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How the Biggest, Most Expensive Oil Spill In History Changed Almost Nothing

merbs writes: Tthe biggest oil spill in US history, despite incurring the largest environmental fine on the books—$18.7 billion, handed down this month—has done almost nothing to change the nation's relationship to oil. Five years after the spill, and, by BP's count, $54 billion in projected total expenses, there have been no serious legislative efforts to improve the oversight or regulation of the United States' still-expanding offshore oil operations. Public opinion of deepwater drilling barely budged during the ordeal; today, a majority of Americans favor doing even more of it.

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  1. Country run by oil barons does nothing!!! by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Country run by oil barons does nothing when there's an oil problem!?!

    Film at 11.

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    1. Re:Country run by oil barons does nothing!!! by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Informative

      PS: Fracking is being given a totally free pass too!

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    2. Re:Country run by oil barons does nothing!!! by tiberus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And investment in [,,,] clean-nuclear [...]

      Clean nuclear, doesn't nuclear fuel have a pesky rather long term disposal issue? Granted I'd never heard of using Thorium as a fuel before but, I don't get a warm fuzzy about the use of 'er' in cleaner and safer.

    3. Re:Country run by oil barons does nothing!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Since oil is environmentally harmful, removing it from the environment is exactly what we should do. So, I think we should continue to drill for oil, extract it from the environment, and then of course use it up so there is no risk of it re-entering the environment.

      Plus, I like cheap power.

    4. Re:Country run by oil barons does nothing!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Maybe he should have said almost clean. Generation IV nuclear reactors don't solve the waste problem but they dig into. They produce much less waste and can use waste from older reactors. The waste that is produced has a greatly reduced half-life as compared to current reactor waste. The big bonus is they have a really hard time melting down since they don't need a continuous water supply to cool. It's what we should have been investing in until renewables are advanced enough to take over.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_IV_reactor

    5. Re:Country run by oil barons does nothing!!! by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's what we should have been investing in until renewables are advanced enough to take over.

      But hey, we got the F35 instead. Winner!

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    6. Re:Country run by oil barons does nothing!!! by whathappenedtomonday · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Just bury the waste. Well, if it is that easy, why does no country in the world have a permanent solution for their waste? If just burying it is good enough, why does nobody do it? Hint: it's hard to do it safely, given the half life periods involved, since we're talking about 10,000 to 1,000,000 years, and I'd rather not touch those 500 years you mention, because you pulled that number out of a smelly place. Also, the article is talking about the problems arising from handling crude oil. Looks like we can't even handle that safely enough. What makes you think we can handle nuclear waste safely for long periods of time? Just do x and y won't be a problem. I just love that approach. We might discuss nuclear if it weren't for such utter "rational" BS.

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  2. It changed something all right by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Nobody wants to eat anything that comes out of the gulf

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  3. Sure, I favor doing more of it by bondsbw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Public opinion of deepwater drilling barely budged during the ordeal; today, a majority of Americans favor doing even more of it.

    In light of all the rockets that have exploded and astronauts killed over the years, I favor doing even more space exploration.

    Just because something is unsafe, doesn't mean I want to stop doing it. Sometimes it's worth doing so long as it can be done more safely.

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  4. Re:Business as usual under the US Gov't by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 4, Informative

    We've had plenty of significant events happen in the past couple decades. One and only one - 9/11 - changed how the government does anything.

    Yeah, and it only changed how the government did anything by making things worse. Now we're subjected to illegal searches, detainment, etc. by an incompetent bureaucracy that has stopped exactly 0 terrorist plots and misses over 95% of banned items in its screenings. Hopefully these aren't the kinds of changes you'd like to see with the oil industry as well.

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  5. Why change? by Pollux · · Score: 3

    The American lifestyle is no different. We need oil. We drive vehicles that burn gas. We need asphalt to pave our roads. We fly in airplanes that burn jet fuel. We depend on plastics to make everything that exists in our lives. In order to buy everything, we need it shipped from half-way around the world in freighters that burn diesel and in trains to get it across the United States. Practically everything that makes our modern lives modern depends on petrochemicals. If you want a more thorough list, go here.

    We won't give up on oil until we run out.

  6. Re:Wait for the government suckers. by ganjadude · · Score: 3, Insightful

    as opposed to pro government people who see something and say see??? of only we had more power we could have fixed it!!! (ignoring the horrible track record our government has at making things betteR)

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  7. it's not just the oil barons by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Interesting

    After 20 years of Karl Rove and Fox News a sizable number of Americans are opposed to any regulation. Rand Paul (or maybe his dad) argued that instead of govt regs you let the folks who own the contaminated land Sue for damages. If it's international waters I guess you'd have to prove your land was contaminated...

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  8. The article is deeply flawed. by whit3 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The Deepwater Horizon accident caused loss of life, loss of expensive equipment, bad publicity, fines, and payment of significant damages. BP corporate interests were heavily impacted, and it's hard to imagine that any US regulatory change would focus more attention on safety and efficiency in future drilling.

    Hey, the US doesn't OWN all of 'offshore', or even Gulf of Mexico, you know! If BP wanted to do something silly again, they could dodge any and all regulation, by simple selection of a foreign drilling site.

    But, BP won't do something silly again. Not for a long time. BP will, for purely profit-seeking reasons, manage better in future. BP employees, for their own personal safety, will be more inclined to caution and prudence.

    The best thing the US government can do, is to insist on full disclosure of any and all safety-related information, that could be of use in future planning (including regulation) by any and all persons, anywhere in the world, The courts (not regulators, not legislators) did perform that function, I hope adequately. BP cooperated, responsibly (IMHO).

    The author of the article clearly wants restrictions on 'them', as a kind of punishment for a criime, even if it means some kind of ex-post-facto criminalization. He's missing the productive possibility of doing things better, because he wants to see someone's time wasted in a public pillory.