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How Uber Takes Over a City

schwit1 suggests Bloomberg's story on one aspect of Uber's corporate behavior that may leave a sour taste in the mouth of anyone who'd like to believe the Uber-vs.-the-Cartels narrative. The company hired David Plouffe, known for managing Barack Obama's rise to fame, and many others as well, to help them navigate inevitable and ongoing moves for regulation. The scale is impressive; according to the article: Over the past year, Uber built one of the largest and most successful lobbying forces in the country, with a presence in almost every statehouse. It has 250 lobbyists and 29 lobbying firms registered in capitols around the nation, at least a third more than Wal-Mart Stores. That doesn't count municipal lobbyists. In Portland, the 28th-largest city in the U.S., 10 people would ultimately register to lobby on Uber's behalf. And while the article focuses mostly on the example of Portland, the effort is ongoing and nationwide.

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  1. Re:Damn you Uber by msobkow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You think an illegal immigrant is going to apply for a commercial driver's license as required by taxi companies?

    Methinks you're confusing "immigrant" with "illegal immigrant." But don't feel too bad. There are millions of bigots like you out there, so you're not alone.

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  2. Bullshit narrative ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Uber vs the Evil Cartels has always been a pile of shit, designed to appeal to a certain kind of idiot who will drool all over it ... but it's a lie, and it's always been a lie.

    It's systematically ignoring laws and regulations while going "wah wah, we're teh underdogs".

    Nothing could be further from the truth.

    Uber are just a bunch of self entitled douchebags, with a lot of backing who throw temper tantrums to insist they be allowed to not be covered under laws.

    Fuck Uber.

    1. Re:Bullshit narrative ... by king+neckbeard · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Uber being self-entitled douchebags doesn't preclude evil cartels.

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    2. Re: Bullshit narrative ... by stealth.c · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's the laws that are bullshit. Look at what kind of service Uber facilitates. How is it that only now anyone is introducing a reputation system to this industry? How is it that only now the barrier of entry to this industry is coming down? What exactly does a stringently controlled supply of government-licensed "taxi" drivers do for the consumer anyway?

  3. Re:if the govt operates via bribes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, the right fix is to take over the government and keep the bribes for yourself.

    It's only common sense.

  4. Re: Replacing the cartel by fluffernutter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's not a monopoly, but you have to admit, it is a whole new level of having money float to the top while paying the workers nothing. In my mind this is worse than a monopoly.

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  5. Re:GOOD. by fluffernutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unless you have been in a serious accident in an Uber car and had to rely on whatever insurance was in place for treatment, you haven't really had the full experience yet.

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  6. Re:Damn you Uber by BitZtream · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You do realize as soon as you do something as stupid as using 'MURICAN' you utterly destroy any validity in your argument what so ever. You had potential, but blew it by being as ignorant as the opposing view.

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  7. Re: Uber isn't stupid by stealth.c · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Americans seem to have a gigantic blind spot when it comes to government corruption. Sure, people tend to nod at generic whining about "corrupt politicians" but they are hopelessly incapable of spotting that corruption when it happens. They will blame non-government actors all day long for making and offering bribes. As for the politicians who habitually take bribes? Crickets.

  8. Re:Damn you Uber by eulernet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but that your argument relies on an assumed, and unjustified, premise.

    It's not my argument. Here is the original article in french:
    http://www.slate.fr/story/1034...

    This in turn could lead to more taxi journeys, or more jobs in other service sectors, as people spend that saved money elsewhere

    Yes, there is this theory about redistributing money, but I call that bullshit.

    People who take a taxi are not the poorest ones.
    When you take a taxi, it means that you can afford it (there is an amusing story about an INA director who spent 40,000 euros on taxis each year).
    When you have no money, you use the public transportation (it's reasonably cheap in France).

    It's easy to criticize the taxi drivers, because they are too expensive.
    If you were in the shoes of a taxi driver, don't you believe that this system is killing your job ?

    Right now, programmers and system admins are very expensive.
    Let's imagine an Uber for our jobs in a near future.
    I'm sure that you'll enjoy this service.
    After all, this is called "progress" and "free market" !