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CSTA: Google Surveying Educators On Unconscious Biases of Students, Parents

theodp writes: According to a Computer Science Teachers Association tweet, Google is reportedly asking educators to assess the unconscious bias of students and their parents for the search giant. "We are in the early stages of learning how unconscious bias plays out in schools, and who would benefit most from bias busting materials," begins the linked-to 5-page Google Form, which sports a ub-edu@google.com email address, but lists no contact name. "This survey should take 15 minutes to complete, and your responses are confidential, meaning that your feedback will not be attributed to you and the data will only be used in aggregate form." The form asks educators to "list the names of organizations, tools, and resources that you have used to combat unconscious bias," which is defined as "the attitudes or stereotypes that affect our understanding, actions, and decisions in an unconscious manner." A sample question: "Who do you think would benefit most from unconscious bias training at your school (or program)? Rank the following people in order (1=would most benefit to 5=would benefit least) training: Student, Parent (or guardian), Teacher (or educator), Guidance counselor, Principal." Google deflected criticism for its lack of women techies in the past by blaming parents' unconscious biases for not steering their girls to study computer science, suggesting an intervention was needed. "Outreach programs," advised Google, "should include a parent education component, so that parents learn how to actively encourage their daughters."

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  1. Please Stop. Enough. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is nothing in western society stopping women from pursuing technical careers except women themselves. They are given every possible advantage.

  2. Re:Yeah, blame the parents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This right here.
    Rather than concluding that the parents are screwing up, we should conclude that girls and boys are different and there is nothing wrong with an unequal number of men and women in particular jobs.

  3. Parents' superpower by Jesrad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google deflected criticism for its lack of women techies in the past by blaming parents' unconscious biases for not steering their girls to study computer science, suggesting an intervention was needed. "Outreach programs," advised Google, "should include a parent education component, so that parents learn how to actively encourage their daughters."

    Ah, parents. The supposedly superpowerful entities that can somehow control their children's career path over decades without even trying, yet keep failing to stop them from having underage sex or trying drugs no matter how hard they actively attempt to.

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  4. Re:Please Stop. Enough. by smittyoneeach · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Apparently you're oblivious to the political power that can be generated via a simple accusation.

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  5. Cultural Marxists gonna cultural Marxist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Boys are falling behind in education but there are still a few male bastions that have not been conquered yet. Keep fighting the good fight progressives!

  6. Re:Yeah, blame the parents by Runaway1956 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What is obvious to a discerning person, is that Google is engaged in a social engineering campaign, not terribly dissimilar to the campaign waged by Kellogs in the late 1800's and early 1900's. http://mentalfloss.com/article...

    You say, ". . . assumption that their differences are significant to influence . . ." And, I say that you are being judgemental and subjective. When 80% of a group of people tell you that they are not interested in something, THAT IS SIGNIFICANT! It's alright for you, and Google, to try to understand WHY that group of people are uninterested in $activity. It is NOT acceptable for you and Google (or Kelogg's) to try to force changes in those people.

    Unproven assumption? How about empirical data?

    Historically, males have been the risk takers, and females have by choice taken fewer risks. Guys do outrageous shit, and girls seldom do anything terribly outrageous. That's the way it is.

    I say, "Fuck off, Google!"

    All of that said - if there are any of you who overtly or covertly DISCOURAGE girls/women from working in STEM careers, you can fuck off right along with Google and company. Freedom. Freedom is all about doing whatever the hell you WANT TO DO!

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  7. Re:Yeah, blame the parents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Instead, I have concluded that the only reason this is a problem for people is because it's a desk job with more men than women.
    No one is researching the bias leading to medical schools with 90% women.
    No one is researching the bias leading to 99% male construction workers, or garbage men.
    That's the reason for my disdain for these people.
    They don't care about equality. They care about being seen to care about equality.

  8. Why does this sound like Orwell or CP reeducation? by swb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Citizen, we are here to free you from your unconscious biases so that you may more thoroughly accept the wisdom of the party and refine your thoughts and actions for the glory of the party and the state.

  9. Re:Yeah, blame the parents by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    When 80% of a group of people tell you that they are not interested in something, THAT IS SIGNIFICANT!

    Maybe they're not interested in the current workforce dominated by males with sexist attitudes and L337 approaches?

    When engineering projects are made that catter to the specific differences and interests of females (such as toy construction sets that are less centered on their pure mechanical structure and more on their usage and applications,) the approval rate of girls towards is shown to increase. (The pink color seems to help in this case, BTW). This may very well a chicken-and-egg problem: women are not interested in science and tech because nowadays there's nothing interesting in it for them.

    Historically, males have been the risk takers, and females have by choice taken fewer risks. Guys do outrageous shit, and girls seldom do anything terribly outrageous. That's the way it is.

    If your "empirical evidence" is mindless repeating of gender stereotypes, you lose an internet. Where's the connection that STEM people must be "risk-takers" (or that women don't do outrageous things, for that matter)?

  10. Stop. Posting. This. Shit. by Karmashock · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Everyone is clearly sick to fucking death of his SJW vomit. Where ever you're getting this shit... go somewhere else. Maybe you'll find something less idiotic to post on the board.

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  11. Re:Yeah, blame the parents by Runaway1956 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You point to some pink toys, as evidence that boys and girls are being treated differently. Now, look at those pink toys, and tell me more about them. WHY do pink toys increase a girl's interest? Come on, dig deep.

    Mindless repeating of stereotypes. You are obviously superior, in that you mindlessly repeat liberal talking points.

    I say again, if the girls WANT to work in STEM, get the hell out of their way. If they DO NOT WANT to work in STEM, STFU and let them do what they want to do.

    Stop PUSHING the girls into occupations that they may or may not want. Just STFU and sit down, and let the girls be whatever they want to be.

    The arrogant cocksucker who occupies the White House told women that he doesn't WANT them to be housewives. WTF does anyone care what he WANTS? Rhetorical question - I know exactly who wants the wives out of the homes, and I know why. Dragging Mommy out of the house opens the door for baby sitters, social workers, school administrators, and more to get involved in the child's life. So, Mommy is down the road, slaving away to earn some money (part of which the government takes away from her) to PAY for all of the baby sitting, etc ad nauseum.

    Did I mention social engineering in my post above? Yes, I did. Social Justice warriors don't like the nuclear family, they don't even like an extended family. So, they are working to destroy the family. Social engineering. Look around you. It's blatantly obvious.

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  12. Females wants alpha males by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What females wants is alpha males, both they and their parents are trained for this. Parents early insist they seek careers where they can find men with more power (political, law), and by repeat the females end up believing it too. And it's pretty hard to find alpha males in computer science courses (we care about more important things than animal instincts of domination and territory), so consequently you will see fewer females in such courses.

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  13. Re:Please Stop. Enough. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Say it LOUD !
    Men and women are different and like doing different things, and the feminazi thought police cannot change that.

  14. Haven't you guys see the *TRUE* picture yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Folks, it is time you guys see beyond what is shown on the screen

    This "female have been discouraged from STEM" thing is just a decoy

    The power that be is using it to push for something MUCH MORE HEINOUS - total mind control

    First of all I need to stress that I am not good in explaining thing, but please do allow me to try ...
     
    The 'unconscious bias' thing is something very worrisome --- it is a tool for TPTB to average out all the thought pattern of the masses

    You see, first they came up with 'hate speech', then 'hate thoughts' accusing people of 'hate' --- that was their first attempt to make people feel 'guilty' of the way they think

    Then they came up with this 'unconscious bias' thing --- and may I ask all of you, do you know what exactly is meant by 'unconscious bias'??

    Now they want to control not only what we think, but also, what we may unconsciously think !!

    What TPTB is doing is much more heinous than that dreadful world as depicted by '1984' --- at least in that book the Big Brother had no control over the sub-conscious of the masses --- TPTB in the real world of 2015, at least in the West, has gone way beyond what the Big Brother of '1984' could ever dream of

    We must stop looking at what is shown on the screen - we must dig deeper and understand what TPTB is trying to do

    If we fail, the consequence is gonna be very terrible - all future generations will not only act, but THINK alike, even within their sub-conscious level!