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Nintendo TVii Service Will Go Dark August 11th

Posted by timothy on from the will-also-stay-dark-for-the-days-to-follow dept.

Kotaku reports that Nintendo has announced it will shutter its Wii U TVii in just a few weeks; after August 11th, the service will be no more. The description that Kotaku offers gives some idea of why: Nintendo TVii promised to turn television watching into a robust social experience, tracking users' favorite shows, making suggestions based on familial preferences, integrating with all of the major streaming video services, programming DVR recordings and acting as a second screen experience on the Wii U game pad. It sounded pretty amazing. It wasn’t really. It was awkward and fumbling and a year later the Xbox One came along with its HDMI pass-through and voice-controlled TV watching and made Nintendo TVii look silly."

34 comments

  1. Logo by krakass · · Score: 0

    Could we find a smaller Nintendo logo? There current one is just too big.

  2. What's TVii? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't wait to see it!

  3. "...tracking users' favorite shows.." by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    yeah, that's how to do it.

  4. Tracking users' favorite shows? by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Do you want to lose users?

    Because that's how you lose users.

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    1. Re:Tracking users' favorite shows? by LMariachi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Most people, even those with some inkling of concern with privacy, really don't give a shit if a company knows what shows they like. All it means is they might get ads that might interest them instead of ads that are totally irrelevant.

      TV preferences aren't medical records or bank statements or Ashley Madison accounts.

    2. Re:Tracking users' favorite shows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sadly, that's not how you lose users. At all. If anything it is how you gain them.

      Play Steam games? XBone? PS4? Every game you play, for how long, etc is tracked.

      Have a smart phone? Your travels are tracked. Your contacts are tracked.

      Use Facebook? Your friends network is tracked.

      Use gmail? What you say to your friends is tracked.

      People have demonstrated conclusively over years and years now that they do NOT care about being tracked. All the above things are wildly popular. If this thing failed, it wasn't because of that, it was because it didn't hold up in some other way that people wanted it to.

    3. Re:Tracking users' favorite shows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only stuff that we -seriously- need to be concerned about are patterns that show sociopathic, problematic patterns.

      "This guy sure enjoys gun shows,quackery and Duck Dynasty, perhaps we shouldn't allow this nutjob to buy guns"

      "This fat-tub-o-lard loves to watch dieting shows, let's make sure we constantly parade every snake-oil diet fad commercial in front of them"

      Hence, even if this information isn't valuable at the individual level, it's very valuable to determine who the next terrorist is going to be.

    4. Re:Tracking users' favorite shows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it's not like your cable provider already does that.

    5. Re:Tracking users' favorite shows? by Xest · · Score: 2

      Yeah, there are other reasons it's not really the issue though.

      I'm going to come out and admit that I like the Wii U, I have all last gen and current gen consoles, and it's one of my favourites. It's not got the power of my PS4 or my X1, and sure it's been screwed on 3rd party game support leaving it few titles.

      But it does have some quality titles, at the end of the day Nintendo has still put out more high quality 1st party titles that deserve game ratings in the 90%+ range than Nintendo and Sony have managed to acquire even with heavier 3rd party support.

      Though it doesn't really matter, because Nintendo games are DIFFERENT. I don't play Wii U because I want to gun some bitches down, I don't play Wii U because I want to rip someone's heart out, I don't play Wii U because I want to pretend I'm a wizard battling vile demons in dark dungeons full of dismembered corpses. I play Wii U because sometimes pratting about bouncing around the screen or doing puzzles with colours flying at me left and right is actually also fun, and the Wii U does that like no other. So I'm not saying I think the Wii U is the greatest thing ever, it's not. What I am saying is that it's a fantastic complimentary console to the X1, the PS4, or a PC - it has it's place alongside the big hitters in providing a type of fun that the others just do not offer.

      But despite my love for the Wii U in spite of it's failings, I didn't even know this TVii service existed. I've never heard of it or seen it, or if I have then it was so irrelevant that I've forgotten about it.

      I'd say that if this failed, it failed because most people didn't even notice it. Certainly I never did and I suspect I've put as much time into my Wii U as your average owner, if not more. Tracking would be the least of my concerns if I never even really noticed it was there, or what it did to even use it so it could track me in the first place.

      I'd say this is a failing based more on the fact it's a service few people even realise exists, on a console which hasn't sold well. Combine those together and you'll end up with a userbase so small that it's just not worth the cost of supporting. I'm not surprised therefore that the first I hear of this is that it's shutting down, and as a Wii U user, I don't really care either.

    6. Re:Tracking users' favorite shows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > it's very valuable to determine who the next terrorist is going to be.
      Given enough data you will find patterns. You're assuming a lot - where is the evidence for that (do you have or have you ever seen any kind of backtesting?)

      Otherwise big data will come to mean little more than permitting the prosecutor's fallacy on a grand scale and facilitating selective enforcement when someone does something a hypothetical they don't like.

    7. Re: Tracking users' favorite shows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most people need things that aren't relevant to their tv/internet/gaming habits. What then?

    8. Re: Tracking users' favorite shows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Then they derive/guess your age, gender, location and income bracket...

    9. Re:Tracking users' favorite shows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You forgot a pretty big and important one in your list.

      Do you watch more than basic cable already? Then you are already tracked, down to logging every button press on your cable box remote control, including DVR functions like pause/play and normal functions like volume and mute.

      If you use Nintendo or Xbox TV (or presumably the new PSN TV once it is launched) most all people are already required to have a service that tracks you before the additional service that also tracks you will even function.

      Since over 99% of people using this feature are already tracked and don't care, one more layer of tracking is nothing to get up in arms about.

      The few people that do care won't be using any form of cable TV in the first place, so the consoles TV won't function even if they want it to, which they don't due to tracking.

      The fraction of a fraction of a percent of the people that allow themselves to be tracked by cable and don't mind, but don't want to also be tracked the same way by a console company, is literally not worth worrying about.
      The less than 100 of you are pretty much written off as crazy and hypocritical anyway, so nothing any of those companies do will have a consistent effect on even a single person let alone the whole group.

    10. Re:Tracking users' favorite shows? by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      If I have to be subjected to ads, I want them to be irrelevant. I'd rather be bored than tempted to spend money.

      Of course, in reality I just avoid ads altogether (including rejecting services that have them, such as cable TV).

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    11. Re:Tracking users' favorite shows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "People have demonstrated conclusively over years and years now that they do NOT care about being tracked."

      It has nothing to do with it, human beings do not possess free will, the human mind did not evolve to deal with the kind of society human beings have built for themselves.

    12. Re: Tracking users' favorite shows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which still tells them absolutely nothing about that person's purchashing habits.

    13. Re:Tracking users' favorite shows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not most people.

  5. NO LINK. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    there is NO LINK. what gives?

    1. Re:NO LINK. by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2, Funny

      Chickens killed him?

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    2. Re:NO LINK. by Kohath · · Score: 2

      It's Nintendo. Post your friend code in the comment section below and they'll send you a link in the mail.

    3. Re:NO LINK. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there is NO LINK. what gives?

      That's what Google is for.

    4. Re:NO LINK. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there is NO LINK. what gives?

      What need is there of a link? The summary tells us everything we need to know. No one here reads the articles, anyway.

  6. Kotaku hates you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    You gamers are dead to them. They said so.

    1. Re: Kotaku hates you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those fat lesbian cunts are out to ruin everything we enjoy.

      Except for fat lesbian cunt porn; it's difficult to make without fat lesbian cunts. Fat lesbian cunts. Fat. Lesbian. Cunts.

    2. Re: Kotaku hates you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And good riddance. Nobody wanted to be associated with that crowd of losers anyway. Now that Cool People play games there's a better audience.

  7. Well by Lirodon · · Score: 1

    Actually, it's a shame, cause TVii had an interesting expansion of the concept of TV/social media integration (even though it was something already done by apps such as tvtag), plus unlike OneGuide, it actually had the CORRECT LISTINGS for my provider (last time I tried it, the channel list for my provider was out of date)

    1. Re:Well by sanf780 · · Score: 1

      However, the problem you described should not be solved by a third party like Nintendo TVii - it should have been fixed by the ones delivering the programmes to the households. We have been given EPG for years now, and the broadcasters still cannot match their internal timetable to the EPG listings. I am not sure if it is malice or incopetence this time.

  8. Editor, palm, face by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Kotaku reports that Nintendo's has..."
    Nintendo is has announced? Was has? I am not knowing.

  9. Argh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That "Other TV" feature is what I bought a Wii U for!!! And now Nintendo took it away from us!!!


    Bait and switch!!!

    1. Re:Argh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you were the only one. Why do you think it's shutting down?

  10. Kotaku reports... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who did Mike fuck to get this story?

  11. TVii who? by sanf780 · · Score: 1

    Did it launch in Europe?

    1. Re:TVii who? by F.Ultra · · Score: 1

      No it never did