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Behind the Microsoft Write-Off of Nokia

UnknowingFool writes: Previously Microsoft announced they had written off the Nokia purchase for $7.6B in the last quarter. In doing so, Microsoft would create only the third unprofitable quarter in the company's history. Released on July 31, new financial documents detail some of the reasoning and financials behind this decision. At the core of the problem was that the Phone Hardware business was only worth $116M, after adjusting for costs and market factors. One of those factors was poor sales of Nokia handhelds in 2015. Financially it made more sense to write it all off.

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  1. Microsoft by bobstreo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Where phone companies go to die.

    1. Re:Microsoft by danbob999 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Nokia was dying even before being bought by Microsoft. What killed them is Symbian, and their refusal to switch to Android when it was the time (2008/2009). When they decided to switch to Windows Phone, it was already too late.

    2. Re:Microsoft by invictusvoyd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What killed them is Symbian, and their refusal to switch to Android when it was the time

      It actually was their refusal to open up Symbian at the right time and create a dev community around it . Had that been done, Nokia would have had the opportunity to leverage its dominant market share in the smart phone segment .

    3. Re:Microsoft by Feral+Nerd · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Nokia was dying even before being bought by Microsoft. What killed them is Symbian, and their refusal to switch to Android when it was the time (2008/2009). When they decided to switch to Windows Phone, it was already too late.

      Jolla seems to be doing fine with MeeGo/Sailfish and it runs Android apps... believe it or not there is life beyond Android.

    4. Re:Microsoft by DrXym · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually what killed them was the CEO they hired to fix the company. Elop laid off most of the staff, bet the farm on using a phone OS that nobody wanted, ran the company into the ground and lost so much money that it had to sell the family silver to Microsoft.

    5. Re:Microsoft by Ecuador · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It was more about screwing Symbian developers (incompatible OS versions/ multiple APIs, then sudden abandonment of the platform after there was assurance to devs etc) and also the abandoning the one phone OS that was better than Android & iOS (I am talking about the Maemo/Meego as seen on the N9 of course) in favor of being a "me too" Windows Phone manufacturer, that killed-off Nokia in the end.

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    6. Re:Microsoft by DrXym · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Well they did have a sizable dev community and told it to fuck off when they dropped Symbian for Windows Phone.

      A more sensible company would have moved to Android but kept the devs sweet by providing their handsets with a Symbian / QT framework so that there was a migration path.

    7. Re:Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      And there are those who believe Elop was paid by Microsoft to do exactly that.

    8. Re:Microsoft by DrXym · · Score: 4, Informative
      It's hard to say if he was working to undermine Nokia from the inside, or if he was merely incompetent, or if he was simply out to enrich himself. Or a combination of all three.

      Whatever it was, his tenure was an unmitigated disaster. Not just for Nokia as it turns out but for Microsoft too.

    9. Re:Microsoft by red_dragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      True, Nokia was in trouble well before the WinPho fiasco, but Symbian was just a sympton rather than the disease. Management had allowed the company to branch off into different product lines and encouraged competition between them with apparently little fiscal oversight and paying no attention to the third-party developer community. So, they had S40 engineers working on almost-smartphone handsets to challenge low-end S60/Symbian handsets, S60 engineers trying to widen their product range, and Maemo/MeeGo engineers trying and failing to prove that their otherwise unwanted bastard child was a much better platform. While the managers had their heads firmly esconced in their rectums, Elop took advantage of their indecision and gave them a false sense of hope. Or, maybe not. There's a theory out there that Nokia management knew that they had a shit sandwich on their hands before Elop came along, and sought a way to wipe the slate clean without taking the blame directly if things went wrong. Microsoft and Elop appeared at the right time with an offer that they would happily not refuse: take a large amount of money in exchange for them taking out the trash for you, money that you'll be able to use to restart your phone business from the ground up in a relatively short time frame.

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    10. Re:Microsoft by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nokia was still the dominate cell manufacturer at the time. Microsoft killed off Nokia once Nokia was bought. They didn't ship a new phone for a freakin' year and killed off Symbian and their other product lines. Nokia would have survived it wasn't for Microsoft. Mission accomplished.

    11. Re:Microsoft by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Any significant level of incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

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    12. Re:Microsoft by CockMonster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They bought QT so devs wouldn't have to deal with the pecularities of Symbian.

    13. Re:Microsoft by Anon-Admin · · Score: 4, Informative

      As someone who was stuck using a windows phone for two years. I disagree with your assessment of "It's not that Windows Phone was bad" It was crap!

      The company I worked for decided to buy and use them because

      A) It's windows so it should be easy
      B) They got a great price on them.

      First question from the user is "How do I set my background image?" Which you could not do.

    14. Re:Microsoft by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Symbian EKA2 was a great kernel design for mobile (and still does security and power management better than Linux), but a lot of the Symbian userspace APIs were designed at a time where 1MB of RAM was a lot, 4MB was huge. When 64MB was entry level, they were really showing their age: saving 1MB at the cost of a big increase in developer effort wasn't worth it. Nokia needed to provide a modern API and a clean migration path. They provided neither and they set up groups within the company competing to provide both and actively sabotaging each other. Maemo/Meego is an example of this: Switching from GTK to Qt shortly after launching the product doesn't instil developer confidence.

      Windows Phone actually made sense for Nokia: they needed a software stack that let them differentiate themselves (and no one else seemed to be using WP) and they had managed to set up their corporate structure in such a way that it was impossible for them to develop it themselves. Some of their apps were really nice (their maps app, which was just bought by a consortium of German car makers was a lot better than the Apple or Google offerings, for example).

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    15. Re:Microsoft by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Windows Phone actually made sense for Nokia: they needed a software stack that let them differentiate themselves (and no one else seemed to be using WP)

      There's no point in 'differentiating yourself' by trying to sell something no-one wants to buy. You won't make your new burger store a great success by using turds in your burgers instead of beef, but you'd certainly differentiate yourself by doing so.

    16. Re:Microsoft by Qzukk · · Score: 4, Informative

      According to Wikipedia, Elop was in a "major leadership position" as the head of the Business Division at Microsoft prior to becoming Nokia's CEO, after the acquisition he returned to Microsoft as a VP.

      I can't for the life of me imagine why someone could imagine him as a sucking tendril, deployed from the creeping horror that is Microsoft to latch onto some poor victim, injecting acid into it and dissolving it from within and sucking the guts out of the rapidly dessicating corpse before being withdrawn back into the writhing mass of flesh it calls home. No sirree, can't even fathom it.

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    17. Re:Microsoft by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Windows Phone is pretty nice. It's main drawback is the lack of apps (which is hard to fix, as no one wants to develop for a platform with few users and no one wants to buy a phone with no software). It's main problem selling is that people associate it with Windows on the desktop, which is a usability disaster that somehow manages to get worse each version, in spite of having passed the point where people thought it couldn't get any worse some time ago.

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  2. other market factors to adjust for by nimbius · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Microsofts prior, and arguably present business model of violently entering a market thats been dominated for 3-4 years with an identical product is something of a relic from Steve Ballmer. Its only ever been effective during the browser wars, when microsoft made IE an inextricable part of their OS and every subsequent update or patch forced the default browser to IE conveniently. In the hardware world things like the Zune and the phone were recognizable flops in every market segment but remained a going concern, with significant marketing and advertising to boot. Even the tablet, surface, experiences this as it takes multi million dollar losses every year and enjoys no real marketshare. Why?

    Two things: Perpetual corporate licensing and XBox revenues. These are, arguably, microsofts only source of immediate revenue anymore. the OS is given away with every PC, and things like Azure and the upcoming Windows Watch will have to be priced lower than their competitors. What microsoft has is the real power to sustain a dead-on-arrival product, seemingly indefinitely, off these two revenue streams. Microsofts dated logic is that it doesnt have to make a better product for customers, it just has to outlast competitor offerings until price and marketing somehow win over customers. once the product fails, it simply rolls it under the carpet and chases the next white dragon, dated 3-4 years, and offers a similar product in a desparate attempt to remain relevant in a particular market.

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    1. Re:other market factors to adjust for by debrain · · Score: 3, Informative

      Its only ever been effective during the browser wars

      Lest we forget, the others including:

      - Novell Netware
      - Wordperfect
      - PC/DR DOS & OS / 2

  3. These Big Companies Just Write it Off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Kramer : It's just a write off for them .

    Jerry : How is it a write off ?

    Kramer : They just write it off .

    Jerry : Write it off what ?

    Kramer : Jerry all these big companies they write off everything

    Jerry : You don't even know what a write off is .

    Kramer : Do you ?

    Jerry : No . I don't .

    Kramer : But they do -- and they're the ones writing it off!

  4. Re:As Sen Dirksen said... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's almost as if companies exist to earn as much money as possible

    How on earth does a $7.6 billion loss fit into the narrative of making as much money as possible?

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  5. It worked by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, everything was fine until Microsoft somehow (the article doesn't say) determined that goodwill was worth only $116 million instead of $5.4 billion. That's huge. This is the crucial piece that makes it all "make sense".

    Microsoft bought their rival and destroyed them. It's all done now, Nokia isn't coming back. Microsoft can rest easy now, the threat to Windows Phone has been eliminated. It cost billions, but that's OK. Plenty more where that came from. What's the point of being a huge corporation if you can't do things like this from time to time? It's time to stroke a Persian cat and sip a snifter of brandy. The Company has been saved.

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  6. The Bottom Line by sjbe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The fact that Microsoft not only could write this off, but did write this off shows how little they care about anything but the bottom line.

    Umm, writing this off does not in anyway improve their bottom line. Quite the opposite in fact. It's an admission that they bought something for a lot of money that is now worthless. What it shows is that they are not doing a very good job of maintaining the bottom line because the company is throwing money at bad investments. It's also a strong indicator that management at the time (read Balmer) was of questionable competence.

  7. The solution nobody asked for by sjbe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can't be the only person in the US who purchased said phone, can I?

    No but you aren't in a large crowd. I know I can count the number of Windows Phones I've seen in the wild on my fingers. Windows Phone was pretty much a solution nobody asked for several years later than anyone cared. Android and iOS already were large and dominant and developers weren't really looking to support a third platform. Technically it's probably fine but it offers nothing that people care about that the competition doesn't already have.

    Furthermore Google is basically giving Android away so the handset makers have no incentive to care about Windows. Why would Samsung want to pay Microsoft for a product nobody wants anyway? Microsoft lacks the design culture and brand to compete with Apple on the high end (through vertical integration) and Google is undercutting them on price on the low end. Frankly I think Microsoft is screwed in the mobile phone market. I just don't see a path to profitability for them.

  8. Re:steve ballmer's legacy gets one last sucker pun by houghi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Depending on how you look at it, Elop did a great job.
    1) The comapny was already dead
    2) He managed to get a lot of money for the company

    I would say that that is a great job, unless that was not his (real) jobdescription.

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  9. Re:As Sen Dirksen said... by dcollins · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "When the first U.S. public corporations were created in the early 1800s, corporate charters were granted by the state legislatures for very specific purposes. The charters specified that the corporations met what was considered to be a worthy public purpose and contained strict restrictions, such as the length of time the charter lasted and what, specifically, the corporation could manufacture. In the mid-nineteenth century, it wasn't unheard of for states like Ohio, Michigan, New York and Nebraska to revoke corporate charters when corporations no longer fulfilled their purpose."

    We should return to enforcing and revoking corporate charters when they fail to serve the public interest.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ralph-nader/corporate-charters_b_2759596.html

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  10. Maemo was Good by randallman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I owned a N800 and N900. Maemo was good and would have allowed Nokia to maintain the control and distinctiveness they had with Symbian. With support for Android apps, it was a win-win. They needed united support for Maemo internally, but instead got Elop. Elop decided to throw out Maemo and Sybian and throw everything behind Windows Phone. The rest is history.

    Going Android would have been a bad move also, because they would have no edge over the other Android players. Having their own OS with support for Android apps was a better solution.