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A Computer Umpires Its First Pro Baseball Game

An anonymous reader writes: Baseball has long been regarded as a "game of inches." Among the major professional sports it arguably requires the greatest amount of precision — a few extra RPMs can turn a decent curveball into an unhittable one, and a single degree's difference in the arc of a bat swing can change a lazy popup into a home run. As sensor technology has improved, it's been odd to see how pro baseball leagues have made great efforts to keep it away from the sport. Even if you aren't a fan of the game, you're probably familiar with the cultural meme of an umpire blowing a key call and altering the course of the game.

Thus, it's significant that for the first time ever, sensors and a computer have called balls and strikes for a professional game. In a minor league game between the San Rafael Pacifics and the Vallejo Admirals, a three-camera system tracked the baseball's exact position as it crossed home plate, and a computer judged whether it was in the strike zone or not. The game went without incident, and it provided valuable data in a real-life example. The pitch-tracking system still has bugs to work out, though. Dan Brooks, founder of a site that tracks ball/strike accuracy for real umpires, said that for the new system to be implemented permanently, fans must be "willing to accept a much smaller amount of inexplicable error in exchange for a larger amount of explicable error."

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  1. Ball tracking is not new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ball tracking tech has been used by cricket umpires for years.

    Although its still a human making the decision, the computer shows where the ball was, and would have gone.

    1. Re:Ball tracking is not new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, they should talk to Hawkeye who make the cricket system - and the tennis one onw, I believe. Snicko for baseball, anyone?

    2. Re:Ball tracking is not new by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 3, Informative

      Ditto tennis, where most people find it adds to the enjoyment.

      The only tech that assists with calls on a regular basis is (I believe) the one that tells the umpire if the ball nicked the net on a serve, which has been in place for decades. However, players are allowed to challenge other calls (or lack of call), in which case the decision is turned over to the computers, which display an animated view of the ball's trajectory and it's calculated impact, to much "ooh"ing from the crowd.

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    3. Re:Ball tracking is not new by N1AK · · Score: 5, Informative

      The article didn't suggest ball tracking was new, I'm not sure what led you to believe it did. It was about computers making the decision in professional sport, which afaik is new.

      Cricket is actually a poor comparison as Hawkeye is used to predict where the ball would have gone, whereas in Baseball you're looking at where the ball went and defining whether it passed through the correct window. This should make it a lot less controversial as there's no debate about whether the computers extrapolation is correct or not, like there is with hawkeye in cricket.

    4. Re:Ball tracking is not new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or maybe not: "computer judged whether it was in the strike zone or not"

    5. Re:Ball tracking is not new by known_coward_69 · · Score: 2

      in baseball good catchers can frame pitches. they bring their glove into the strike zone fast enough to make the umpire think it was a strike. technically it's cheating, but everyone has been doing it for the last 3-5 years.

    6. Re:Ball tracking is not new by slaughts · · Score: 4, Informative

      3 to 5 years? I was a catcher in little league in the '70s and was taught how to frame pitches. It's been done as long as there have been umpires calling balls and strikes...

    7. Re:Ball tracking is not new by paiute · · Score: 2

      technically it's cheating, but everyone has been doing it for the last 3-5 years.

      Catchers have been doing this since before there were catcher's mitts. And if there is no rule against it, it is not 'technically' anything, much less cheating.

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    8. Re:Ball tracking is not new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Framing a pitch is catching the ball and turning your wrist inwards as you catch it, creating an illusion. It's not what catchers do in high school, which is catch the ball normally and then quickly move their glove towards the plate. As an umpire, that shit infuriates me and I'm more likely to punish you on corner strikes for insulting my intelligence.

    9. Re:Ball tracking is not new by Smauler · · Score: 1

      Cricket is actually a poor comparison as Hawkeye is used to predict where the ball would have gone

      That's just one thing that hawkeye does in cricket. To be out leg before wicket in cricket, the ball cannot have pitched outside leg stump. Also to be out lbw when playing a shot, the ball must not have hit the batter outside off stump, which is also checked for. Both of these examples check where the ball has been, and decisions are often overturned on these things.

      Also, if the umpire's decision is not out, and the ball is just clipping the stumps (or very close in another area), the umpire's decision is upheld - hawkeye does not overrule the umpire when the decision is close.

    10. Re:Ball tracking is not new by N1AK · · Score: 1

      All true, but not really relevant to my point. The ball would also have had to be on a path to hit the stumps as well, thus any decision to give someone out LBW requires extrapolation of available data. Hawkeye is not used in cricket to automatically decide if a player is out or not, which is what makes this development in baseball novel. One of the reasons it should be easier to establish in baseball is because it doesn't require people to rely on the predictions of a machine (even though the machine probably does a better job of LBW calls than umpires already imo).

  2. ahahaa. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Among the major professional sports it arguably requires the greatest amount of precision"

    Cricket? Darts? Golf? Rally Driving? Stupid yanks.

    1. Re:ahahaa. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Arguably every sport requires the same amount of precision: a little bit more than your opponent. Are the opponents in baseball better than in basketball? Maybe they are not as good in a rare sport.

    2. Re:ahahaa. by NicBenjamin · · Score: 1

      When Americans use that phrase ("Major professional sports") they're invariably talking about a) team sports that b) they actually play. So not cricket.

      And of those sports baseball is clearly on the precision-oriented side. If you screw up a pass attempt in basketball, football, or soccer by a foot or two your team-mate can compensate and still catch the ball. Scoring in football and soccer you can generally be as much as a foot off where you were aiming and still make it. Basketball is tricker, because the ball is precisely 6.5" smaller then the hoop in radius, so if it's 3" off-center you still get a swish by a good quarter-inch. Ice Hockey is harder to add to the group because the stick means your pass can be off by even more and still get to your team-mate, but it also means that if you miss the puck by 3 inches the puck is going anywhere but where you wanted. The goalies really add to the precision requirement because they can take up such a huge proportion of space in the goal if they're doing positional play properly.

      OTOH, the difference between a strike and a home run is three inches of vertical space on the bat, the difference between a fly-out and a home-run is a truly trivial difference in the angle the bat strikes the ball, the Strike Zone is only 17 inches wide so a pitcher whose consistently three inches off from where he wants to be either has to throw right into the very hittable center of the strike zone or give up a lot of balls, etc.

      Thus the phrase "Among the major professional sports it arguably requires the greatest amount of precision" is by definition true if one is speaking American English.

  3. They don't need a computer.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They need Frank Drebin.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWY9S-uKU-4

    1. Re:They don't need a computer.. by nbvb · · Score: 2

      Hey! It's Enrico Palazzo!

    2. Re:They don't need a computer.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...and the rockets' red glare... bunch'a bombs in the air... gave proof through the night that we still had a flag..."

      Best. Lyrics. Ever.

  4. Not new to professional baseball by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The use of a computerized system to call balls and strikes is not new to professional baseball. Major league baseball has used a system called QuesTec to automatically determine whether a pitch is a ball or a strike. MLB used the data to evaluate the performance of umpires and try to standardize the strike zone so that all umpires call it according to what's in the rule book. In practice, this generally meant a narrower but a taller strike zone, including calling the low strike at the knees and the high strike at the letters. Another system called PITCHf/x is installed in all 30 MLB parks and automatically classifies the type of pitch and tracks its trajectory, recording both velocity and movement. This data can show which pitches were balls and strikes, the type of pitch thrown, the velocity, and the amount of horizontal and vertical break on the pitch. These data are readily available on sites like Fangraphs. Furthermore, the K Zone and FoxTrax have been regular parts of the ESPN and Fox MLB telecasts, respectively, for many years and show the trajectory of the ball as it's pitched and whether it's a ball or a strike. The technology isn't new at all to professional baseball. The only thing that's actually new is using the data in real time to umpire a game as opposed to evaluating umpires after games, collecting data sets for scouting and statistical analysis, or entertainment purposes in TV broadcasts and tracking games live online.

    1. Re:Not new to professional baseball by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

      Somebody can't read. It's the first time a computer called a game. That's the point. We have the technology and should be using it, not leaving it up to umps that have widely varying strike zones.

    2. Re:Not new to professional baseball by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You didn't actually read his post, he says this.

      Eh, baseball needs more human error, it's really boring without it, IMO.

    3. Re:Not new to professional baseball by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I acknowledged in my post that it's the first time that an automated system has been used as an actual umpire. That said, this won't make controversy over umpiring go away. There are calibration issues with Pitchf/x and the setups are different from one park to another, so it's not totally standardized across baseball. I mentioned QuesTec, an earlier system, that has been controversial. In part, that's because the system also requires a human operator because the strike zone actually does vary from one hitter to another. That depends on the height of the hitter. The QuesTec system uses a human operator, and that led to questions about the accuracy of the system in determining balls and strikes. There's also a margin of error, though it's pretty small. I'm not certain of the error for Pitchf/x, but FoxTrax has an error of slightly less than an inch. It's small, but it's there, and that means there will still be arguments over borderline calls. The umpires' union responded negatively to QuesTec and I suspect they will be even more opposed to Pitchf/x being used to umpire games out of fear that umpires will lose their jobs. Let's not kid ourselves; Pitchf/x is great, but it won't make controversy go away. And MLB has cracked down in widely varying strike zones already through the use of QuesTec and has made big improvements since the introduction of the system.

    4. Re:Not new to professional baseball by boristdog · · Score: 1

      Also, it's fun to yell at the umpire, especially after a few beers.
      I've heard some really creative insults directed at umpires.

  5. The real benefit to this system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The MLB rule book expressly prohibits arguing balls and strikes, partly because it's so hard for the home plate umpire to make those calls. For the most part, MLB umpires do a really good job of getting calls right. It's really hard to determine accurately whether the ball crossed within a certain rectangle at any point as it crosses home plate. The strike zone is a three dimensional construct that varies from one hitter to another depending on their height. There's nothing easy about what the umpires are asked to do. For the most part, MLB players tolerate a strike zone that's not perfect provided it's not unreasonably large or small and that it's consistent for both teams throughout the game. That said, it's not perfect, and there are situations where this really could make a difference.

    Yadier Molina is one of the best catchers in baseball, known primarily for his defense, especially picking runners off base, and for being a good hitter as catchers go. He also does a good job of calling the game for his pitcher, that is what pitch he asks the pitcher to throw, and where he sets up and tries to get the pitcher to locate the pitch. He's probably the best catcher in MLB right now at this. But he's also really good at fooling the umpire in what's known as framing the pitch. That is, how he moves the glove after catching the baseball can fool the home plate umpire into calling borderline balls as strikes and effectively expanding the strike zone for his pitchers. Long considered a myth, there's actually real evidence now with new data that shows catchers like Molina can have large impacts on a game by framing pitches. Not directly related to Molina, but a similar issue, is when a pitcher badly misses the catcher's target, but the pitch is still a strike. An example would be the catcher setting up on the outside corner but the actual pitch being on the insider corner. The pitch may well be a strike, but because the pitcher missed the target so badly, it will almost always be called a ball.

    Greg Maddux was a really great pitcher who was successful in fooling hitters and getting a lot of strikeouts with a fastball around 90 mph. He's a Hall of Fame pitcher and deservedly so. He fooled hitters for about two decades and his stats in the shortened seasons of 1994 and 1995 rank among the very best stats for a season in the history of baseball, right up with Bob Gibson's 1968 season and Pedro Martinez's ridiculously good 2000 season. However, in addition to pinpoint control of his pitches and good movement, he also seemed to get a lot of pitches called strikes that were off the plate. That is, he got some strikes "on the corner" that were really about six inches off the plate. His teammate and fellow Hall of Fame pitcher Tom Glavine, was also frequently associated with getting a wide strike zone.

    While the umpires generally do a really good job, I can see ways where this really can help standardize the strike zone and solve some problems. I don't think this will ever replace human umpires altogether, but it frees them up to focus on other things like managing the pace of play (a huge problem for baseball), looking for balks, and determining whether a hitter went around on a checked swing. And I suspect that in college and lower levels of baseball, human umpires will always call balls and strikes.

    1. Re:The real benefit to this system by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The thing is, I'm not so sure that I, as a fan, want to see the human element removed. Expanding the strike zone is a skill and a part of the sport. It's also a skill when the batsman shrinks or crowds the strike zone. The ability to adjust to a slightly different strike zone every night is also part of it.

      Of course, none of this gets the ump out from behind the plate. There's still the swinging strike to consider. I don't know of any machine that can make that call automatically. For that matter, there isn't even an unambiguous rule for what counts as a swing, so there would have to be a rule change to even allow a machine to make the call unofficially. Even if that is taken over, there's still the foul tip and hit by pitch that the umpire will need to call. Not to mention plays at the plate.

    2. Re:The real benefit to this system by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 0

      Oh bull fucking shit. Most fans would love to see the ump removed. We don't want to see a changing strike zone. We want a consistent strike zone! Sounds like a troll for the umpires union.

    3. Re:The real benefit to this system by njnnja · · Score: 1

      This. If baseball wanted to have a set strike zone, they would have invented some kind of moveable net like device like a goal. But the human element is a big part of the sport. There is an aesthetic quality that is essential in most sports that defies simple mechanization, and in baseball, that is the strike zone. In basketball, it is the little travel before a nice dunk, and in soccer, it is the amount of stoppage time. If every travel was rigidly called, or if a soccer game stopped at exactly the correct time, even in the middle of good possession, these sports would be worse off.

    4. Re:The real benefit to this system by sjames · · Score: 1

      You might be surprised how much more you enjoy the game if you learn more about the subtitles of it.

      Meanwhile, there's something to be said for the ability of kids on a sandlot to play a fully regulation game, or at least feel that they did.

      Finally, don't underestimate how much some fans enjoy booing the ump.

    5. Re:The real benefit to this system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MLB actually has tried to standardize the strike zone. They did this with QuesTec, a system not unlike Pitchf/x (the system described in the article). It basically involves a person entering in information about the height of the player to determine the vertical extent of the strike zone, and then tracking pitches with cameras. MLB reviewed the umpires' calls after games and compared them to the QuesTec data. They would then send the umpires what was basically a report card telling evaluating their performance in calling balls and strikes. The umpires and their union didn't like this. That said, MLB actually does want a set strike zone, and they've done quite a bit to try to make the strike zone taller and reduce called strikes for pitches that aren't actually on the corners.

    6. Re:The real benefit to this system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If a soccer game stopped at exactly the correct time, even in the middle of good possession, these sports would be worse off? Huh?

      I guess you don't follow Hockey where the game clock ends EXACTLY at 0:00. If a puck goes in a 1/2 second too late, that's the breaks, and makes the game exciting. American Football is similar. If you run the ball to the 1 yard line with 5 seconds left and no timeouts, tick, tick, tick, the clock ticks down and you might not get another play off. It makes these games exciting, where there is no definitive 'last second shot' in soccer - the ending is ambiguous, which Americans dislike.

    7. Re: The real benefit to this system by jmac_the_man · · Score: 1

      if a soccer game stopped at exactly the correct time, even in the middle of good possession, these sports would be worse off.

      I'm not really a soccer fan, but I know that a regulation soccer game is 90 minutes, plus "extra time." The amount of "extra time" is set at the referee's discretion. I thought the referee had to announce the amount of extra time that would be played at the 89 minute mark, and then when that timer is up, the game ends, even in the middle of an exciting possession.

    8. Re:The real benefit to this system by sjames · · Score: 1

      Except the player's actual height is irrelevant. The strike zone is measured as the batsman stands awaiting the pitch (that is, hunched up somewhat with knees bent).

      The process did tighten up the strike zone sufficiently and it worked because it kept the umpire in charge with the machine simply providing feedback.

    9. Re: The real benefit to this system by njnnja · · Score: 1

      In theory, yes, the ref announces, say, "3 minutes", and the game is supposed to end in 3 minutes, but that is just an approximation. It is generally understood that if the "real" stoppage time was 3 minutes, 10 seconds, but one team is in the middle of an attack at 3 minutes, 9 seconds, the ref will let the series play out before blowing the whistle.

      The evidence is the disproportionately large number of games with a game winning goal in stoppage time, which end a second or two after the ball is inbounded again. And the infrequency (like, never) of a theoretical "buzzer beater" that was kicked before the whistle blows and then disallowed because the ref blew the whistle ending the game while the ball was in-flight.

    10. Re:The real benefit to this system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't need closed captioning to enjoy the game.

    11. Re:The real benefit to this system by sjames · · Score: 1

      Damned spell checker...

    12. Re:The real benefit to this system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DAMNIT you beat me to it.

    13. Re:The real benefit to this system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The strike zone extends from the knees to the midpoint of the torso (the letters) in a player's normal batting stance. However, the actual location and height of the zone depends on the normal batting stance and the height of the player. The rule book allows the umpire to use judgment about what the strike zone should be if the player isn't using a normal batting stance. And it's up to a human operator to input that information so the computer can determine what's a strike and what isn't.

  6. Re:The Minors Ain't Pro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Actually, the quality of play in the WNBA is quite good and the ladies are every bit as professional as the men playing in the NBA. As for the minors, they're definitely professional. I suggest you educate yourself on the concept of a farm system, developed by Branch Rickey as a way for MLB teams to develop players under their control before bringing them to the majors.

  7. Explains everything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "willing to accept a much smaller amount of inexplicable error in exchange for a larger amount of explicable error."

    That literally explains everything I know about technology. Except for programming, where it's the complete opposite.

  8. Kicking dirt by tomhath · · Score: 1

    Will the computer be behind the plate so a PO'd manager can run out and kick dirt on it? Fans love to see conflict, it's part of the game.

    1. Re:Kicking dirt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No, but the St. Louis Cardinals are going to hack the computer real-time to win baseball games.

  9. The joys of baseball by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The problem I have with this approach is the human element with its possible mistakes is what gives baseball a lot of its soul. First instant replay, now this? I'm all for progress and technology, but from where I sit on the couch and in the bleachers this is solving a set of problems that doesn't exist.

    1. Re:The joys of baseball by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure I agree that the human element is really what matters. The real problem as I see it is that instant replay sucks because it takes too long. Baseball has a slow pace already, and instant replay brings the game to a halt. I agree with getting the call right, it just needs to be done faster. I just don't think it's a good thing for baseball that two really good umpires, Don Denkinger and Jim Joyce, will forever be known for blown calls at the worst possible time.

    2. Re:The joys of baseball by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 0

      Troll for the umpires I see. This is a problem. EVERY baseball fan would tell you this, especially in the post season where it matters. This is the one area where technology makes the most sense because there's no room for human interpretation - you know Dez Bryant's catch/no catch in the playoff game against the Packers. Instant replay shows him catch the ball. Refs saw the replace and ruled he didn't. A computer calling a strike zone takes the guess work because it would consistently call the strike through 9 innings, for every pitcher. Even if the strike zone was off, as along is it was off the same amount for every pitch, it would be accurate. As it stands the ump's strike zone changes from inning to inning and pitcher to pitcher. Greg Maddox had a wicked wide strike zone. Others, not so much.

    3. Re:The joys of baseball by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

      i've watched enough Mets games where the umps have to be betting on the game. they call strikes on the Metsies but same pitch is a ball when the opposing team is batting

    4. Re:The joys of baseball by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who the fuck elected you to speak for EVERY baseball fan?

    5. Re:The joys of baseball by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Troll for the umpires I see. This is a problem. EVERY baseball fan would tell you this, especially in the post season where it matters. This is the one area where technology makes the most sense because there's no room for human interpretation - you know Dez Bryant's catch/no catch in the playoff game against the Packers. Instant replay shows him catch the ball. Refs saw the replace and ruled he didn't. A computer calling a strike zone takes the guess work because it would consistently call the strike through 9 innings, for every pitcher. Even if the strike zone was off, as along is it was off the same amount for every pitch, it would be accurate. As it stands the ump's strike zone changes from inning to inning and pitcher to pitcher. Greg Maddox had a wicked wide strike zone. Others, not so much.

      Dez Bryant 'caught' the ball according to what people THINK a catch is, but not according to the football rules. The play was called correctly by the referee who looked at the replay. The refs weren't wrong but the rules might be.

      When a player going to the ground makes a catch, which Dez Bryant was, he needs to maintain control and KEEP THE BALL after hitting the ground. Dez caught the ball, yes, but while going to the ground he moved the ball around (yes - in a move trying to place the ball over the goal line to score), but STILL, he must maintain possession when he and the ball hits the ground. Right as he hits the ground, the ball comes loose. Therefore, no catch, incomplete.

  10. Also means catchers no longer influence the calls by schwit1 · · Score: 1

    Today's better catchers have learned to influence calls by framing pitches or quickly moving the mitt back into the strike zone. No more. Next they need a pitch clock if there's no one on base.

  11. Re:The Minors Ain't Pro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They suck. It's not easy finding girls to play basketball for a few thousand dollars a year. They could walk the street for a week and make more. A lot more. True as you.

  12. It will be great TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just can't wait to see the first melee involving a computer umpire.

  13. Re:Also means catchers no longer influence the cal by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

    Next they need a pitch clock if there's no one on base.

    No, they just need to change the rules so we don't have 45-minute 8th innings because the leading team brings out a new pitcher for each batter.

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  14. How long? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Before Musk, Hawkings, Gates, Woz, Stallman, and other "Super Smart Genius Men" rally together to stop this evil war mongering technology by signing a piece of paper stating that we should ban AI before it becomes our overlords!

  15. OK with me by bigdavex · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I view myself as generally a baseball traditionalist. I hate the designated hitter rule. I mourned the addition of lights to Wrigley Field. I view replay review with suspicion.

    Automatic balls & strikes seems like a good idea to me.

    One of the side effects of replay is that the MLB has become much more civil. Instead of losing their shit, MLB managers calmly wait for the replay review.

    For whatever reason, baseball had been unusually tolerant (compared to other sports) of long arguments from players and managers. This trickles down to the way people behave at amateur baseball games. So I'm hopeful that replay will eventually change the expectation for behavior in amateur games without replay. And following behind, automatic balls and strikes will do the same.

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    1. Re: OK with me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uncivil baseball is at least entertaining.

      And besides, you never really know what you're going to get. MLB's replay regime seemed like a good idea at the time- I remember a certain mid-80's blown call in a game 6- but I have come to loathe it. All I wanted was 'obviously wrong' calls corrected, and now I have to sit and look at the sky for three or four minutes every time somebody with a television somewhere says the manager should challenge the call.

      I'm just not sure I understand how if the players involved in the play and the manager and coaches sitting in the dugout aren't confident enough in the outcome to decide to challenge without the input of someone already watching the video replay that this can improve the game.

    2. Re: OK with me by bigdavex · · Score: 1

      I agree that replay could use some tweaks. The clock in football constrains stalling before the challenge. I'm not sure how to implement that pressure in baseball, which traditionally allows an indefinite number of time outs.

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    3. Re:OK with me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You wrote, "I mourned the addition of lights to Wrigley Field." Sorry to tell you, but you all but admitted to being a Cubs fan and loose all credibility when making that admission.

      You need to turn in the low Slashdot number and take one significantly higher as a penalty.

    4. Re: OK with me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Start calling strikes, balls or outs as appropriate to move the game along.

    5. Re:OK with me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A Cubs fan with a low user number? Sounds like the pinnacle of credibility to me - an old person who has spent his whole life building character by being disappointed yearly. That is, unless he's more than 110 years old.

  16. Curveball in the dirt by bigdavex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's an interesting oddity to the way umpires are currently graded with pitch F/X. Pitches that cross the front of the plate at the batter's knees but then drop before reaching the catcher are strikes by the definition in the rulebook. Those pitches don't look like strikes to the casual observer, so umpires stopped calling them strikes, basically so they don't get yelled at. Batters know this and generally position themselves at the extreme back of the batter's box to give themselves the most time to react to a fastball.

    The automatic system currently grades umpires with the standard that balls and strikes have traditionally been called, NOT with a strict adherence to the actual rulebook zone. So when the MLB implements the automatic balls & strikes, will it be the actual strike zone or the traditional zone? Robot umpires don't care when people yell at them. If it's the actual rulebook zone, pitches that bounce before the catcher will be called strikes. Batters will have to adjust by moving up in the box to hit that low curve ball.

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  17. "Game of inches"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    [American] football is a "game of inches", right?

  18. Ender's Game? by Immerial · · Score: 1

    I'm trying to remember which book it was (maybe it was Ender's Game?). Where the computer sometimes intentionally makes a ruling error in the game between the contestants. It was added to make the game more human/exciting/unpredictable. In the case of the story, it resulted in a win for the protagonist.

  19. Re:The Minors Ain't Pro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    um, okay. there have been literally three WNBA players to ever dunk. a total of five dunks EVER in the WNBA (including all-star games). every single NBA player can dunk. there are boys' basketball players in high school who can dunk. if by "professional" you mean, shows up to work on time, okay, but the level of play is nowhere near men's level.

  20. Re: The Minors Ain't Pro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You only watch for the dunks? I'm not a huge fan but seems there is more to the game than being tall.

  21. Meme? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not quite sure I call: "...an umpire blowing a key call and altering the course of the game." a meme.

  22. I don't know if all fans will accept it by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

    I bet half the fans will accept a much smaller amount of inexplicable error, and half will demand a smaller amount of explicable error. They may go so far as to pick colors to help identify their preferred choice, and possibly even associate an animal or ethnicity with their selection.

  23. Re:Baseball - pah!! by davester666 · · Score: 1

    Are you kidding me? The only parts of baseball that take several minutes are:

    1) waiting for everyone to get ready for the next pitch. Because the batter just has to step out of the batters box, adjust his balls, rub his nipples, hitch up his shirt, work on rubbing out the lines showing where the batters box is, and then practice swinging the bat. Every single pitch.
    2) when the teams switch from hitting to fielding
    3) manager and/or player arguing over the last call from the umpire before being thrown out. For many games, this is the most exciting thing that will happen for the whole game.
    4) the seventh inning stretch. Normally, the second most exciting thing that will happen for the whole game.

    It you watch a daily sports news broadcast, they show all the exciting plays from all the games played that day. Normally, there are maybe half as many good plays in total as there are games played that day. And most of those are of guys getting thrown out at first.

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