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Scientists Look For Patterns In North Carolina Shark Attacks

HughPickens.com writes: The Washington Post reports that there have been seven recent shark attacks in North Carolina. Scientists are looking for what might be luring the usually shy sharks so close to shore and among the swimmers they usually avoid. It's an unusual number of attacks for a state that recorded 25 attacks between 2005 and 2014. Even with the recent incidents, researchers emphasize that sharks are a very low-level threat to humans, compared with other forms of wildlife. Bees, for example, are much more dangerous. And swimming itself is hazardous even without sharks around.

George Burgess, director of the International Shark Attack File at the University of Florida's Florida Museum of Natural History, speculates that several environmental factors could be pushing sharks to congregate in the Outer Banks. It is a warm year, and the water has a higher level of salinity because of a low-level drought in the area. Also, a common species of forage fish — menhaden — has been abundant this year and might have attracted more sharks to the area. Burgess also says some fishermen put bait in the water near piers, which could lure the predators closer to shore; two of the encounters took place within 100 yards of a pier. "That's a formula for shark attacks," Burgess says of these conditions, taken together. "Now, does that explain seven attacks in three weeks? No, it doesn't."

92 comments

  1. The pattern... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Swim with sharks get eaten, simple.

    1. Re:The pattern... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, the sharks might have been hungry. Not so unusual.

    2. Re:The pattern... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Swim with sharks get eaten, simple.

      What happens when you put a politican and a financier in a pool with a shark ?
      The shark gets eaten.

    3. Re:The pattern... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The shark attack pattern usually matches the setup of teeth in the shark's mouth.
      Unless it attacked with a swift fin chop.

    4. Re:The pattern... by thrillseeker · · Score: 1

      Boat too small.

    5. Re: The pattern... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't be so sure... there aren't many things tricksier than a pool shark.

    6. Re:The pattern... by idbeholda · · Score: 1

      They say once you develop a taste for long pig, it never goes away.

    7. Re: The pattern... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You deserve a Nobel peace prize. Hell, if Obama got one for being black, despite bombing innocents in the middle east and treating the constitution like toilet paper,

      To be fair, he did those last two things *after* getting the award.

    8. Re:The pattern... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Swim with sharks get eaten, simple.

      Food...glorious FOOD!

  2. Mybe it's food by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like... You know... People in the water?

  3. A pattern was found by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Sharks live in the water. When people swim in the water, there is a small chance they may be bitten by sharks.

    A shark bite will prompt media morons and politicians suffering from brainpower deficit disorder to go into hysteria overdrive. This means that a dozen shark attacks will get more attention than 10,000 people dying from inadequate healthcare services per day in North Carolina or hundreds of thousands of people dying in other countries due to natural disasters and wars.

    1. Re:A pattern was found by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Most folks understand that the risk of shark bite is very small. They continue to swim even with the media reports. But when there a multiple shark bites in a relatively small area in a short period of time, and those bites resulted in very serious injuries, it is only natural for a person in that area to hesitate to let their kids in the water. In that case, there helps to be some re-assurance that it is an anomaly or a spike caused by some temporary environmental change, rather than a trend. So it is good that the media is also reporting various attempts to explain the spike.

      Shark bites get media attention because that is what people want to read about. Don't just blame the media.

    2. Re:A pattern was found by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 2

      Shark bites get attention because sharks are rather terrifying to most people (especially if they've seen Jaws). Yes, you can die from bee or wasp stings, but that doesn't induce raw, primal fear like a shark. The thought of plunging to your death in an airline accident is terrifying to most people, even though you're far more likely to die in a car accident. The notion of a child being abducted by a stranger is a parent's worst nightmare, yet it's more likely to happen by a close friend or relative.

      You can't easily quantify, measure, and rationalize human fears. Even logical, otherwise reasonable people can have completely irrational fears. It has nothing to do intelligence... primal fears do a pretty good job of attempting to override intelligent responses. That's why we call it "primal". Yet most people still fly, even if it frightens them to some degree. Most people swim in the ocean, knowing that sharks lurk somewhere beneath the surface. We still send our children off outside of our immediate protection. That doesn't mean those fears went away - just that we need to suppress some of them on a daily basis in order to live our lives.

      Oh, and ten thousand people are not dying per day from inadequate health insurance in North Carolina. Way to toss some "hysteria overdrive" of your own into your argument. And many people are very much concerned and saddened when large disasters strike, like in Nepal, as one recent example. That made worldwide news, in case you missed it.

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  4. The Case of Munchies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    All that toilet flushed cannabis has to end up somewhere.

    1. Re:The Case of Munchies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dry it out and smoke it. Even if the sharks eat it and puke it back up, it'll be OK.

    2. Re: The Case of Munchies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      All of us stoners have seen desperate times and desperate actions but frankly mate you've taken the biscuit

    3. Re: The Case of Munchies by asylumx · · Score: 2

      All of us stoners have seen desperate times and desperate actions but frankly mate you've taken the biscuit

      He did?! I was wondering where that last biscuit went.

    4. Re:The Case of Munchies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      reggae shark

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3ytTKZf344

  5. They only want our love, not our delicious flesh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Radiate to these sharks the unconditional love that they are so desperately craving. Only then will they stop these attacks, and we can live in perfect harmony with them.

  6. blame AGW by turkeydance · · Score: 2

    it's your go-to for funds.

    1. Re:blame AGW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There isn't enough money in North Carolina for that.

      Blame race. That'll bring out billions. Or say it's not smoking enough tobacco.

      Nicotine is a known shark repellent, just ask Batman.

    2. Re:blame AGW by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      I think you may be on to something. It's that damned rebel flag! So far everything one can think of has been blamed on the flag. Must be responsible for these shark attacks, too.

    3. Re: blame AGW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, no, it is banning the flag that has made the sharks angry, and gay marriage, and SCOTUScare too.

      To appease them we must feed all nine justices to the Great Devourer.

    4. Re: blame AGW by dzamie · · Score: 1

      The Great Devourer - a bigger shark.

  7. Bees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now I'm worried about sharks AND bees.

    Damn you. Damn you to hell.

    1. Re: Bees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not scared of common bees or even hornets or yellow jackets, but that Asian giant hornet scares the fuck out of me. And it's sting is deadly, even in those who aren't allergic. It kills thousands in Japan and China each year, and it's aggressive as all hell.

      And the worst part, due to global warming, it has spread to Europe and America...

    2. Re:Bees by nukenerd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I found nothing about bees in TFA that was linked; perhaps the article has been edited because it does sound a bit incredible.

      The claim that sharks are less dangerous than bees, lightning, or whatever, is a fine example of misleading with statistics. Bees and lightning can strike anyone who walks outside (that is everyone but the most extreme basement dwellers), but sharks are only going to attack people who swim, and while they are swimming.

      For a start, I never go into the sea; neither does my wife, son, neighbours, 99.9% of the citizens of the Central African Republic, and I guess most people anywhere. Even of those who do enter the sea, the vast majority must spend a very small percentage of their time in it.

      I would submit therefore that the risk of shark attack while in the sea is very significantly higher than that of a bee attack or lighting strike when walking around on land.

    3. Re:Bees by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 1

      People don't care if shark attacks are less of a risk than bees. Sharks are friggin predators and predator attacks are what rings people's bells. Maybe it is an instinctual thing.

      Sharks, grizzly bears, mountain lions, alligators, wolves.. attacks on humans get big news. Bees are not scary. A swarm of killer bees maybe, cause that seems more 'predatorial'.

      It doesn't mean we run around scared of these things, it just gets our attention. The biggest 'predator' (in quotes because its not a food thing) of humans is humans. And they are all around us!

    4. Re:Bees by sheetsda · · Score: 2

      I agree with your conclusion but not your reasoning. Try this on for size:

      The comparison with bees stings is misleading a BS statistic because they're comparing deaths per entire population rather than deaths per vulnerable population. A farmer in the middle of Oklahoma has a pretty low chance of being eaten by a shark but he has a shot at being a bee fatality. Therefore he's skewing that stat in the shark's favor for someone who is considering whether a beach is more risky than staying home with the bees.

      Vulnerable-to-bee means anyone who is outside anywhere in any of the US's 3.8 million square miles. On a daily basis, this is pretty close to the entire population.

      Vulnerable-to-shark means anyone who is in the water at or near an ocean, which translates to an area of about 88,633 square miles (source). Practically speaking, this is orders of magnitude less than the entire population otherwise the entire interior of the US would be abandoned.

    5. Re:Bees by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 1

      I don't think you understood my point. I certainly was not comparing the risks nor the exposure to them, nor debating the accuracy of stats or how they are presented. That is a different discussion and I don't disagree with your take.

      IN that frame, I think you will find that vulnerability is not the defining factor when it comes to peoples interest in shark attacks. You'll find that surfers and farmers alike are more interested in shark attack stories than fatal bee stings. Mountain hikers and city slickers are more interested in bear attack stories, and so forth. It has little to do with accuracy of risk perception, and more to do with the nature of the event.

    6. Re:Bees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sharks are only going to attack people who swim

      The Sharknado documentary says otherwise.
       

    7. Re:Bees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oklahoma is susceptible to tornado's originating in the Gulf which can transport the sharks on land. Beware the dreaded Sharknado!

    8. Re: Bees by dzamie · · Score: 1

      I think I see the problem. You're saying we need some form of land shark to make the probabilities better, yeah?

    9. Re:Bees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Being I live on the Gulf of Mexico and my family and friends are always going to the beach and getting in the water, but yet has never been attacked by a shark I would have to strongly disagree with your statement.

    10. Re: Bees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTH has that got to do with Global warming? Japan isn't a tropical island chain you know

    11. Re:Bees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there are a series of documentaries that prove you wrong, cf Sharknado 1, 2 & 3

    12. Re: Bees by dave420 · · Score: 1

      You could feign indignance on Slashdot, or you could read for yourself. It's tough, I know.

    13. Re:Bees by Whorhay · · Score: 1

      I agree

      "I would punch every bee in the face!" -Dane Cook

    14. Re:Bees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fact that sharks don't have legs to attack basement dwellers proves that Darwin theories are false.

  8. Shark curiosity by thisisauniqueid · · Score: 3, Informative

    A lot of times a shark will bite something just because it's curious, like how a dog will sniff something and then pick it up in its mouth.

    1. Re:Shark curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, they're interested in why the sharks are curious.

    2. Re:Shark curiosity by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      So, they're interested in why the sharks are curious.

      They heard gay marriage was legal.

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    3. Re:Shark curiosity by Demonoid-Penguin · · Score: 2

      So, they're interested in why the sharks are curious.

      They heard gay marriage was legal.

      Oh right. I suppose you reckon it's just a coincidence that people had been playing Justin Bieber music on the pier in each and every instance of a shark attack. It's not like they can just climb out of the water and politely request people turn that crap off - the poor bastards can't climb and they don't have voice boxes.

      But yeah - let's blame the sharks. And gay marriage.

    4. Re:Shark curiosity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't being a victim of a shark attack a matter of choice? Even so, the odds of getting bit by a shark are probably higher than the odds of you entering a gay marriage. (If you are a normal person).
      I don't mean to offend anyone by saying that they might be abnormal, but lets face it. Getting bit by a shark is pretty high up there on the freak accident scale, so you gotta believe that taking it up the ass, even by accident, is pretty rare. Now, all this says nothing of Justin Beiber, but I suppose it's just as well. No sense inciting people on subjects nobody really cares about.

    5. Re:Shark curiosity by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      A shark does not play with it food, that stupid meme is a stupid meme. Consider the learning exercise, you are born into a sea with no help or guidance, just genetic guidance about likely edible and inedible flavours in the sea you swim in as well as specific trial and error testing method for food sources. So safe trial and error method, be wary, approach target carefully see what it does, hmm, not much. So swing around again and bite, not a too small bite, else target will escape, not a too big because there could be a negative reaction, counter attack or toxic response. The just right bite, which will cripple the target reducing the chance of escape but minimise ingestion of possibly toxic substances or risk of counter attack. Now hang back for a bit and wait to see if minimal blood consumed toxic, takes a few minutes, cant not wait too long else other predators will turn up but need to wait long enough to make sure. Of course that's only the first time that particular target is met, from there on in, easy prey eat at first sight. What makes human difficult initial prey is of course once bitten they seek to immediately get out of the water and they are a vengeful species and do not tolerate eaters of people in any form, including and especially other people. Keep in mind, 'missing, presumed drowned', can and often does mean successful shark attack, we only ever really see the failed shark attacks. A successful shark attack you will hear nothing about except a missing person report.

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    6. Re:Shark curiosity by rtb61 · · Score: 0

      A shark does not play with it food, that stupid meme is a stupid meme. Consider the learning exercise, you are born into a sea with no help or guidance, just genetic guidance about likely edible and inedible flavours in the sea you swim in as well as specific trial and error testing method for food sources. So safe trial and error method, be wary, approach target carefully see what it does, hmm, not much. So swing around again and bite, not a too small bite, else target will escape, not a too big because there could be a negative reaction, counter attack or toxic response. The just right bite, which will cripple the target reducing the chance of escape but minimise ingestion of possibly toxic substances or risk of counter attack. Now hang back for a bit and wait to see if minimal blood consumed toxic, takes a few minutes, cant not wait too long else other predators will turn up but need to wait long enough to make sure. Of course that's only the first time that particular target is met, from there on in, easy prey eat at first sight. What makes human difficult initial prey is of course once bitten they seek to immediately get out of the water and they are a vengeful species and do not tolerate eaters of people in any form. Keep in mind, 'missing, presumed drowned', can and often does mean successful shark attack, we only ever really see the failed shark attacks, shark learning about a new potential prey. A successful shark attack you will hear nothing about except a missing person report.

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  9. There are two parts to the equation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A shark attack needs a shark and a person. Researching what the sharks are doing differently is fine but it will never be the full picture unless you look at what humans are doing differently too.

    It's a hot year as stated; Are more humans swimming than previous years there? Are they swimming at earlier times or later times than usual? I'd bet that even if sharks have abnormal behavior this year that humans do as well.

    1. Re:There are two parts to the equation by Alomex · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, in retrospect maybe those bacon flavored swimming trunks were a bad idea.

    2. Re:There are two parts to the equation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sharks prefer pork jowls to bacon

    3. Re:There are two parts to the equation by Whorhay · · Score: 1

      I'm putting my money on them having recently consumed some Snickers candy bars.

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=2djs-hy4s8k

  10. Its obvious by rossdee · · Score: 4, Funny

    Its shark week

    1. Re:Its obvious by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Its shark week

      In Canada, we have a daily (normally M-F) newsmagazine show called Daily Planet and for Shark Week (which does start today, Sunday, so they did a special episode) they're doing shark themed segments.

      The first segment is interestingly all about this research.

      (Coincidentally I turned on Daily Planet just before visiting /.).

  11. Are the sharks learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's often reported that sharks bite and then let go because we don't taste the same as their usual prey. Is it possible they're learning that we're not so bad after all and are passing the information around? I didn't use to like cheese....

  12. Where is the demand for action? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I find it odd that we have had this many attacks and no one really has taken any action but reaction to a attack. You don't see beeches closing or restrictions on
    how far out to swim or anything. Just business as usual which the key word is "business". This is a direct correlation from Jaws in which attacks happen but the generally argument is how to stop it with out losing the cash cow of tourism. It goes without saying that the generally response from authorities is deal with the attacks but don't scare away the tourists. I think its clear that having just a helicopter flying in areas where beech goers and sharks may interact and issuing warnings would be very helpful. Except it seems most would rather trade a few limbs off people then loose big money in tourism.

  13. The common denominator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All the attacks took place in the water.

  14. Overfishing by StripedCow · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Overfishing. Combined with the fact that sharks have to eat something.

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    1. Re:Overfishing by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Pretty sure you've got it in one here. Like kittens think on nothing but murder all day, sharks think of nothing but eating... at least, that's what they do all day. Swim and eat, swim and eat. It's more surprising when sharks don't eat stuff.

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    2. Re:Overfishing by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

      Man, what did that kitten do to you? Seriously, it's in the past; just let it go. ;^)

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    3. Re:Overfishing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Overfishing. Combined with the fact that sharks have to eat something.

      Shark don't eat people.

      When shark bites a person, it's mostly by accident. People tend to look like "seals" in water, and when people do people things like thrashing around in water, that tells the shark "something is in trouble, get EEEEAAATTT!". Then when sharks bite, they release, don't saw your leg off - they release like when they eat a seal. And they tend to bite in similar spot too, but instead of getting artery, they get bone instead.

      Finally, sharks can't see very well at all. They rely on smell and electric field sensors more than sight.

      For example, South Africa is on white shark migration path. There are lots of people on the beach and in the ocean, and lots of sharks just 100m off shore. Sharks that are large enough to literally eat a person. Yet, very few people even get bit. And that's case and point that sharks don't eat people.

      On the other hand, people are driving sharks toward extinction. 90+% population drops in some shark species. People kill over 2,000,000 shark per year, and it's mostly for the fucktards that want to eat "fin soup".

    4. Re:Overfishing by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Man, what did that kitten do to you? Seriously, it's in the past; just let it go. ;^)

      Kitten Thinks of Nothing but Murder all Day

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    5. Re:Overfishing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, those sharks should really quit overfishing us.

    6. Re:Overfishing by alexhs · · Score: 1
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    7. Re:Overfishing by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Pshaw... I take it you have never eaten that delicious fin soup???

      Heh... Me either. I have eaten shark though. It was a steak in the oven with lemon and it was nommy. I would not eat shark fin soup because we do not eat the whole shark. I will eat a shark.

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  15. 7 attacks in 3 weeks explanation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is simple. The friggin sharks were pining for the friggin lasers pointed at aeroplanes and came ashore to collect them.

  16. Re:the pattern : like ISIS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you missed the ultimate mix : ISIS warriors riding sharks. Toyota are passé.

  17. also, sharks look for patterns in human attack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Sharks usually kill a dozen or so people every year. Meanwhile Humans kill around 100 million sharks per year . Shark scientists are researching the question, "WTF, humans?" Some sharks speculate that it's because humans are assholes.

    1. Re:also, sharks look for patterns in human attack by jthill · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Clearly, sharks have decided we're the problem.

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  18. I blame Obama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks Obummer.

  19. Ooooh! A Thickchewy! by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    George Burgess, director of the International Shark Attack File at the University of Florida's Florida Museum of Natural History, speculates that several environmental factors could be pushing sharks to congregate in the Outer Banks. It is a warm year, and the water has a higher level of salinity because of a low-level drought in the area. Also, a common species of forage fish — menhaden — has been abundant this year and might have attracted more sharks to the area. Burgess also says some fishermen put bait in the water near piers

    "Also, the number of floating chewy fatbags is greater than ever thanks to the 2 for $5 sales at McDonald's this year."

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  20. Shark Fishing from Piers by xantonin · · Score: 2

    I'm surprised no one looked into Shark fishing from piers and shores as a possible cause of the Shark attacks.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/shark...

    There are many other articles. It makes sense to me. If you lure sharks closer to the shore by throwing dead meat in the ocean then yeah they are probably going to attack swimmers. This is why some districts ban this. It clearly locates their feeding area (or their perception of it) closer to where legs are dangling in the ocean.

    Why do people make things complicated?

  21. Quoted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    "As a commercial fisherman of 38 years, a shark fisherman virtually from it's inception in the mid eighties, and HMS a.p. member and a IAC technical advisor on sharks, if you actually want the scoop on the health of the shark populations in this country please don't expect to hear it from the apologist such as George Burgesses (shark attack file), Bob Hueter's (Mote Marine lab) or even the NMFS since the truth is in short supply. If you believe their line it is because of more people are in the water, or more bait fish, or hotter water, or even more turtles in the water (a favorite food of sharks) yet fishermen are being shut down because others say there are less. The inconvenient truth to the increased shark interactions is that it is simply all about the increase in sharks... Don't believe me? Check out the agencies Coastal Shark Survey: http://na.nefsc.noaa.gov/shark....
    If you are not interested in googling it i will quote a few paragraphs . "
    "The first systematic survey of Atlantic sharks , conducted by the Apex Predator Program in the summer of 1986 (or about the time the shark fishery got it's start). "We caught and tagged more sharks in the 2012 survey than at any previous survey said Natanson, who has been on all but one of the surveys. The previous high was in 2009 when we caught 1676 sharks and tagged 1352. In addition to the numerous sandbar sharks, (the main focus of the former shark fishery), we caught more Dusky (the main reason the shark fishery has essentially been eliminated) tiger and black tip than in any prior survey.
    As a followup to the two most recent surveys, i happened to be offshore fishing recently when Scotty on the Eagle Eye 2 was on his way by conducting the 2015 survey. Unfortunately even thought the numbers are not yet posted, in acquainting myself with the captain over the radio and making him aware of my interest in the numbers he was seeing, he confided that this survey was going to blow the numbers of the previous two away......in other words simply.....more than EVER.
    Finally If you decide that after watching "shark week" they are as lovable as Bambi or Flipper, and believe that you are more likely to be struck by lightening this week then dive in. As not only a fisherman that is no longer allowed to target sharks and hasn't been since 2002, as a surfer that is nervous any time the swell comes up and also a oceanfront motel owner that is concerned as a businessman......you simply be the judge...."

  22. Factory ships by MrKaos · · Score: 1, Interesting
    All you have to do is look at the Factory ships and ask yourself just how much fish is left for the sharks to eat. Do we really need a scientific study to tell us that if there is no food for the sharks to eat they will try to survive on whatever they can find in the water.

    Meanwhile the factory ship goes on destroying more in its by-catch leaving a corridor of nothing behind. Of course the solution will be to kill the remaining sharks and let the fucktory ships go about their business.

    We are clearly a race navel gazing it's way to extinction.

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  23. Re:They only want our love, not our delicious fles by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 1

    Wow. Someone's off his conservative meds again. Guy, take the green pill and chill out. You're ruining a perfectly good shark wall.

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  24. Captain Quint Said it Best: by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 1

    You go in the water. Shark's in the water. Our shark.

    Farewell and adieu to you, fair Spanish ladies. Farewell and adieu, you ladies of Spain. For we've received orders for to sail back to Boston. And so nevermore shall we see you again.

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  25. Yes, the absolute risk is low, but... by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 1

    Most articles I've read about this point out that the risk to any given swimmer is still extremely low. We all know that humans are bad at weighting risks from very low-probability but high-horror events.

    By the same token, though, the risk to any given golfer out on a course during a thunderstorm is pretty low -- but nearly everybody agrees that going out on a large, open expanse and holding a metal stick over your head during a thunderstorm is kind of stupid.

    I can't say that I blame people for deciding to stay out of the water.

  26. bs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "And swimming itself is hazardous even without sharks around."
    what an awful lof of bs ona sunday afternoon.

  27. Sharks are for cows. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are all cows. Cows say moo. MOOOOOOOOOOO! MOOOOOOOOO! Mooooo cows MOOOOOOO! Moooo say the cows. YOU COWS!!

  28. The shark app? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Might have something to do with the shark app that lets swimmers know where the sharks are. "Hey, there was a shark sighting! Let's go swimming!"

  29. They are all coming in to see the 40th anniversary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ....of Jaws! Playing in theaters near you! Seriously. I just went to see it myself.

  30. Sharknado 3 ..... by King_TJ · · Score: 1

    The movie takes place in the Northeastern U.S. but nobody heeded the warnings.

  31. Easy answer by sjames · · Score: 1

    Find the jackass playing the cello on the beach and arrest him.

  32. Obvious by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    Sharks eat mammals with lots of blubber and North Carolinians are as tasty as a big seal.

  33. Seven Shades of Stupid by Demonoid-Penguin · · Score: 1

    Dear Coward

    Isn't being a victim of a shark attack a matter of choice? Even so, the odds of getting bit by a shark are probably higher than the odds of you entering a gay marriage. (If you are a normal person). I don't mean to offend anyone by saying that they might be abnormal, but lets face it. Getting bit by a shark is pretty high up there on the freak accident scale, so you gotta believe that taking it up the ass, even by accident, is pretty rare. Now, all this says nothing of Justin Beiber, but I suppose it's just as well. No sense inciting people on subjects nobody really cares about.

    Is that an effort at stupid humour - or are you just being effortlessly stupid? It reads like clumsy satire but something tells me it's not - it's just the way you "think".

  34. What I post's nonsense dave420? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I just reply to you when I see you spamming Slashdot with your nonsense"- by dave420 (699308) on Friday June 19, 2015 @10:31AM (#49945047)

    Why'd you agree w/ my points on hosts then? Quoting you:

    "I'm not denying all those things" - by dave420 (699308) on Wednesday September 17, 2014 @11:39AM (#47927435) FROM -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    Of course not: It's impossible to dispute HOSTS FILES superiority to other methods!

    Since my points in favor of hosts SINGLE FILE native kernelmode faster part show hosts doing more w/ less vs. so-called 'competitors' many part messagepassing + cpu/ram use overheads laden slower usermode FAR MORE COMPLEX 'solutions' doing less than hosts do for more security, speed, reliability, + anonymity!

    ---

    * QUESTION:

    DO YOU WORK FOR AN ADVERTISING FIRM, or ARE YOU A WEBMASTER/WEBCODER http://slashdot.org/comments.p... , or a MALWARE MAKER, or ARE YOU AFFILIATED WITH 1 OF MY COMPETITORS?

    Answer it!

    As per your usual you'll avoid every question, or lie & You've been EXPOSED in your "motives" in the last link just above, lol!

    ---

    "I'm simply pointing out that it takes an AdBlocker to block your spamming"- by dave420 (699308) on Friday June 19, 2015 @10:31AM (#49945047)

    I bother you? Then WHY DON'T YOU DO IT & use 'em? Answer that!

    (You stalk/harass me instead!)

    OBVIOUSLY you don't & you're a "ne'er-do-well" troll & you have "other motivations" (the QUESTION above you'll AVOID TO NO END, "Gosh, I wonder WHY?" (not!)):

    ---

    I make creating a superior more efficient solution EASIER (That's more than a mere trolling stalking harassing "ne'er-do-well" like yourself could *EVER* manage).

    APK

    P.S.=> See Dave420 the "pot puffing clown" SQUIRM - evasions galore will ensue (as well as effete downmods via sockpuppets to *try* vainly "hide it" -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )... apk

    1. Re:What I post's nonsense dave420? by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Easy, APK. Ever notice how no one else engages in such behaviour?

    2. Re:What I post's nonsense dave420? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why don't you answer his questions? We know you're a webmaster that doesn't like adblockers (since you run a website and make money from ads). Do you work for one of his competitors or are you affliated with them?

      You mentioned using adblockers. Do it. Use adblockers so you can't be bothered by his posts as you aren't forced to read them or comment on them then as you stated. Must be those adblockers don't work for that right? They're paid off not to work on google, microsoft, and amazon ads already so that makes sense.

      (What I found odd is that you agree his points on hosts are correct so what's your problem?).

  35. Bees? by smoore · · Score: 1

    The word bees isn't even in the article linked.

    --
    Shawn Moore http://www.teuse.net
  36. Correlation with Space Weather - Ground Currents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The research cited a particularly low incidence of attacks in 2009. 2009 was unusual in that it was the peak of a solar minimum that was longer and deeper than normal.

    The higher rate of attacks recently correlates with the generally more active space weather of solar maximum, not just flares but filament eruptions and high-speed streams (associated with coronal holes). Although the sunspot counts of the latest maximum have generally been below average, there has been no decrease in CME or high-speed wind stream activity. Most researchers of various Earth-system events on don't think to consider a possible influence from space weather altered conditions.

    Manufacturers of electro-fishing equipment know that swimming towards the positive electrode occurs. Other Earth currents are possible beyond those associated with geomagnetic storms. Solar wind, essentially Van Allen Belt plasma, can contribute to atmospheric electricity associated with sprites, thunderstorms, and other unstable enhanced weather. Even without lightning, there can be significant total discharge current to the ground in atmospheric leakage currents (affecting vertical wind shear) and from the sum of charges carried on many raindrops. The region of Florida has had frequent thunderstorm type conditions for some time now. The eastern side of the U.S. seems to be more greatly affected by space weather due to the combination of the proximity to the magnetic north pole and the effects of the South Atlantic Magnetic Anomaly. (The later affects charge distribution in the lower Van Allen Belt)

    While there has been plenty of data that easily a space weather connection with things like fish kill events (space-weather energized electrolysis driven changes causing things such as swim-bladder gassing, oxygen depletion through changes in NOx states, shifts in trace minerals/gases affecting algae growth etc), I have not seen enough shark sighting/attack data to positively correlate it with space weather. But everything about the events fits, so a detailed analysis using a credible large data set would certainly be worthwhile. I have associated space weather with stranding events. Those are very similar to shark events since they involve an increased presence of other large sea creatures in places where they usually wouldn't be seen.

    Those in areas with frequent fish kill events are encouraged to not only monitor space weather, geomagnetic and atmospheric data, but do things like local measurements of ground currents.
    Something as simple as a hall effect sensor next to the safety-earth ground line for a cable tv/internet feed might show local disturbances. Most science done at the sites of fish-kill events is after the fact, so only things like algae or signs of oxygen depletion remain. It's not uncommon to have sites that experienced a fish kill after rainfall. Pollution in runoff or drops in salinity of salt water are common suspects in that case, but bear in mind that thunderstorm-associated rain is itself is very likely a sign of solar wind particle/charge effects.

    Beyond the normal thermal effects driving some water currents, electrical currents in water have associated magnetic fields which may drive some water motion when interacting with Earth's static magnetic field. The possibility that space weather effects might be causing some upwelling or overturn in waters should also be considered. A great many types of research, even NOx releases from soils, need the scope widened to account for the influence of space weather.

    I encourage both historical research with an eye to including additional data, and enhanced local monitoring to show what's associated with various new events as they unfold. Also, various lab experiments can be conducted to study the effects of currents under controlled conditions.

    Electrolysis in fresh water can release hydrogen and oxygen. I'm curious what happens to the chlorine when salt is present. Perhaps some of the reef damage and NOx related gas releases are more transient i

  37. The sharks like the taste of stupid people. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    North Carolina is consistently in the bottom of the national public school test scores.

    Believe me, there is a reason for this and the reason is that North Carolina contains a lot
    of stupid people and those people don't tend to have smart children.

    If you ask me, the sharks are cleaning the gene pool, and if I could I'd buy those sharks a round of drinks.