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Windows 10 Will Have Screen Recording Tool

Mark Wilson writes: Windows 10 has not even been released yet, but that's a perfect reason to start unearthing a few secrets. Over the coming weeks and months there will undoubtedly be an endless stream of tips, tricks, and tweaks to try out, but how's this for starters? Windows 10 has a secret screen recording tool that can be used to capture on-screen activity as a video file. Taking a static screenshot is very simple. You can either hit the Print Screen key, use the Snipping Tool, or turn to one of the countless screen capture tools out there — many of which are free. When it comes to capturing video, however, it's something of a different story. Before you splash out on a dedicated tool such as Camtasia, you might want to try out Windows 10's hidden tool. It's designed for gamers really, but anyone can use it. The Game bar is a toolbar which Microsoft meant for gamers to use to capture screenshots of their high scores, as well as video footage of their gaming skills. Despite the name, it is not limited to use within games

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  1. I hope it's a standard API by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Both NVIDIA and AMD have methods of capturing directly on the GPU, making for a blissfully lag-free experience compared to, say, FRAPS.

    Hopefully Windows has created a standard interface for these, and not just reimplemented FRAPS.

  2. Re:Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where do you buy your weed? The paranoia is amazing

  3. Netflix and Movie Library by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ah crystal clear recordings of my favorite movies and shows. Soon I can just drop my subscription.

    Not really, but I did just run it with Netflix and it makes a perfect copy. I'm sure the copyright police are going to mash it with a banhammer soon enough.

    1. Re:Netflix and Movie Library by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      That's actually a bit surprising. Microsoft sure went to a lot of trouble with their precious 'protected media path', so if their own application is merrily recording a DRMed stream(as I believe Netflix is on all supported platforms); either they've screwed up or Netflix couldn't be bothered to use the feature. I imagine that re-compressed copies of streams aren't terribly high priority; but I would have imagined that they'd be contractually obligated to at least pretend to care.

    2. Re:Netflix and Movie Library by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Never used imgur before but here it goes...

      http://imgur.com/ZdUNJN7

      Hard to prove video with a photo but I included the thumbnail of the file, the file properties showing it was recorded using the x-box dvr and chrome, and it paused on VLC. I also picked a netflix show. It's about the most proof I can bring.

    3. Re:Netflix and Movie Library by Blue+Stone · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's OK, there'll be a fix for that.

      The Windows 10 mandatory updates that you won't be able to deny permission for, will take care of it.

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    4. Re:Netflix and Movie Library by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2

      With DRM in HTML5 it has secure endpoints on both ends between a monitor and video card handshake. No it won't work on any copyright protected content

    5. Re:Netflix and Movie Library by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Netflix probably didn't enable the full retard mode, because it would break things for a lot of people. Want to watch on a DVI monitor? Sorry, it doesn't support HDCP encryption like HDMI does. They will have just used the standard windows D3D surface method that foils normal screen capture apps.

      Unfortunately for them Microsoft have created a tool that can capture D3D surfaces and encode them on the GPU, much like the XBone and PS4 do. Netflix appear to be stuck between a rock and a hard place until Microsoft implement a new API, because they don't want to cripple their app on e.g. laptops that don't bother with a full encrypted path to the internal LCD.

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  4. Re:Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    in10 looks like a real joy.. Mandated Updates No MediaCenter Now this Screen Recording Tool

    Microsoft has long had RDC, and they could read anything important you were doing with your PC (not direct GPU access) anyway if you had it open and you assume they had a back door into it. You're always in the position of having to trust the maker of your OS, unless it's you.

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  5. May be for troubleshooting, but alternatives exist by Aryeh+Goretsky · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hello,

    It will be somewhat useful for troubleshooting, but Windows 7 has had the Problem Steps Recorder (filename: PSR.EXE) for years now, and Microsoft has offered a screen recording tool since at least 2009 for download via TechNet.

    Regards,

    Aryeh Goretsky

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  6. Re:Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    by the CIA / FBI / NSA.

  7. Welcome to 2009 by Dan+B. · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not to create a Mac vs Windows argument, but Quicktime X has had screen recording for OS X since Snow Leopard

    Normally it is Apple who are the laggards

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    1. Re:Welcome to 2009 by viperidaenz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Welcome to June 2009 you mean.

      Welcome to March 2009 https://technet.microsoft.com/...

  8. Re:Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by QuietLagoon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The paranoia is amazing

    Considering the exploit record of Microsoft Windows, I'd say his paranoia is quite justified.

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    Indeed, if only Microsoft were as paranoid about people exploiting vulnerability vectors into Windows.......

  9. Open Broadcaster Software is a great free one by Rooked_One · · Score: 3, Informative

    Works for everything... a little complex, but it has tons of features and you can customize it quite a bit for your needs.

  10. Re: Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Blackberry

  11. Re:Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by QuietLagoon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    and which OS platform doesn't have a list of exploits and vulnerabilities as long as an elephants trunk over the last decade?

    The current thread is about Windows, and that is why I mentioned Windows. You can call it "born for prejudice or ignorance". I prefer to call it "staying on topic".

  12. Re:Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by rtb61 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So your saying the built in screen recording tool is not the perfect app for use with the NSA back door. It really does make a lot more sense to build in the tools to be exploited than to try to sneak past the larger download to add in the required privacy invasive software. So how much were M$ paid to bundle it or did they do if for free, keeping in mind how greedy they are, I could not see them doing it for free. So can on can not the tool be completely uninstalled, actually deleted and not present at all and can upgrade be set to manual.

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  13. Re:Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 2

    Yeah who wants to bet this can be activated remotely....
    Win10 looks like a real joy.. Mandated Updates
    No MediaCenter
    Now this Screen Recording Tool
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    The Exploits are going to be really interesting

    Windows screen capture, don't need it, being a gamer I've always had Fraps at the press of a button. I do wonder how this will affect alt+prtscr (only the selected window). As far as I'm aware Fraps has never been exploited. But there is no indication it's recording and I have many games recorded because of that, only when I get an out of disk space do I clue in.

    Yet on the other hand, I get some of my better (Youtubeable) selections when reviewing what I hadn't intended to capture.

    I actually have a Windows 95 Release Party TShirt

    I LOL'd, just yesterday I found and wore my "The ProWriter cometh" tee shirt, (It's been many many years since I have) it came with the very first printer I purchased (dot matrix).

    Nope not upgrading.. not now anyway

    I'm in the same boat; upgrade, why? All of these updates to make the change from 7 (in my case) to 10 easier - that's just marketing. I plan on buying or other the stand alone CD as I always have. I figure past practice has shown a version updated OS is just a problem, not to mention windows need of a clean install of the OS every 6 months (Win7 has been different, I haven't needed to reinstall yet).

  14. Re:Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by cavreader · · Score: 2

    Putting spyware in routers going overseas, and the key word here is overseas, is what a foreign intelligence service does to fulfill the mandate of their agencies. Clandestine foreign security and intelligence agencies across the world return the favor by doing everything they can possibly do to collect military, political, and industrial information from the US. The US Constitution and Bill of Rights do not come into play outside of US sovereign territory. And no one has ever found any government mandated back doors in Windows and that is not from a lack of people trying. And I think the NSA should be disbanded as soon as every other foreign intelligence service in the world does the same thing. But we would probably still have to maintain some type of foreign intelligence service just to make sure the other security services were actually disbanded.

  15. Re:Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Insightful

    there's gullibility, where someone trusts people they shouldn't

    there's shrewdness, where someone will intelligently verify someone before gradually trusting them

    then there's a sort of toxic level of distrust which is not intelligent and is just as hobbling to your life as gullibility. even though those with toxic levels of distrust see themselves as somehow more intelligent than the cluelessly naive and gullible, they aren't really, they are the same level of foolishness which is unintelligent and ruins your life

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  16. Re:Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by Billly+Gates · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The paranoia is amazing

    Considering the exploit record of Microsoft Windows, I'd say his paranoia is quite justified.

    .

    Indeed, if only Microsoft were as paranoid about people exploiting vulnerability vectors into Windows.......

    As unpopular as my post is going to get on such an anti MS and pro Linux site I have to say MS really did do a good job after the security Memo from 2004 starting with Vista in terms of security. I would rank it as one of the most secure operating systems behind OpenBSD and MVS as number 3.

    Modern Windows has all the apis go through ACL to prevent bypasses that explains UAC prompts in Vista. It also now randomizes data in the ram to prevent injections via ASLR. It has a signed bootloader to prevent rootkits. It can now accurately separate storage vs execution data to prevent buffer overflows. It has kernel level sandboxing with low-rights mode which Chrome and IE use for default which severely limit FS and services access. Windows Server can be powershell only which can limit 90% of the exploits with GDI and excess services that no longer need to be patched and so on.

    All the exploits you read are from Adobe and Java which due to XP compatibility can't use modern features such as low-rights mode due to people not wanting to change.

    I am not saying it is an amazing OS but it is not WIndows 98 anymore where pointers and crashes were all over and all you had to do was put your code in a ram address where a known pointer would look and BAM 0wned!

  17. Re:Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by Forever+Wondering · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Isn't that something? It should be easy enough to check for, yet buffer overflows are still very common.

    Microsoft came up with an API to handle buffer overflows that take buffer descriptors [that have base/end/length] instead of mere pointers (e.g. memcpy --> memcpy_safe).

    But, trying to retrofit that over a code base of tens of millions of lines of code isn't easy and has it's own set of problems for QA'ing the result. For example, suppose you do a retrofit for certain code sections, do a full QA. You may break every system in the world because your QA suite missed something. With Win10, hopefully, automatic rollback on recent changes will be part of the newer "continuous update" model. With that, the risk of adding some additional checking will be smaller, so MS will be encouraged to do more code review and cleanup.

    Further, WinX, by architectural design and needless complexity, has many more avenues of attack than Unix/Linux/*BSD POSIX systems. Buffer overflow is but one, and it's the easiest to spot in a code review.

    Case in point: Stuxnet

    Before getting to the centrifuge controllers, stuxnet had to penetrate windows. It did so by putting attack code in a printer font. The WinX print spooler [inside the kernel] executed code in user space memory from ring 0. This is bad design for two reasons:
    (1) putting a print spooler in the kernel at all [on all other above systems, the spooler is just a utility].
    (2) Executing any code from user space memory by the kernel running at ring 0 [This is architecturally impossible by the other OSes]

    This is [very old] legacy code from the MS/DOS days when there was no supervisor/user mode distinction [on an 8086]. In other words, they never bothered to change this in 20+ years. Contrast this to the fact that most Unixes back then used mc68000's which came out at the same time and did have supervisor/user modes baked into the hardware. None of the POSIX based systems have any way at all for the kernel to do what WinX was doing [the calldown to user space].

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  18. Re:Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    Nitpick: you mean Remote Assistance, not RDC.

    Don't tell me what I mean, especially when you're wrong: I mean RDC. RA is powered by RDC.

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  19. Re:Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by Hadlock · · Score: 2

    I think you mean the memo from 2002, and so others can find it, here's a link to it.

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  20. Re:Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by Patrix · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The US Constitution and Bill of Rights do not come into play outside of US sovereign territory.

    It does not come into play much inside the US territory, either, if the last few years of leaks and news are any indication.

  21. Re: Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by ravenshrike · · Score: 2

    The question is whether there is an obvious non-removable transparent indicator that the system is running. If yes, then there is little to no threat of the system being used by malware/spyware. If no, then sooner or later it will be used as such.

  22. Re:Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    Trust is something that is gained hard and easily lost.

    Give me one good reason why I should assume that MS has the security of my data in mind and would not instantly and without thinking twice hand it over to anyone willing to throw money or the book at them.

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  23. Re:Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    No, he isn't.

    At least I've never seen him at any meeting.

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  24. Re:Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2

    Well, one unwelcome trend more recently is for software updates that actually remove or break functionality, or indeed the entire system. This has certainly happened several times with Windows updates, and other vendors have screwed up similarly (ask anyone who was using -- or rather, trying to use -- Creative Cloud a few weeks ago).

    Another unwelcome trend is abusing the software update process to push entirely separate software. Windows update has been trying to get me to install various other Microsoft products for some time, and of course there was the now-infamous Windows 10 update nag screen a few weeks ago.

    If you want to be taken seriously as an OS provider, you have to provide security updates for a reasonable period after someone installs your system, but everything else can and should be separate. They clearly can do it, because the Enterprise edition will.

    However, given that Microsoft aren't making any money directly on providing the updates, not even to Windows 10 itself, and their stated aim is to monetize the surrounding ecosystem in the future instead, they have every incentive to lock as many people as they can into this compulsory update cycle and then start using the mechanism to promote or outright install new software or services that do make them money at your expense. And you consented, remember?

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  25. Re:Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by dave420 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... is also a "tad bit obvious", as every system reporting tool will gladly show you that your screen recording software is chewing up resources for no apparent reason. If the NSA wanted in to your machine they'd use a backdoor or exploit to gain access, then install their own software which you'd not recognise.

  26. Re:Windows 10 has Secret Screen Recording Tool by Forever+Wondering · · Score: 2

    afaik, supervisor mode wasnt added until 68030 or 40?

    No, the mc68000 always had supervisor/user mode [I was the chief systems programmer for a startup company that designed/manufactured/sold 68000 microprocessor systems and I'm quite familiar with it]. It also had an external MMU chip, which was almost unusable in practical systems [you couldn't use just one--you needed many of them]. Most companies [mine and others (including Sun)] developed their own MMUs from FPGAs.

    It had a 16 bit physical data buses, but logically [how a programmer saw it] was 32 bits. It had 8 data registers and 8 address registers. The address registers were 32 bit, but only the lower 24 bits were used [just like the IBM 370].

    You might be thinking of a virtual memory capable MMU, which was available as an external chip for the 68020 and integrated on die in the 68030. Note that while the 68010 is listed as having virtual memory support [via restartable instructions], it really couldn't be used easily for virtual memory.

    The 68000 was one of the first 32 bit architecture chips, along with the IBM 370 [mainframe] and the VAX. At the time, the 68000 was vastly superior technically/architecturally to the 16 bit Intel 8086. Intel realized this and initiated a marketing blitz that won the day. This is chronicled in Regis McKenna's book "The Regis Touch".

    See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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