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Universal Pictures Wants To Remove Localhost and IMDB Pages From Google Results

Artem Tashkinov writes: We've all known for a very long time that DCMA takedown requests are often dubious and even more often outright wrong but in a new turn of events a Universal Pictures contractor which does web censorship has requested a takedown of an IMDB page and the 127.0.0.1 address. I myself has seen numerous times that pages which barely include the title of an infringing work of art get removed from search engines.

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  1. Redirecting 127.0.0.1 by Galaga88 · · Score: 5, Funny

    That 127.0.0.1 site is nothing but trouble. That's why I redirect it in my HOSTS file to localhost.

    1. Re:Redirecting 127.0.0.1 by Galaga88 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Quite the opposite, I hope?

      I try not to let technical details get in the way of a lame joke.

    2. Re:Redirecting 127.0.0.1 by Rei · · Score: 5, Funny

      127.0.0.1 is clearly unresponsible to DMCA takedown efforts; legal approaches simply won't suffice. I recommend that Universal Pictures launch a coordinated effort hack into it using as many computers as possible, gain root access, and write over its hard drive.

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    3. Re:Redirecting 127.0.0.1 by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's clearly run by some scumbag hacker. I just went there, and he had all my files!

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    4. Re:Redirecting 127.0.0.1 by cdrudge · · Score: 5, Funny

      I just went there too. You have some really sick stuff, pervert!

    5. Re:Redirecting 127.0.0.1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      i launched a DOS attack on 127.0.0.1, i'm not sure how effective it will be though for some reason my computer has suddenly gotten really really slow.

    6. Re:Redirecting 127.0.0.1 by Kris+Warkentin · · Score: 4, Funny

      I checked 127.0.0.1 and didn't see any IMDB pages. I can see why they'd want it taken down though. It had a bunch of sick German ScheissePorn and some goat porn as well. I already had all of it though.

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    7. Re:Redirecting 127.0.0.1 by TWX · · Score: 4, Funny

      Relevant quote from bash.org...

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  2. Not Stupid Enough by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unfortunately, I have a feeling that no matter how blatantly bad and stupid these companies get with takedown abuse, it won't be until some senator or congressperson's page gets sent a spurious takedown notice. Anyone with any awareness or interest in the issue already knows how bad the situation is.

    Maybe this incident will get more press, but I'm not holding my breath.

    1. Re:Not Stupid Enough by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is what happens when you let industry write your damned laws.

      The DMCA was written in such a way as to basically leave a wide trail for companies to totally abuse and misuse it. Because this was the law they bought and paid for to ensure they could do anything they wanted without penalty.

      All of these issues were pointed out at the time, and the law got passed anyway, because these days the lawmakers are all beholden to industry and don't give a damn how badly the law has been written.

      But nobody at all should be surprised at this crap. Because it is pretty much by design -- they can do almost anything they want with no real accountability. All they have to do is claim incompetence and they're magically forgiven.

      It's a broken, lop-sided law which gave the copyright lobby the ability to threaten and intimidate as they see fit.

      But don't think for a minute this was by accident. The DMCA is one of the most industry friendly laws in existence, and completely failed to hold them to any standard of accountability.

      This is what happens when your legal system becomes co-opted to favor corporate interests above all else.

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    2. Re:Not Stupid Enough by Barny · · Score: 4, Funny

      You just gave me a great idea for a way to index torrents...

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    3. Re:Not Stupid Enough by flopsquad · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I recently read an excellent piece that addressed this subject. The proposed two-pronged solution was quite modest and yet could fix most of the DMCA problems in one fell swoop.

      1) Apply penalty of perjury to the entirety of the takedown notice, just as it is currently applied to counternotices.

      2) Take away safe harbor status not only for failing to abide by the notice process, but also for failing to abide by the counternotice process.

      Neither is earthshatteringly new, but it would take all of two lines of ink and a bit of political will. User-generated content companies like Google and Facebook could even provide that will. #1 is unambiguously good for them because it will lead to fewer DMCA notices they have to deal with. And even though #2 looks bad for them, it actually makes their lives much easier in that it legally mandates they do what they want to anyway (but which studios try to prevent): keep content up with minimal hassle.

      Note the bullshit Universal that was pulling back in 2007--issuing blanket (i.e. not in good faith) takedown notices for Prince's music to everyone on the internet (including the mom who posted video of her kids dancing)--is still being litigated.

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  3. Google's Opportunity by pubwvj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is Google's opportunity to kill two birds with one stone and do no evil:

    Forget Universal Pictures and the contractor.

  4. Punctuation & Spelling Counts, Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's not the "DCMA"; it's the "DMCA", also known as the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
    There should be a comma before the word "but" in the first (run-on) sentence.
    And it's not "I myself has seen"; it should be "I myself have seen".
    Even blogs need editors.

  5. The infringement is coming by wiredog · · Score: 5, Funny

    from INSIDE THE HOUSE!

  6. johnny depp by Sneftel · · Score: 5, Funny

    I checked out that site, and it's clearly infringing on Universal Pictures' recent film "You Have Successfully Installed Apache".

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  7. Re:torrentfreak anyone? by Rei · · Score: 4, Funny

    Google should interpret Universal's request to delist "127.0.0.1" as "We want you to delist us" and promptly oblige ;)

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  8. Re: Web censorship by silentcoder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It absolutely does and every free country on earth recognises this. That is exactly why all the disparate laws with so many differences you deceptively lump together as "intellectual property " do have one thing in common : they all have limitations that make them temporary. The mechanism of expiration vary widely but they all expire. No physical property rights expire. You can inherited land for unlimited generations. But copyright and patents have time limits, trademarks have to be renewed and are lost if they become generic. These expiration are exactly because they are, all, censorship and the trade off is only worth while if that censorship is temporary.

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  9. Here kitty kitty.... by freeze128 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I myself has seen numerous times that pages which barely include the title of an infringing work of art get removed from search engines.

    Does you yourself has cheezburger?

  10. On a more serious note .... by whoever57 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What this implies is that the contractor that Universal employs to send takedown notices has an illegal copy of Jurassic World on their own system!

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  11. DMCA abused for SEO purposes by BenJeremy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We all agree that it's a bot being used to detect references to Universal Picture's works... but the purpose? Not to stop piracy, but to eliminate search results from competing with United's own marketing. While the IMDB link is obviously unintentional, it is also most likely the top result.

    Basically, they're knocking out anything that competes in searches, regardless of actual pirated content.

  12. Re:High-volume requesters should do "due diligence by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ha ha ha .. boy are you naive.

    See the DMCA was written in such a way as to shield the people filing the requests. When they wrote the law (and, yes, it was corporate lobbyists who wrote it) they gave themselves a get out of jail free card ... so while they are effectively making a sworn statement, all they have to do is say they genuinely believed it was infringing and all is forgiven.

    The DMCA is badly written because it was designed to let corporations do anything they want without consequences.

    Talking about adding a voluntary system whereby they are held to some level of accountability? Not gonna happen.

    Because the people who were on the corporate payroll to pass the laws in the first place only care about what the corporations have told them to do.

    Welcome to a world in which governments are basically working to advance corporate interests above all else.

    Crap like this is kind of the inevitable outcome of that, and the copyright lobby have bought themselves the keys to the kingdom.

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  13. Just who's really being hurt here? by Fortran+IV · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, who's hurt if Google delists the movie's IMDB page? Heck, Google should just delist every page about every Universal Pictures title in current release. See how fast Universal finds the problems with their automated takedown notices when all their titles—all their theater listings—disgoogle at once.

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  14. DMCA takedown system is a farce by ScienceofSpock · · Score: 5, Interesting

    About 10 months ago, I found my high school graduation video cassette from 1987, so I picked up a used VCR and ripped it and put it up on youtube for family to view. Last month, I uploading another video and noticed that a DMCA claim had been placed on my graduation video, but the "copyright holder" would allow the video to remain, they were just going to monetize it. My graduation video was shot by my brother and had our high school band playing Pomp and Circumstance, which is in the public domain. There is no way this is under copyright, so I looked them up and the "song" that I was allegedly violating the copyright of. It turns out that the "copyright holder" was a crappy English DJ duo who had appropriated Pomp and Circumstance in one of their soccer fight songs. The funny part is that my video is 28 years old, their song is about a year old.

    I countered their claim with all the info above and the claim was removed.

    I realize this was probably a simple signature match, but it only goes to show how broken this system is. I didn't actually received an email about the DMCA claim. There are only 2 emails in my inbox containing the video title, one was when I published it and the other was when the copyright claim was removed, so they don't appear to even be notifying people when a claim is made, at least in the case where the "copyright holder" decides to monetize rather than take the video down, and that is even more nefarious in my opinion. I wasn't monetizing my video, and it has less than 50 views, but if I had been monetizing it and had a larger audience, they would have been stealing from me without my even knowing it. I only noticed the original claim when I uploaded another video to youtube.