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People Are Obtaining Windows 7 Licenses For the Free Windows 10 Upgrade

jones_supa writes: Windows 7 has quickly started increasing its market share of desktop operating systems, nearing 61%. If you're wondering why this is happening when Windows 10 is almost here, the reason is this: Windows 10 will be available as a free upgrade for those running Windows 7 and 8, and the new OS will have the exact same hardware requirements as its predecessor, so the majority of PCs should be able to run it just as well. Because Windows 7 was launched in 2009, a license is more affordable than for Windows 8, so many users are switching to this version to take advantage of the Windows 10 free upgrade offer.

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  1. 10th post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Used to be 7th post.

    1. Re:10th post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The 9th post has been removed to prevent confusion with the 95th and 98th posts.

    2. Re:10th post by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      I only read every other comment.

    3. Re:10th post by flappinbooger · · Score: 2

      I only read every other comment.

      BAM!

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  2. Assumptions are the mother of all ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Nice theory, but it's not 'the reason' unless it is proven to be. What about the people replacing XP or Vista? And the disappointed 8.x users switching to 7?

    1. Re: Assumptions are the mother of all ... by mattwarden · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Technically the reason is the reason regardless of whether you have yet proved it is the reason.

    2. Re: Assumptions are the mother of all ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      lol. I purchased several with the express intent to not upgrade.

    3. Re: Assumptions are the mother of all ... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Funny

      Technically the reason is the reason regardless of whether you have yet proved it is the reason.

      A very reasonable statement.

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    4. Re:Assumptions are the mother of all ... by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If I could find a good high-end laptop that came with vanilla Windows 7 instead of 8 and all the pre-installed extra junk, I would be throwing money at the supplier and begging them to sell me one. That has far more to do with avoiding more recent versions of Windows and their kindergarten, touch-obsessed UIs than it does with wanting a cheap upgrade when 10 ships.

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    5. Re:Assumptions are the mother of all ... by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2

      But the screenshots I've seen of Windows 10 still mostly look flat and/or garish, and it seems to be more a case of trying not to make the visuals too much worse than what is already available via Windows 7 than actually trying to be better. Another example is the icons, which have gone from being widely ridiculed to being... well, slightly less widely ridiculed... in all of the reviews I've come across, and with considerable justification if the examples I've seen myself were representative.

      It's not just the visuals that put me off, though. It's also the fact that I use a traditional desktop PC with multiple large monitors, and I want an OS and software that work well in that kind of environment. I saw a review the other day of the new preview release where literally every screenshot that had substantial content in it also included the word "tap" somewhere, with obvious concessions to touchscreens that just don't make sense for a desktop workstation. This was one of the big problems with Windows 8, and it seems like with the Surface tablet hardware and Windows 10, Microsoft are doubling down on touchscreens. #donotwant #haverealworktodo

      I'll wait to see what people say when Windows 10 actually ships and we're not just talking about preview releases and educated guesswork, but so far the signs don't seem promising. Windows 7, on the other hand, is tried and tested and works just fine on the numerous computers I use it with today, so as I said, if I could buy an approximate equivalent with newer and more powerful hardware right now, I'd be right in there. Sadly, I'm in the UK, and what you can pick up over here is quite limited compared to what you can get in say the US.

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  3. Enable the 'act now' crowd by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Part of this approach is simply that the offer allows people that are considering new hardware to go ahead and do it, and not wait for W10. In the past, many would hold off as a new OS was on the horizon. So its not necessarily all about saving $$.

  4. "simple trick"? by jbmartin6 · · Score: 2

    I am sick of seeing these 'one simple|weird trick' spams everywhere

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    1. Re:"simple trick"? by Stewie241 · · Score: 3, Informative

      You should see this One Weird Trick for getting rid of weird trick spam.

  5. Alternatively by clickety6 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Alternatively, people have seen that Windows 10 is just as bad as Windows 8 and are hurrying to buy Windows 7 licenses as the only decent version of Windows with a reasonably long remaining support window...

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    1. Re:Alternatively by PRMan · · Score: 5, Informative

      Except that Windows 10 is much better than Windows 8. Although I agree that I slightly like Windows 7 better, but not enough to forgo a free upgrade and more years of bugfix support.

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    2. Re:Alternatively by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      People keep saying this and I'm confused. I've run several of the latest Windows 10 builds and there is not a single aspect I can point to as being better than Windows 8.1. When I want a phone UI on my large desktop monitor I'll be sure to install it though.

  6. Re:Article conclusion is quite a stretch by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wow, this article really pulls a conclusion out of its butt. They look at some vague web statistics, notice that Windows 7 has gone up a tad - likely due to seasonal usage differences or many other things - and then draw a wild conclusion that people are using it to get Windows 10?!

    I can only speak for myself, but I bought a Windows 7 license at least partly because I would be able to upgrade it to a Windows 10 license... and partly because I feared that Microsoft would raise the prices or make them unavailable when Windows 10 came out. So a little from column A, a little from column B. Why are you surprised?

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  7. Err, okay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let's apply Occam's Razor:

    People are buying Windows 7 instead of Windows 8 because the former is cheaper and most people seem to prefer it.

    Sure, they get Windows 10 as well. Woohoo. If it's unusable for the first year, their fallback OS isn't Windows 8.

  8. Re:For me it's the reverse by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Informative

    Many Linux distributions are totally fine booting on a computer with activated secure boot, using a boot loader that was signed by Microsoft.

    Do you have any source for your claim that that will not work anymore? Otherwise I call FUD.

    They were spreading the same crap about Windows 8 machines. I haven't found a machine yet that I can't install Linux onto.

    And there is always Macs - although running a Unix-like OS on a machine that is also Unix-like might be something for the department of redundancy department.

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  9. Or people hate Windows 8 by Culture20 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    People could just as easily be wanting anything "not windows 8" but can't wait to buy a computer until windows 10 is released. That would mean Windows 7 or some other OS. Inertia means Windows 7.

  10. Re:Article conclusion is quite a stretch by pla · · Score: 2

    then draw a wild conclusion that people are using it to get Windows 10?!

    I recently helped a local nonprofit upgrade to Win7 for exactly that reason.

    Yes, I can think of plenty of other reasons for people to pick up a Win7 license (as the most obvious, "I just got a new laptop with Win8, help!"), but the average retail customer will realistically just use whatever the computer comes with, and keep it for the life of the machine.

    If, therefore, we see an uptick in sales of an OS you can't even easily get on a new machine anymore (yes, we geeks can still get it, but Granny, not so much) - That means something.

  11. Win 7 lower priced??? by bev_tech_rob · · Score: 3, Informative

    Because Windows 7 was launched in 2009, a license is more affordable than for Windows 8

    Where can I find it cheaper? Just checked on Newegg for Win7 pricing and it is the SAME as Win 8.1. 6 year old OS .... smh..

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  12. Re:Article conclusion is quite a stretch by j2.718ff · · Score: 2

    Indeed -- if I had to buy some version of Windows today, I'd buy Windows 7. It works, and the UI is pretty reasonable. XP is old and no longer supported. 8 is ugly and I don't want to learn a new UI. I would make the same decision regardless of whether I was planning to upgrade at some future date.

  13. I don't think so - they WANT Win7 by dbIII · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No. I think they are doing what I'm doing and buying Win7 for people's PCs because they want people to have Win7 to give them a desktop instead of a block puzzle with hidden offscreen controls.

  14. Re:For me it's the reverse by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 2

    I haven't yet found one that I can. I've asked several people who claim that there is no problem, how do I get into UEFI setup, to turn it off (or add my own keys)? The thing is, while Microsoft turned around and added a requirement to be able to turn UEFI off (originally, they weren't going to), they also made a requirement that to boot faster, it was not allowed to let people press a key to enter setup.

    Hold the key down before powering on (and keep it held for a second or two after). On a Toshiba the key is F2, and it will definitely get you into the setup. On other brands you could try ESC, Del, F1, F2, F4, F10 or F12. Microsoft seems to think that you can access your BIOS settings with a keystroke. Have a look at their instructions on how to Disable Secure Boot:

    Open the PC BIOS menu. You can often access this menu by pressing a key during the boot-up sequence, such as F1, F2, F12, or Esc.

    Or, from Windows, hold the Shift key while selecting Restart. Go to Troubleshoot > Advanced Options: UEFI Firmware Settings.

    Also, if Windows fails to boot 3 times in a row it will enter the boot menu, from which you can access the BIOS. Try booting, then turning it off three times. I had to do that once when I had a hardware fault once.

    And no, the signed Microsoft Linux that some distros use for setup is not a valid option either.

    Or you could use a distro with a Microsoft signature. Good suggestion. Oh, except for some reason you don't want to run Linux.

  15. Re:Can't "buy" Windows 10? by SScorpio · · Score: 4, Informative

    What you heard is wrong, Microsoft has said time and again that the 7/8 to 10 upgrade is NOT a subscription. After upgrading you will be able to do a full clean install directly to Windows 10 if you want to.

    You are also able to preorder full OEM versions of Windows 10 right now on Newegg.

  16. Just get it for free by ZxCv · · Score: 2

    If you join the Windows Insider program (insider.windows.com) and install the Windows 10 Preview, your preview copy will be updated to the full thing when the GM is released. http://www.redmondpie.com/get-...

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  17. More Than ONE Reason by 4pins · · Score: 2

    I have been reading all the signals from Microsoft (free upgrade, last version, free for life) as them moving to: a subscription model, a hardware tie in model, or both. While I recognize I could be wrong, this has lead me to telling people to cling to their Windows 7 licenses. Get them before they are gone. Just in case!

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  18. Re:For me it's the reverse by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    They were spreading the same crap about Windows 8 machines. I haven't found a machine yet that I can't install Linux onto.

    Surface 2 requires a signed bootloader so that limits your abilities quite a bit, but as for spreading crap there's a bit more info that needs to be considered:

    Microsoft's certification for OEMs have the following requirements:

    Windows RT: Secure Boot enabled.
    Windows 8: Secure Boot optional. If Secure Boot is shipped it MUST be user selectable in the BIOS. If Secure Boot is shipped it must be enabled by default.
    Windows 10: Secure Boot required and must be enabled by default. Wording about Secure Boot being user selectable has been removed!

    That last part is the key. Only a few idiots were spreading FUD about Windows 8 and secure boot. But with Windows 10 the FUD now suddenly leaves you at the mercy of any OEM.