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FBI Wants Pirate Bay Logs For Criminal Investigation Into Copyright Trolls

the simurgh writes: It has been revealed today that In the past few months, two of the Pirate Bay co-founders have been repeatedly questioned by Swedish authorities, acting on behalf of the FBI. The internet now has clear evidence that Prenda is indeed being investigated by the U.S. Government for uploading their own copyrighted content in torrents placed onto The Pirate Bay, for the sole purpose of creating a honeypot trap to sue over pirated downloads.

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  1. of course they do by turkeydance · · Score: 2

    otherwise they will have to beg the NSA.

    1. Re:of course they do by MobSwatter · · Score: 2

      Taps that feed the NSA/CIA are FBI property. So they want the TPB webserver logs? The people wanted the FBI to do something about organized crime back BEFORE it promoted the corruption it has on the scale it is at this point. Subsequently, "There's no such thing as TPB bay logs". -and I doubt that there is any interest in copyright trolls other than FBI shits and giggles and exactly what do they propose to do with these logs if they existed by submission to a 'broken system'?

    2. Re:of course they do by beakerMeep · · Score: 2

      I'm sure they also pinky-swear not to look at any of the other logs for illegal activity.

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  2. Hmmm... by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm thinking those shysters running Prenda are in for a world of pain. Let us hope they hire lawyers just as depraved as they are.

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    1. Re:Hmmm... by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 4, Informative

      Oh. Prenda Law, the qunitessential copyright trolls.

    2. Re:Hmmm... by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm thinking these guys are more worthy of being overrun by the villagers with torches and pitchforks...

    3. Re:Hmmm... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      I'm thinking those shysters running Prenda are in for a world of pain. Let us hope they hire lawyers just as depraved as they are.

      The only way that can happen is if they represent themselves, which would be way beyond awesome to watch. I'd buy tickets.

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  3. So, what does that mean if it is true? by Derekloffin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does that mean those upload are now legal since they actually uploaded them? Or are they still illegal due to some loophole? Or, as I recall, is it that Prenda didn't have the rights in the first place so they actually committed copyright infringement too in uploading them?

    1. Re:So, what does that mean if it is true? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Usually the companies that hires honey pot makers will have some sort of legal agreement allowing them special privilege to distribute. In short, they're given privilege to upload but you are not given privilege to download. That type of thing. Honeypots themselves are legally questionable, which is probably what the FBI is investigating. That gets into legal territory that I'm not well versed in.

    2. Re:So, what does that mean if it is true? by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 2

      Does that mean those upload are now legal since they actually uploaded them? Or are they still illegal due to some loophole? Or, as I recall, is it that Prenda didn't have the rights in the first place so they actually committed copyright infringement too in uploading them?

      It's what Prenda does, they will of collected IP addresses of those downloading the self uploaded files bring charges against them. But it appears the tables have turned.

  4. Suspected this sort of thing by koan · · Score: 2

    Wouldn't be surprised if some of the many clones of Piratebay were put up by someone trying to do the same thing.

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  5. What is this? by future+assassin · · Score: 2

    Did some politicians family member get caught in the honey pot or is this a way to kill the trolls so no precedent is set in court which could stifle media companies from going after uploaders/downloaders.

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  6. A conundrum by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Who do we root for? Prenda, FBI, or PirateBay.

    1. Re:A conundrum by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Funny

      Who do we root for? Prenda, FBI, or PirateBay.

      A strange game, Dr. Falken.
      The only winning move is not to play.
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      How about a nice game of chess?

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    2. Re:A conundrum by HiThereImBob · · Score: 5, Funny

      Who do we root for? Prenda, FBI, or PirateBay.

      I believe the appropriate order would be:

      1) Pirate Bay

      2) FBI

      3) Satan

      4) Prenda

  7. Re:Logs ? by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 3, Informative

    Piratebay keeps track of uploaders. What's stupid about that?

  8. jail time must be had by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Insightful

    if you want to discourage this behavior, it seems that the guys at Prenda Law need some jail time. Failure to do this makes all this merely a business expense.

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  9. Re:it's nonsense by HiThere · · Score: 2

    I don't think Prenda Law holds any copyrights. The interesting question is whether they had permission to publish the things they published.

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  10. Re:Logs ? by meerling · · Score: 2

    Honestly, I doubt anyone that has ever downloaded anything they found on TPB gives a rodents donkey.
    Besides, hosting is expensive, especially when you are the top site in the world for something. I don't expect them to be independently wealthy and paying for all that out of their loose change, do you?

  11. Re:Logs ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    TPB is a huge money making machine making money off advertising. they weren't doing it for a noble purpose

    Yes clearly the TPB founders were rich as hell, living a life of luxury eating pizza and drinking redbull in the basement where they were arrested.

    Perhaps TPB has been commercialized and makes more money now, but I saw statements that they were making a lot of money even before the raid and as the trials have shown there was no money to get from Mr. Warg, Sunde and Neij. That fourth guy that they framed because he was Neijs former boss had some money, but not related to TPB.
    It looks a lot like the claim that they are making a lot of money is BS from the prosecution to be able to motivate the raid by placing it in the legal category related to "commercial scale".

  12. Re:it's nonsense by Andy_R · · Score: 2

    If the FBI 'joins the dots' by connecting Pirate Bay uploader 'sharkmp4' and porn producer Ingenuity13 to Prenda (which seems pretty likely), then Prenda's whole business model looks very different.

    They claim to be acting on behalf of Ingenuity13 to defend Ingenuity13 against copyright infringement started by sharkmp4... which would be legal, if they were not taking a blunderbuss approach to sending out accusations to people who are innocent but would rather pay up than go to court.

    If however, Prenda, Ingenuity13 and sharkmp4 are one entity, they actually set just up a honeypot on their own behalf, and all the downloads were actually legal (because the copyright holder chose to share the files), all the accusations were false (and actionable), every penny of revenue they made was fraud, and they have been lying to more courts than most other corrupt or racketeering organisations even get to see the inside of. This is so illegal on so many levels that they'll pretty much end up not being sentenced by a court to life imprisonment, but simply dying of old age standing in the dock while the list of charges is still being read out.

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  13. This is hilarious! by gnasher719 · · Score: 2

    So someone wants to search Pirate Bay logs. Slashdotters up in arms!
    The search requests come from the FBI! Slashdotters even more up in arms!
    And the FBI is looking for criminal evidence against Prenda! All of Slashdot wants to applaud!

    Surely, if the FBI finds evidence that Prenda uploaded copyrighted files to the Pirate Bay, and then sued others for this, and throws the Prenda guys into jail for that, we can only be happy.