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950 Million Android Phones Can Be Hijacked By Malicious Text Messages

techtech writes: According to security firm Zimperium a flaw called "Stagefright" in Google's Android operating system can allow hackers take over a phone with a message even if the user doesn't open it. The vulnerability affects about 950 million Android devices. In a blog post Zimperium researchers wrote: "A fully weaponized successful attack could even delete the message before you see it. You will only see the notification. These vulnerabilities are extremely dangerous because they do not require that the victim take any action to be exploited. Unlike spear-phishing, where the victim needs to open a PDF file or a link sent by the attacker, this vulnerability can be triggered while you sleep. Before you wake up, the attacker will remove any signs of the device being compromised and you will continue your day as usual—with a trojaned phone."

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  1. idiots by bws111 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hey morons, you already posted this TODAY.

    1. Re:idiots by edtice1559 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Probably a proof-of-concept exploit that causes the editors to post dupes when they receive the payload!

    2. Re:idiots by msauve · · Score: 2

      The first article isn't even gone from the front page yet. /. "editors" strike again.

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    3. Re: idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That iPhone venerability has already been patched.

    4. Re: idiots by TheRealQuestor · · Score: 2

      I actually like my Lumia 520. Not because it's safer but because it's not android or ios. I don't care about apps because I really don't use them. I just care that it makes phone calls without dropping and text messages work. Bonus is it is running Windows 10 pretty well for such a cheap phone. All wins to me.

    5. Re:idiots by painandgreed · · Score: 3, Funny

      The first article isn't even gone from the front page yet. /. "editors" strike again.

      I saw another dupe over the weekend. Maybe they're trying to appease all the old readers by making it seem more like pre-DIce Slashdot.

    6. Re: idiots by BronsCon · · Score: 2

      Oh, just wait until the x86 Windows phones come out, though. It'll be just as attractive as the Windows desktop, because it will be the exact same software. For anyone already writing a Windows exploit, the effort required to exploit an x86 Windows phone will be 0.

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    7. Re: idiots by dave.haku · · Score: 1

      A Windows phone just doesn't give a good enough reward to exploit or find exploits for, it's not that there aren't vulnerabilities.

      It is nice to see we've come full circle. That has been the Microsoft defense for years for Windows and everybody is quick to downplay it.

      I've yet to see lag or stutter on an Android device, though I suspect that has to do more with buying crap phones than the OS

      My HTC One M8 lags and stutters and I have to reboot it. Granted, not all the time, but it certainly does. You might want proof, but I'm too lazy for that, so you'll have to take it from me or ignore it. Plus, Windows pones are rumored to perform well even on low end HW, but hey, that's only what I've heard.

      ...and the UI looks like the garbage 8 interface.

      Personal opinion. So, I really like the interface on both Windows 8.1 PRO and Windows 8.1 Phone, so there, that should balance it.

    8. Re: idiots by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      Doing *nothing* is more difficult than sending a specially crafted MMS message? I suppose I can see that with the younger generations, as doing nothing would require them to put their damn phones down. You're also missing the point that the entire catalog of already existing x86 Windows malware will be available on an x86 Windows phone. Anything capable of attacking a current version of Windows on an x86-based PC will be able to attack Windows on an x86-base phone. That's millions of pieces of malware right there.

      And let's not ignore the fact that the sheer number of Android devices that are and will remain vulnerable to this exploit falls squarely on the shoulders of the device manufacturers who don't release updates and the carriers who don't distribute them once released. This is not an issue on Nexus devices, nor is it an issue on "Google Edition" devices, for both classes of which Google directly releases updates. My Nexus 6 was patched against this weeks ago; the lack of updates is not an Android problem, it is a manufacturer and carrier problem, easily worked around by selecting a device for which Google does directly supply updates, and getting the better, faster, and cleaner "vanilla" Android experience as an added benefit.

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  2. ..all versions of Android after and including 2.2 by OutOnARock · · Score: 5, Insightful

    95% of them will never be patched........thanks for all the fragmentation.....

  3. I'm okay... by pubwvj · · Score: 1

    No Android.
    No smartphone.
    No cellphone.
    My telephone's an old fashion really dumb land line. One thing you gotta love about being behind the times is not getting hacked.

    1. Re:I'm okay... by AuMatar · · Score: 1

      If you never use any computer you're even safer. I suggest you throw out the one you typed this on.

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    2. Re:I'm okay... by Scot+Seese · · Score: 1

      Pfft. I'm outside your house clipping my orange lineman's handset into your Bell box, so I can listen to all your calls.

      Wait until I tell the guys at 2600 Magazine about this! er33t h4x!

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    3. Re:I'm okay... by msauve · · Score: 2

      "If you never use any computer you're even safer. I suggest you throw out the one you typed this on."

      I'd think his public library would be upset by that.

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    4. Re:I'm okay... by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      You must be awfully fun at all the parties you never get invited to.

      They're horrible at parties. Always bugging people who are on their phones with trying to talk face to face and stuff.

    5. Re:I'm okay... by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      My telephone's an old fashion really dumb land line...

      Oh I know, right? I keep a couple tin cans and some string around in case things get really bad.

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    6. Re:I'm okay... by ZorinLynx · · Score: 1

      One nice thing about using candles is not having to worry about power failures.

      (I don't get this attitude; depriving yourself of cool things so you don't have to deal with the inconvenience of those things breaking?)

    7. Re:I'm okay... by pubwvj · · Score: 1

      No, this article was specific to the Android. Try to stay on topic no matter how your mind wanders...

    8. Re:I'm okay... by pubwvj · · Score: 1

      Ah, but there's the rub. You think the Android phone a cool new thing. What Smartphones really are is gussied up old tech (voice) with a new suit that makes them more vulnerable. I very rarely use voice phone. I use email which is far faster and more efficient. I also don't communicate things via email that are worth "listening" into so the fact that email is a postcard is not an issue either. In either case, you can't hack my email the way the Android phone hack is being done - that was the point of the original poster's article.

      Email simply more efficient than voice no matter how fancy your phone. Catch up with the times and ditch your phone.

    9. Re:I'm okay... by pubwvj · · Score: 1

      Have fun. I hope you don't get too bored since I almost never use the phone and I never say anything on it that matters... Virtually all of my communications are via email - which is an open postcard so nothing interesting there either - and email is not hackable. It is the Android system that is the subject of the hacking in the original poster's article or perhaps you didn't read that. That's why candles, tin cans, old dial up phones have an advantage - they're simply not remotely hackable. So hook into the line and listen to your hearts content while you continue to miss the point. :)

  4. Dupe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    http://it.slashdot.org/story/15/07/27/1416257/stagefright-flaw-compromise-android-with-just-a-text

  5. "A fully weaponized successful attack could even delete the message before you see it."

    A fully weaponized attack could take screenshots and camera pictures of you tossing off at Wikiarmpits.

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  6. Re:..all versions of Android after and including 2 by ne0n · · Score: 1, Informative

    CM and nearly all custom roms are immune and Lollipop is completely unaffected. Next time don't buy a carrier device.

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  7. Re:..all versions of Android after and including 2 by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Informative

    95% of them will never be patched........thanks for all the fragmentation.....

    EXCEPT 5.0 Lollipop, because Lollipop uses a different media framework. Which I'm sure has its own issues, but thankfully, even a year after release, its marketshare is tiny enough that it doesn't matter.

    Even worse, it's a bug inside the OS itself, so it's not like Google can actually fix the problem like they have using Google Services Framework.

    It can only be fixed by a rooted device or a software update to replace the broken library.

  8. Re:..all versions of Android after and including 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You can blame the carriers for much of that fragmentation.

    Finger pointing.

    The time-worn bullshit excuse that obviously never gets old.

    If at first you don't succeed, fucking blame someone else.

  9. Old tech is good tech by NewtonsLaw · · Score: 1

    And this is why I use a $9 phone that has support for nothing other than voice calls and plaintext SMS. Not only is it free from the effects of such exploits but the battery also lasts two weeks between charges, it fits very nicely in even the smallest pocket and doesn't distract me when I should be working or spending time with friends and family.

    I only upgraded to this phone because I found the cranking handle on the side of my old phone was snagging on my pocket and the operator was sometimes very slow to respond with "number please" when I tried to summon her attention :-)

    1. Re:Old tech is good tech by DamonHD · · Score: 1

      Surely the trailing wire back to the exchange was a bigger problem?

      Rgds

      Damon

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    2. Re:Old tech is good tech by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      But does it work on verizon? Most of the cheap basic phones ive seen are gsm only.

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    3. Re:Old tech is good tech by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Would you want it to work on Verizon? I mean, they're advertiser-friendly unique-id headers alone should make you swear them off.

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    4. Re:Old tech is good tech by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      First they do actually let you turn of the uuid thing now.
      I turned it off same day they added the option to do so.
      Still annoyed about that but aside from switching to a less reliable provider not a lot else I can do.

      Second I don't actually do a lot of browsing on my Samsung convoy 3 the ssl warning in combination with the small screen makes it a serious pita just to look up the weather.

      Third att/sprint/tmobile all have pretty crappy service by me although att has gotten much better in my area in the last couple of years.

      Fourth I suppose I could switch to att as they are pretty close in coverage but those Indian call centers are killer and I have to be checked in before I can look around the effing store wtf??

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    5. Re:Old tech is good tech by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      And this is why I use a $9 phone that has support for nothing other than voice calls and plaintext SMS. Not only is it free from the effects of such exploits but the battery also lasts two weeks between charges, it fits very nicely in even the smallest pocket and doesn't distract me when I should be working or spending time with friends and family.

      You insensitive fucking clod, my wife read that, got all excited, and left me. Said something about wanting to have your babies. You must get that a lot though.

      Slashdot kooks are getting like that crazy uncle who brags about not having email. Or a computer.

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  10. Re:..all versions of Android after and including 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What's wrong with blaming the people responsible for the issue?

  11. MMS vector by xarragon · · Score: 5, Informative

    TFA (requires obnoxious CAPTCHA just to read, wtf) makes it clear the payload is inside a media file attached to an MMS. Myself I do not use MMS since it seems to require OTA data to download the MMS payload, which is exceedingly expensive on my current prepaid plan. Old phones are pretty likely to be used like this; voice only, data only over wifi, so it might lessen the impact. Anyways, I am on Lollipop.

    1. Re:MMS vector by anarkhos · · Score: 1

      Better yet, with t-mobile you'll never get any messages anyway because they have no network t speak of

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    2. Re:MMS vector by nazsco · · Score: 1

      tmo doesn't have a unlimited plan, if that's what you're implying. I'm on the most expensive tier and it's 5gb.

    3. Re:MMS vector by BronsCon · · Score: 2

      Uhm... yes, they do. Simple Choice is $50, which has unlimited everything except LTE data (if which you get 1GB; data itself is technically unlimited at 2G speeds, though. For $60, you can get the same but with 3GB, for $70 you can get the same but with 5GB (which appears to be what you have) and, for $80, you can get the same with unlimited LTE, which is what I have had since the day they launched Simple Choice and I switched from AT&T. I just checked their website to get the current numbers for the lower plans, as the $50 level included only 250MB when I first signed up and has been doubled twice since then, so this is their current offering.

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  12. Why don't vendors and carriers get sued/fined? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    When I buy a new phone, it generally involves a two year contract. Even without a contract, it's reasonable to expect that a new phone will be supported for a couple of years. For phones where the carrier controls the software, like Android, that seems to be an implicit part of the service that the carrier is contracted to provide. I don't agree with lawsuits for buggy code, provided that there isn't negligence involved. However, when the vendor and carrier are aware of a problem and fail to provide a solution in a timely manner, why aren't they held legally responsible? I recognize that this doesn't put lives at risk, but is the inaction of vendors and carriers fundamentally different than, say, the negligence of Fiat Chrysler that they just got fined for? When will there be class action suits against manufacturers and vendors who delay pushing out security updates for relatively new phones?

    1. Re:Why don't vendors and carriers get sued/fined? by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      I recognize that this doesn't put lives at risk

      System-corrupting malware installed onto an on-call doctor's phone via this exploit, causing a boot-loop so no calls or messages can get through.

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  13. Re:..all versions of Android after and including 2 by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    If it can be exploited remotely for root access then it can be patched remotely by a non-vendor. I guess we will see stagefright patch apps start appearing over the next few days.

    Obviously, nobody can rely on the lame-ass vendors, even if they had their heart in it.

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  14. Re:idiots (OH NOES THE BOOGIE MAN GONNA GET YOU) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Hey morons, you already posted this TODAY.

    Piece of shit Windows 10 comes out in a couple days. Some obscure-wtf-bullshit site zimperium(?!) posts on their own blog. So now it's the end of the world. All Androids are fucking rooted while you slept last night. Aw shit. Damn. This is supposedly because of vulnerable MMS video lag prevention features in "stagefright libraries".

    FUD. 2x dupe on Slashdot raises the credibility eyebrow. c|net has had zero credibility with me for many years.

    http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/android-stagefright-mms-hack-news/
    "The good news is that hackers weren’t aware of the vulnerability, so it’s unlikely anyone is utilizing it at the moment. However, disclosures of the bugs will be released today, which means that exploiters will have enough information to start writing code."

    In other words, if there even is a vulnerability capable of exploiting Android MMS with a text message, nobody has done it except allegedly whoever the hell zimperium "security researchers" are.

    Now that it's in full blast FUD mode, Google and everybody else for sure sees it. As retarded as that would be to have mysterious hackers "send a txt message and pwn your phone" from the shadows of the underworld... I foresee zero chance of it happening. 0.00% chance but I see websites calling it "THE MOTHER OF ALL EXPLOITS". Nah homies. Fuck you.

    I see here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/android-mms-stagefright-exploit-t3166457

    One poster in the xda dev forum thread above says patches were sent by Google weeks ago. The poster links to a Forbes article. Another commenter shows how to disable the player by editing your build.prop

    Nothing to see here folks. Not shit to do. Wait a day or two until stories say Welp, that was a big nothing.

    Install Linux before Windows 10 comes out is my advice. distrowatch.com

    tl;dr "oh shit Android needs a patch before somebody besides zimperium researchers (?!) figure out how to exploit the #1 mobile OS in the world!!11"

    And this little bit of code supposedly does what? Does it auto-start a program on your phone already that connects to some IP address in Romania and begin to upload all your photos? Does it overclock your chips like STUXNET and your phone spins out of control in your pocket, melting your legs? We are supposed to be in suspense to find out what "they" do. LOL This shit is stupid. Double posting it? Ya, long memory here.

  15. Re:..all versions of Android after and including 2 by ZorinLynx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's the phone makers' faults. Sorry, but that's just the way it is.

    Apple has shown that it's possible for the device manufacturer to deploy new software directly. Yet in the Android world, it's still the carriers doing it. There's only a few phones where the manufacturer pushes new updates (and even those don't tend to be supported as long as iPhones do)

    The Android world needs to wake the hell up and start supporting its users properly. It's ridiculous that this sort of situation can happen; if a similar exploit appeared for iOS, Apple would patch devices in 10 seconds flat.

  16. Question with data mode on/off by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 1

    If the data plan is turned off, you can't get any multimedia. It isn't an optimal solution, but turning data off will protect you, right?

    1. Re:Question with data mode on/off by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 1

      Which is the funny part, that I don't use a data plan or that I think it will protect against MMS? I don't even get images sent via texts, so I was wondering if I don't download any data if the payload can still hit.

  17. Rooting is over-rated by aNonnyMouseCowered · · Score: 5, Informative

    "It can only be fixed by a rooted device or a software update to replace the broken library."

    "Rooting" (or allowing runtime access to root-level functions) is unnecessary for fixing any Android OS-level problem. However an unlocked bootloader will allow you to install an unofficial update or patch (unfortunately also allowing you to install a malware). A "rooted" device is actually even more of a security risk, especially if you have to trust a closed-sourced "superuser" binary.

    Note that I distinguish between "rooted" Android systems that allow you to gain root level access on demand and those setups that allow for off-line root access via special recovery or debug modes that require a reboot and so is not available when running the system normally.

  18. The source is out there by samantha · · Score: 1

    Is the patch available?

  19. Editors don't read slashdot, maybe Google? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    If editors don't read Slashdot itself maybe they should Google their own website. I mean a simple search like: "Android Malicious Text url:slashdot.org" returns both articles.

    If editors google what they are about to post they can outsourse the job of reading the very site where they manage content.

  20. Re:..all versions of Android after and including 2 by Mashiki · · Score: 1

    CM and nearly all custom roms are immune and Lollipop is completely unaffected. Next time don't buy a carrier device.

    Some of us don't have a choice, some of us still don't have a choice. Welcome to Canada.

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  21. older devices don't get patched.. by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    for iphone 4 as well? I don't think soooo.

    anyhow... expect mobile networks to filter these messages in 1.2.3.4....

    either that or 400 million phones in use in asia will receive an attack today if the attack really works as described in the blurb (proof of concept that installs something or gtfo).

    (if you browse on a mobile from asia you might notice that shitloads of adverts that try to exploit or trick the user into installing sw. even slashdot carries occasionally ads targeted to asia tha will just straight up open another page that will try to fool the user into installing sw and doesn't let the user easily press back. thats without clicking the friggin advert. it's like ad networks do no curating whatsoever of asian targeted ads)

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  22. Re:..all versions of Android after and including 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    That is completely wrong. The blog post by the folks who discovered the vulnerability even includes screencaps of Lollipop 5.1.1 being taken over via MMS. Not sure where you got the idea that Lollipop and CM are unaffected.

  23. TURN OFF MMS by gl4ss · · Score: 2

    or never configure it in the first place to work.

    that's your fix.

    and slashdot editors: MMS IS NOT SMS SO FUCK YOU SLASHDOT EDITOR. it's not even remotely same technlogy.

    mms is vulnurable? duh. how about sharing the image preview vuln(presumably) that's actually used since that has much more to it than just mms. but that mms implementation is exploitable is quite a bit less fatal/interesting than sms vuln.

    besides than that I'm pretty fucking sure that 950 million android phones (total androids out there) don't have preview of mms in the notifications bar. only a subset has that feature. but the more interesting and potentially attackable route is through anything else that shows images.

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  24. Re: ..all versions of Android after and including by oobayly · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Coming from an android user, the gp is absolutely correct. Allowing carriers to decide whether updates are pushed out simply means that they never do so. It's the top item on the [fairly short] list of things that I wish would be copied from Apple.

  25. Use TextSecure / SMSSecure by ChoGGi · · Score: 1

    It'll give you a warning before stagefright is used

    https://github.com/WhisperSyst...
    you can find SMSSecure on f-droid

    Also check to make sure hangouts isn't using mms (just to be on the safe side)

  26. Re:..all versions of Android after and including 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    95% of them will never be patched........thanks for all the fragmentation.....

    EXCEPT 5.0 Lollipop, because Lollipop uses a different media framework. Which I'm sure has its own issues, but thankfully, even a year after release, its marketshare is tiny enough that it doesn't matter.

    Even worse, it's a bug inside the OS itself, so it's not like Google can actually fix the problem like they have using Google Services Framework.

    It can only be fixed by a rooted device or a software update to replace the broken library.

    This is completely wrong: 5.0 and 5.1 all include stagefright library. Nuplayer has been around for awhile and is a counterpart to Stagefright. Android has been moving toward deprecating Stagefright and replacing it with Nuplayer. In 5.0 this started with the inclusion options to allow manufactures to use nuplayer or stagefright as the default. Since nuplayer is still considered experimental there are been compatibility issues so most manufacturers shipped their 5.0 and 5.1 builds with the default still set to stagefright. Most all lollipop phones are still using stagefright by default because that is what the manufacturers set in their builds.

    On most phones with 5.x you can go into developer settings on the phone and turn the nuplayer under audio settings on which in theory should mitigate the vulnerability. Since this vulnerability really is 5 or more CVE's its a combination of more than a few bugs which means using nuplayer may not fully mitigate the vulnerability.

  27. CyanogenMod by Zanadou · · Score: 4, Informative

    Concerning CyanogenMod, this was posted to their Facebook page a few hours ago:

    Recent Stagefright issues

    The following CVE's have been patched in CM12.0 and 12.1 nightlies for a couple weeks. If you haven't updated already, we strongly encourage you to do so.

    CM11 will see these updates hit as part of out of band fixes this weekend (these releases occur weekly).

    CVE-2015-1538
    CVE-2015-1539
    CVE-2015-3824
    CVE-2015-3826
    CVE-2015-3827
    CVE-2015-3828
    CVE-2015-3829

    We are actively following all the DefCon events and announcements and will be keeping tabs on other disclosures that could impact CM and its derivatives.

    ï

  28. Using a MMS by Nikademus · · Score: 1

    Seriously, do people really use MMS? Just disable MMS (if have enabled it) and you are safe as it seems.
    What is the purpose of MMS? Paying 100x more to send the same contents which could be sent using an email?

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    1. Re:Using a MMS by jbmartin6 · · Score: 2

      Actually you could just disable auto-fetching of media within MMS to work around the problem.

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  29. Why is the platform not OTA-upgradeable? by thisisauniqueid · · Score: 1

    The set of hardware capabilities available on a smartphone has more or less stabilized on phones these days. Which means that the kernel API to the hardware could be frozen. Which means that everything above the kernel level could be OTA-upgraded (to stock, at least -- carrier customizations should be installed as an app and/or theme on top of the stock firmware anyway). Why in 2015 is the entire platform not hot-upgradeable? The inability to do so is just plain stupidity. (Memory limits / CPU speed etc. don't count -- in Android K and L, a lot of work was done to reduce the memory footprint and increase the VM speed... you only need half a gig of RAM to run Android L.)

  30. Wrong title by qaz123 · · Score: 1

    It's not a Text message (SMS). It's an MMS message. Different technology

  31. Try proofreading next time? by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2

    "According to security firm Zimperium a flaw called "Stagefright" in Google's Android operating system"

    Um, the flaw isn't called stagefright - the flaw is in a component called stagefright!

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  32. Re:..all versions of Android after and including 2 by caseih · · Score: 2

    What are you talking about? What does being in Canada have to do with it? I have rooted, unlocked, and installed CM on several devices including my Virgin Mobile Galaxy S1 and a Kudo Galaxy S2. And all the carriers here allow you to bring your own device if you wish. I brought my unlocked S2 to Telus.

  33. Rooting is under-rated by emil · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When the critical Samsung keyboard exploit hit the news, I was able to do this (and you were not):

    mount -o remount,rw /system
    cd /system/app
    mv SamsungIME.apk SamsungIME.banished
    scp cyanogen:/tmp/LatinIME.apk .
    cd
    mount -o remount,ro /system
    reboot

    I have no intention of relinquishing my ability to repair this vendor-inflicted brain damage because of your foolish misconceptions.

  34. Blame the users: here's why by Sloppy · · Score: 2

    As usual, I prefer to blame the victims (us).

    On a desktop personal computer, it would never occur to you to think "Oh, I just assume I'll get software maintenance from my ISP," and if anyone ever actually said that then you would point your finger at them and laugh and their over-the-top stupidity.

    But change the form factor of the personal computer to handheld and suddenly we don't do the pointing and laughing. On the very face of it, it's JUST AS STUPID. So WTF?

    Users are not exercising their common sense. They simply aren't. You can make excuses for not using common sense and explain why we did this very obviously stupid thing, but don't pretend it's not happening. Every morning you're getting up and putting a "kick me" sign on your back. You know that you're doing it and you know what consequences will invariably flow from it.

    "I don't have any other signs to put on my back! All the signs on the market say 'kick me!'"

    "Just because I wear a 'kick me' sign that doesn't mean anyone really has license to kick me! They shouldn't be doing that to me!"

    Ok, go on and say those things. You even have some valid points, and the things you're saying might even be technically correct. But that doesn't mean you don't sound stupid, because you don't have not getting kicked in your requirements! WTF, people?!

    Stop thinking of handhelds as some weird special case where ALL your experiences with software maintenance magically don't apply! THAT'S STUPID! So yeah, I'm a victim-blamer. You know when you buy your PC from your ISP or from a manufacturer who has a history of preventing maintenance, what's going to happen. And when people pretend they don't know the invariable consequences of buying PCs from ISPs, the stupidity takes on a flavor of dishonesty. Mmmm, yum!

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  35. Re:..all versions of Android after and including 2 by travisco_nabisco · · Score: 1

    A voice of reason.

    Similar setup here, my wife just switched to Fido after unlocking her HTC One. The plan is $15 cheaper if you bring your own device.

  36. Re:..all versions of Android after and including 2 by farble1670 · · Score: 1

    If at first you don't succeed, fucking blame someone else.

    Stop it, you are embarrassing yourself.

    You read the part where Google patched AOSP in 48 hours right? WTF do you want them to do? They don't have the ability push updates to phones issued by Verizon et al., let alone some oddball carrier in Thailand.