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Buzz Aldrin Publishes Moon Expenses Form

An anonymous reader writes: Proving once again that the government has a form for everything, Buzz Aldrin has unveiled his Apollo 11 documentation on social media over the past few days, including a travel voucher detailing his expenses on his trip to the moon. The papers listed him as having been on a "work trip" from his home in Houston, Texas that had taken him to the moon and then back again with a total expenses claim of just $33.31. The report notes : "Government meals and quarters [were] furnished for all of the above dates."

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  1. In 2015 dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
    Comes to $216.59 in 2015 dollars.

  2. Wait by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    Shouldn't he still get to claim per diem?

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    1. Re: Wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's not how reimbursement works.

    2. Re: Wait by perryizgr8 · · Score: 1

      Billionaire.

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  3. Re:The $33.31 was for the hookers by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    You gotta give them some incentive. It was a really risky trip.

    "Houston, the lunar take-off rockets failed to fire, and the fuel is leaking fast. Uh, we'd like about an hour of privacy, please...".

  4. Re:I'm not fooled by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    You need a private count-down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  5. Re:I'm not fooled by Lagmo · · Score: 1

    Now please excuse me while I go make my new tinfoil hat.

    Don't forget to put it on your expense form, I'm sure NASA will reimburse you the $0.30 as a matter of course.

  6. Tedious "lol government" editorializing by radarskiy · · Score: 5, Funny

    "the government has a form for everything"

    As if there wouldn't otherwise be people screaming about how Buzz Aldrin did not account for how he spent out tax money and is therefore a theif.

    As if private corporations do not require expense reports. (My favorite case of this was returning from business trips to South East Asia. I would land in Hong Kong about 10am, have some lunch, leave on a 2pm flight, land at LAX at 10 am, have some lunch, leave on a 2pm flight. My expense report would make people freak out because I listed 2 lunches for the same calendar day. It took a couple of tries before someone told me to enter one as breakfast.)

    1. Re: Tedious "lol government" editorializing by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      I'm old enough to remember on Slashdot when people were automatically knee-jerk anti government. Until January 20, 2009, it was.

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    2. Re:Tedious "lol government" editorializing by Kjella · · Score: 1

      My expense report would make people freak out because I listed 2 lunches for the same calendar day. It took a couple of tries before someone told me to enter one as breakfast

      Here in Norway that would probably be for tax reasons. Since excessive wining and dining could be considered a fringe benefit, there are regulations for how much you can charge the company per day tax free. Those limits are adjusted relative to the number of what meals you've had and if any have been provided for you (breakfast, lunch and dinner is singled out) like part of the trip like on a conference. Some give those as part of the trip, you choose how much to eat for and how much to pocket. Eating a double lunch and no breakfast probably triggered some silly rule of gaming the system either in the company regulations or tax regulations.

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    3. Re: Tedious "lol government" editorializing by plasm4 · · Score: 1

      Freedom was already dead. That was just the funeral.

    4. Re:Tedious "lol government" editorializing by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      Here in the state of Pennsylvania our Governor has said no state employee may accept anything from anyone. Not even a pen at a conference.

      If you attend some meeting where lunch is served you either have to forgo eating or obtain a receipt for the cost of the meal and reimburse the presenter. Even if there are only cookies and water, you have to get a receipt.

      It's his effort to promote transparency in government but his edict has caused issues with people who are required to attend conferences as part of their professional development.

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    5. Re:Tedious "lol government" editorializing by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      "As if private corporations do not require expense reports. "

      I have to file expense reports too, and it's my company. Buchhaltern über alles

    6. Re:Tedious "lol government" editorializing by bkr1_2k · · Score: 1

      It hasn't caused "issues", it's caused paperwork. There's a difference. Every government employee I know has to do this for any kind of meals provided. Any gifts over $10, I think, also have to be accounted for in paperwork. It's a hassle but not an "issue".

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  7. Re:I'm not fooled by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    What that vid portion doesn't show is that the guy followed Buzz around and constantly harassed him for a while, sticking a Bible in Buzz's face.

  8. Some of these items look suspicious: by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Funny

    * Chewing gum
    * Accordion
    * Shoe-horn
    * Pizza cutter
    * 75 watt light bulb
    * Dried armadillo
    * Bicycle peddle
    * Original painting of a bulldozer
    * Rodent repellant
    * 7 bottle caps
    * Pillow feathers
    * Rubber mallet
    * Dog bone
    * Green paint, exterior
    * Detour sign
    * Broken canoe paddle
    * Decorative beads
    * Baby pacifier
    * Petunia seeds
    * Empty ice tray
    * Batman mask
    * 3 human teeth
    * Toothpick sculpture of a 3-legged donkey
    * Drained snow-globe

    As a hard-working tax-payer, I demand answers.
       

    1. Re:Some of these items look suspicious: by The-Ixian · · Score: 1

      Original painting of a bulldozer

      My kingdom for some mod points.... this is comedy gold!

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    2. Re:Some of these items look suspicious: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And others not so suspicious:

      The chewing gum is essential. You never know when you might need to plug a leak, and sometimes you just can't get in there with duct tape.

      The detour sign was because everyone thought the Soviets were still in the space race. The plan was to deploy the sign en route to the Moon, so the Soviet vehicle would take a longer track.

      The broken canoe paddle was in case they found themselves up Shit Creek. Broken (actually, sawed down) so it would fit in the spacecraft.

      I'm sure given a little more time I can come up with perfectly rational justifications for the rest of those items. ;-)

    3. Re:Some of these items look suspicious: by KatchooNJ · · Score: 3, Funny

      That looks like an inventory list for an Infocom text adventure game. heh

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    4. Re:Some of these items look suspicious: by Mysticeti · · Score: 1

      > Rodent repellant

      Essential! Since the moon is made of cheese you're bound to have a more than a few mice running around.

    5. Re:Some of these items look suspicious: by ihtoit · · Score: 1

      mice don't generally like cheese. They prefer dark chocolate.

      (source: have had to deal with a neighbourhood invasion of the little fuckers. Ended up getting a cat since I was fed up of resetting forty traps six times a day and incinerating over a thousand little brown bodies a week).

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    6. Re:Some of these items look suspicious: by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Fork English, it's ilojical and suks!

  9. Re: I'm not fooled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    There are no 'people above the law'. There are people who abuse the law, because they are tolerated, and this is wrong.

  10. Re:I'm not fooled by bledri · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What the video shows is an assault, which is still a crime. If I punch you in the face, regardless of the reasons, I'll end up in jail. Was the hooligan in the video charged? Nope, because he's 'famous', so the prosecutors came up with an excuse, which they won't grant you. And you lap it up, because you're from the Republic that loves royalty.

    You don't know what you are talking about. The law and the police recognize that people can be provoked into throwing a punch. Laws frequently contain clauses about "Fighting Words" and/or stipulations for considering who a "reasonable person" would react in a situation. If you watch the whole video, you will see Aldrin spend minutes trying to get away from Sibrel who continues to chase him, block his path, shove a bible in his face and accuse Aldrin of being a "a coward, and a liar, and a thief." No one would be charged for throwing a punch after all that harassment. Not even you, Mr. AC.

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  11. Re:I'm not fooled by spiritplumber · · Score: 4, Informative

    Buzz Aldrin was duly charged. The proceedings essentially lasted as long as the video, since it's obvious that he was provoked.

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  12. Re:I'm not fooled by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Funny

    Depending on where you live the law usually makes room for justifiable assault, even justifiable homicide but the bar for "justifiable" is set usually quite high.

    Anecdotal example: My brother-in-law arrived at the scene of an accident near his home, a car full of young guys had run a red light and t-boned his wife's car, fortunately nobody was hurt and the incident was caught on a red light camera. He approached the cop who was talking to the other driver and then without any warning 'king-hit' the other driver square in the face. The young man fell on his arse and started bleeding. Apparently he had been telling the cop how the "stupid old slut" in the other car had caused the accident. The cop's response was brilliant, he said something like - "I heard what he said, but you can't do that in front of me. Again".

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  13. I guess he was lucky. by Ihlosi · · Score: 1

    The government didn't charge him for the view.

  14. Re: There is really a form for everything. by chill · · Score: 1

    How else do you think they got all those Jerry Lewis movies in past customs?

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  15. "Madam, we ate them" by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    David Attenborough tells a wonderful story about his early days at the BBC. He had bought two pack horses on location for 30 shillings because he could not find a guide who had enough of their own horses to service the crew. When he was done with the horses he gave them away (to the guide I assume). Back in London he got a call from the BBC accounting office querying the two horses on his expense claim. The accountant was demanding to know where the horses were located because they were now "BBC property" and would appear as such in an audit. Attenborough responded with "Madam, we ate them", which as it turned out were the magic accounting words that turn an asset into a consumable.

    The moral of the story is; if you are ever on safari and need to claim some pack mules, either bring them back with you or describe them as "breakfast" on the expense claim..

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    1. Re:"Madam, we ate them" by jfengel · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Hey, Attenborough, how hungry were you?"

      "Well, I was so hungry..."

    2. Re:"Madam, we ate them" by imidan · · Score: 1

      The moral of the story is; if you are ever on safari and need to claim some pack mules, either bring them back with you or describe them as "breakfast" on the expense claim..

      See, that would just get me in trouble. My office won't pay for meals, only for per diem, so then I'd be out the cost of the mules, unless they cost less than an out-of-state breakfast allowance (somewhere around $12.00, I think)--and then I'd be out of pocket for the cost of my actual breakfast that day, unless I did in fact eat the mules!

      I think I'd be better off describing the mules as 'rental transportation' and then filing a 'lost receipt memo' so the bean counters couldn't see that I'd actually bought them.

  16. Re:Next moon landing? by asylumx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because it's expensive and dangerous for little gain. There's been plenty of science to be done closer to earth, which is why we built the international space station.

  17. Glad we didn't have to reimburse his mileage! by Gre7g · · Score: 1

    Not sure what the rate was back in 1969, but it would have added up.

  18. Re:The $33.31 was for by AntiSol · · Score: 2
  19. Re:There is really a form for everything. by Talderas · · Score: 1

    File it for everything you import.

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  20. Navy flight records for Space Shuttle by jfdavis668 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I used to work on the system which keep track of Navy flight records. We had to modify it to handle Navy personnel flying on the Space Shuttles. The system only allowed for 99.9 hour flight legs. Since shuttle flights were longer than 100 hours, we had to modify the system to handle them differently if the aircraft was one of the space shuttles. Talk about getting in your flight hours.

    1. Re:Navy flight records for Space Shuttle by ihtoit · · Score: 1

      what about flights to the ISS? Doesn't that count as two flights?

      E.g., launch and insertion, docking. That's one.
      Undocking, reentry and landing, that's two.

      Between docking and undocking, the SOV isn't actually in flight - it's attached to a larger vehicle which for all intents is actually stationary since it requires a pod equipped with an engine docked to it to even perform any sort of major attitude change. Hell, the clue is in the name, the "International Space Station". Ergo, the flight crew is pretty much on an unpowered raft in international waters while lashed to the port anchor.

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  21. Re:Next moon landing? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    Because that would require applying science, and we don't do that any more.

  22. Re:Next moon landing? by pr0fessor · · Score: 5, Funny

    My question is why is he showing the expense form now... did it take that long for them to process it?

  23. Re:Next moon landing? by MagickalMyst · · Score: 1

    I find it very odd that nobody wants to return to the moon.

    I would think that companies such as McDonalds would want the "golden arches" on the moon; or Hilton would have a prestigious moonbase hotel; a giant "iMoon Apple" stating global or universal dominance; an NSA spystation; or Russia or China might want to put their flag up there next to the US flag...

    I know most people say that it is just too expensive but I don't buy it. We waste billions of dollars on uselessness everyday on planet earth. Now people are bidding to be able to go to Mars? Mars! Seriously? What happened to interest in the Lunar celestial body?

    Poppycock, I say.

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  24. Checked the State Department Website by LaurenCates · · Score: 1

    https://aoprals.state.gov/web9...

    No per diem rates for the moon.

    Well, that settles it. If the State Department doesn't have per diem for it, it must mean no travel took place.

    How can you fill out TDY forms if you don't have a per diem rate that you can cash in on, amirite, Govvies on Slashdot?

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    1. Re:Checked the State Department Website by kanweg · · Score: 1

      "No per diem rates for the moon."

      Even if there wee per diem rates, he didn't stay there a complete moon day.

      Bert

    2. Re:Checked the State Department Website by LaurenCates · · Score: 1

      Well, then he should only get 75%.

      Oh, wait...

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  25. Re:Next moon landing? by rwa2 · · Score: 1

    Still cheaper to put a huge golden arches ad in LEO, a hotel in LEO, an Apple iSat in LEO, NSA spy sats in LEO, and Chinese flags in LEO. Still haven't done any of that, except for the military stuff.

    There is no military advantage to doing anything on the moon. The only reason the US went there was because they had already lost the rest of the space race to the Russians. One of the ways to win cold wars is to get your opponent to vastly outspend you on their military until their economy collapses. Fortunately for us, the space program does have positive effects on the economy, compared to stockpiling tons of tanks, carriers, and fighter jets that we never use.

  26. Re:Next moon landing? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    I find it very odd that nobody wants to return to the moon.

    I would think that companies such as McDonalds would want the "golden arches" on the moon; or Hilton would have a prestigious moonbase hotel; a giant "iMoon Apple" stating global or universal dominance; an NSA spystation; or Russia or China might want to put their flag up there next to the US flag...

    Well let the dream team of Apple and McDonalds pay for their own fucking space programme then.

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  27. Re:Next moon landing? by jfengel · · Score: 1

    Russia got out of the moon-race business once it lost. "Yay, we spent billions to come in second" would not have really worked for them. They've specialized in near-earth activities, and it's turned out really well.

    China is still talking about it, and just might. They've landed a probe, have put people in orbit, and are working for real on a space station. They're not in a rush to get to the moon, since they'll need to do more than just plant a flag to make it seem like an achievement to rival America's, but the odds are good that the next feet on the moon will be Chinese.

  28. Would be funny if... by mpthompson · · Score: 1

    He Photoshop'd a few lines in his itinerary indicating a stop over at a secret movie studio at a desert base in Nevada.

  29. Buzz is a cool guy by peter303 · · Score: 1

    He kind of reminds me of Woz and Jobs, where Jobs was intense and Woz was cool. In this case its Neil who was intense and Buzz who is cool.

  30. 30 bucks for road tolls and parking by ihtoit · · Score: 1

    3.31 for a steak sandwich and coffee on the way in?

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  31. Re:Next moon landing? by ihtoit · · Score: 1

    if they'd found oil or gem-quality diamonds or auric nuggets in the Apollo samples, you can sure as shit bet they'd be on Apollo MXCVI by now.

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  32. Re:Next moon landing? by MagickalMyst · · Score: 1

    "...if they'd found oil or gem-quality diamonds or auric nuggets..."

    My point exactly.

    How do we know there is nothing there?

    A few guys allegedly went there decades ago and found nothing but rock and "reflective sand".

    Did the Apollo missions bring any mining equipment to the moon? Has the moon's composition been evaluated using modern technology?

    How do they know for sure that there are no precious minerals, resources, or new, unidentified minerals or substances there?

    And why is the number of Freemasonic astronauts so grossly disproportionate to the non "brotherhood" astronaut roster?

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  33. Re:I'm not fooled by Stickybombs · · Score: 1

    Except that wouldn't be rape. If she is demanding sex at gunpoint, she is raping you, if anything.

  34. Surreal by Event+Horizon · · Score: 1

    (n/t)

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