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Microsoft To Cut 7,800 More Jobs, Take $7.6 Billion Writedown On Nokia

jones_supa writes: Microsoft is about to announce another round of layoffs. A company press release confirms the plan, saying that it will target up to 7,800 employees and will be aimed mostly at the hardware division. The hardware division includes the lion's share of former Nokia employees, which became part of Microsoft last year. In an e-mail to employees, chief executive officer Satya Nadella reiterated the company's commitment to its phone business, though he also said that some refocusing was necessary and that Microsoft's phone business would reflect the overall Windows strategy: "We are moving from a strategy to grow a standalone phone business to a strategy to grow and create a vibrant Windows ecosystem that includes our first-party device family," the e-mail reads. "As a result, the company will take an impairment charge of approximately $7.6 billion related to assets associated with the acquisition of the Nokia Devices and Services business in addition to a restructuring charge of approximately $750 million to $850 million."

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  1. Wait a minute... by mrspoonsi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Didn't MS buy Nokia for $7B, and they write off $7.6B, so they are pretty much writing off the whole Nokia as worthless.

    1. Re:Wait a minute... by faway · · Score: 5, Funny

      truth be told, many consumers did that years ago. as usual it has taken Microsoft forever to catch up with consumers.

    2. Re:Wait a minute... by McGruber · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

      Buh-bye, Nokia.

    3. Re: Wait a minute... by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      lets also mention the test equipment vendors that have almost all been bought by the evil danaher: tektronix, fluke and keithley being the big 3 that come to mind. why can't companies stay around, these days? oh, right, if they are honest and provide a product that lasts, that's 'no good' for the current disposable economy. sigh.

      audio companies, include, too; harmon kardon and nakamichi come to mind as they are now shells. shit, even b&w (used to be high end speakers) now make fashion headphones for the apple crowd. SQ does not matter, only looks, for that audience.

      everyone is engaged in a race to the bottom. pretty depressing, actually.

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  2. Wow ... by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, basically Microsoft successfully killed the actual Nokia, successfully transferred the IP to themselves, have completely screwed the pooch in terms of being able to manage an acquisition which never made any sense ... and now they've written off the purchase.

    I'm sorry, but if you're taking over $7 billion in writedowns, maybe the decision to but it in the first place was stupid and misguided?

    This just sounds like Microsoft pissed away billions trying to prop up their failing phone, and are now leaving the rotting carcass of Nokia in their wake.

    Is this anything but mismanagement and hubris? Because it sounds like other than fucking up Nokia it hasn't achieved a damned thing.

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    1. Re:Wow ... by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So, basically Microsoft successfully killed the actual Nokia, successfully transferred the IP to themselves, have completely screwed the pooch in terms of being able to manage an acquisition which never made any sense ... and now they've written off the purchase.

      So, basically Microsoft got access to all of Nokia's IP and a big portion of their customer base for $7b in cash they didn't know what to do with, and destroyed a competitor in the process?

      Is this anything but mismanagement and hubris?

      Sounds like a bargain to me.

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    2. Re:Wow ... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Interesting

      ... an acquisition which never made any sense

      Apple makes an iPhone for about $200, and sells it for about $600, for a gross profit of about $400 per phone.

      Google makes no money directly from Android software, and the Android handset makers make a tiny fraction of what Apple makes.

      There are HUGE advantages to controlling the entire HW/SW platform. Just because Microsoft screwed it up, doesn't mean it wasn't a good idea. The concept made a lot of sense, but the execution was mismanaged.

    3. Re:Wow ... by fwarren · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Back in 2011 when Elop wrote the burning memo the handwriting was on the wall. Nokia was going to have trouble in the smart phone market. There is no way of knowing if their Linux offering that Elop canned to go with WinMo would have worked out for them. What was obvious even back then, was that moving to WinMo was a mistake. MS had gone from 12% of the smart phone market to under 4% by that point. No one was clamoring for new Windows 7.5 phone. Every Windows 6 phone user I knew had left for Apple or Google by that point in time, fed up random reboots on their phone that took 2 minutes to complete.

      It did not help that at that point most of his wealth was invested in Microsoft stock and only a small amount in Nokia stock. It was in his best interest to try and save the Widnows phone. Elop had drank to much kool-aid and was convinced that anything Microsoft was the way to go and coupled with that financial interest he took Nokia in the wrong direction.

      The only thing dumber than Elop tanking Nokia was Microsoft purchasing Nokia.

      I take that back. Microsoft purchasing Skype was just as dumb. After spending over 9 billion on Skype and then having to upgrade the hardware infrastructure Skype runs on. I suspect Microsoft has another 10 billion or so it will need to write off.

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    4. Re:Wow ... by danbob999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Apple is the only company successful with this business model. Blackberry failed, Nokia failed (with symbian, before Microsoft), Samsung failed (Bada), Palm failed. That Microsoft failed isn't surprising at all.

    5. Re:Wow ... by spire3661 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I will say that the build quality of the Surface line is very good. MS has learned to make decent hardware. Its pricey, but you get what you pay for.

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    6. Re:Wow ... by tlhIngan · · Score: 5, Informative

      So, basically Microsoft successfully killed the actual Nokia, successfully transferred the IP to themselves, have completely screwed the pooch in terms of being able to manage an acquisition which never made any sense ... and now they've written off the purchase.

      Nokia is still around, they've just reverted back to their core business - selling telephony equipment.

      Nokia's well known for their handsets, but handset business is awful, due to its consumer nature. It's low profit, mass production, with lots of time wasted on stuff like warranty and support.

      Microsoft bought that business.

      Nokia's core business of selling equipment used to run cell networks is still around - Microsoft didn't buy that, and the core is honestly where the money's at. Think whenever a carrier goes and sets up a new cell tower all the equipment they need to buy - controllers, baseband processors, amplifiers, exciters, receivers, antennas, etc. all costing 6 figures minimum. And one set for the bands in question, another set for 2G, 3G and 4G, ... and you're talking millions of dollars of hardware, the BOM cost of which is probably well under $100k.

      And with 5G on the horizon, that's more opportunity.

      The real Nokia is still around, and they've shed the crappy parts of their business.

  3. Also gone is Elop by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apparently Elop is also out as part of the layoffs. Most likely he'll get a big payout for his part.

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  4. In other news by ranton · · Score: 4, Funny

    In other news, Microsoft is hiring 7800 H1B workers to head up their new mobile division.

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  5. Re:Die, white whale, die by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    indeed there are many companies that resemble Microsoft, for instance Starbucks is the Microsoft of coffee and equally evil.

    Yeah, like that time that Starbucks paid less than the average wage? Woops, they pay more. Or like that time that Starbucks put the competition out of business by dumping and then raised their prices, destroying jobs in the process? No, they put the competition out of business by being consistent, and they are totally willing to open a starbucks across the street from a starbucks so there's plenty of jobs. Wait, like that time they underpaid their suppliers? No, they pay more than fair trade amounts, although those amounts are arguably too low at least they've over the baseline. So in what way is Starbucks like Microsoft? Because they produce a product that more people want to use than the stuff you like?

    FWIW I think starfucks coffee is ass and if I wanted a cup of sugar I'd just ask for it, but seriously, how is Starbucks like Microsoft? The occasional bullshit trademark lawsuit? That's lame, but nowhere near that territory.

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  6. Microsoft tried the wrong business model by sjbe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This isn't Apple envy. They didn't say they want to focus on one offering. They said they want a vibrant ecosystem that includes their first-party devices.

    Distinction without a difference really.

    They've learned that when you're making the bulk of your OS's phones yourselves, there's little incentive for competitors to license your software.

    Microsoft's problem is that their business model has been to SELL software. That worked fine in the PC market place because the hardware and the software were abstracted from each other AND they managed to become a de-facto standard before something like linux came along. Microsoft's problem in mobile is that they tried to replicate that business model (selling software to third party hardware makers) while Google was almost literally giving away Android to all of Microsoft's potential customers. Google makes their money from ads, not software sales so Google effectively evaporated any profit margin for Microsoft or anyone else who wasn't vertically integrated in mobile. The moment Nokia dumped their own platform for Windows they were effectively dead because nobody else wanted to use Microsoft's software and Nokia wasn't going to be able to drive it into the mobile marketplace by themselves.

    So instead what Microsoft is belatedly realizing is that they should have followed Apple's model and vertically integrated for mobile. Apple is a software company fundamentally. What makes a mac different from a PC is OS X. What makes an iPhone different from an Android phone is iOS. The hardware is basically the same underneath. So Apple sells you their software but won't sell it without a fairly nice device to go along with it. However an important feature in this is that Apple has design chops and retail experience in their DNA. Microsoft doesn't. So Microsoft has to replicate what Apple is doing without the design culture that makes Apple successful at doing it.

    Basically it's fortunate for Microsoft that they have a huge amount of cash in the bank because I think they are going to burn through a lot of it trying to transform the company into something they currently are not. They have enough cash that I'm not about to declare them dead but Microsoft doesn't have an easy road ahead of them I think.

  7. Re:Die, white whale, die by gtall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Stalin was evil, Mao was evil, Lil'Kimmy Jong Un is evil. How many people has MS, Google, and Starbucks killed?

  8. Re:Look on the bright side by arth1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I presume that those on a H1B visa will be let go first, of course?