto.