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Parts of SOPA Hiding Inside a Boring Case About Invisible Braces
derekmead writes: The most controversial parts of SOPA, an anti-piracy bill defeated in 2012 after a massive public outcry, may end up becoming de facto law after all, depending on the outcome in an obscure case that is working its way through the legal system without anyone noticing.
Next week, the U.S. Appeals Court for the Federal Circuit will hear oral arguments in ClearCorrect Operating, LLC v. International Trade Commission, a case that could give an obscure federal agency the power to force ISPs to block websites. In January, The Verge reported that this very legal strategy is already being considered by the Motion Picture Association of America, as evidenced by a leaked document from the WikiLeaks Sony dump.
Next week, the U.S. Appeals Court for the Federal Circuit will hear oral arguments in ClearCorrect Operating, LLC v. International Trade Commission, a case that could give an obscure federal agency the power to force ISPs to block websites. In January, The Verge reported that this very legal strategy is already being considered by the Motion Picture Association of America, as evidenced by a leaked document from the WikiLeaks Sony dump.
Copyright has no clothes is how the saying goes.
Perpetual copyright - and make no mistake it is that by extension after extension - robs our culture of rich works that never were. If copyright was a sane term like 20 years then after those 20 years new authors could tell new stories in those universes and receive their own 20 year copyright on their flavors. But, no, better to let the tapestry rot away for a few pennies more a year.
Get a free book on the issues here: The Public Domain.
Shh.
Big Money *always* wins. Always. There's nothing that can be done.
Lawyers gonna weasel.
I hereby invoke the "he needed killkin' " laws Texas is alleged to have, and suggest it is both moral and correct in the defense of our rights to shoot every asshole associated with the copyright cartel.
You're welcome.
Now get on with it.
(No, I'm not actually advocating murder)
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
"Laws and ammendments introduced by stealth are invalid."
this, the TPP, pipa, DMCA, you name it and it all shows up buried in some obscure bill about dentures or highway reflector color. In america we could pass legislation on the width of an ear of corn and by the end of the vote it would have legalized nazi bingo parlour strippers and privatized nuclear cheesecake warfare.
our biggest, and most famous shit sandwich is the agriculture/farm bill. Its around 950 billion dollars and laced with nothing short of paint-thinner dreams like creating a national christmas tree board and a reality tv show to promote cotton in india. and this all happens because american politicians are the equivalent of a pre-paid chipotle gift card. Whatever you want, so long as you've paid.
Good people go to bed earlier.
This kind of potentially critical situation (the gov't being able to filter the internet at the behest of corporate interests) shouldn't require us all rising up and complaining. We elect people that should have our fiduciary interests at heart, and dome of our Congressmen do still care (the "boy scouts"). I know my rep personally and have spoken with him at length about various issues, and he does his best. Too many of them, however, are powerless at the feet of their own political parties and the money that elected them.
I find myself hoping and praying that somehow, some way, the right decision(s) will get made - but I find myself expecting being more and more cynical about the whole thing. The fundamentals of the system are broken to the point that the Supreme Court is the only truly effective governing body... To channel Jack Nicolson's Joker, "This government needs an enema."
First strong-arming European countries and down under (this is hidden in news articles as "under enormous pressure", those in the know need no more than that) to adopt web-blocking laws (I think Portugal is the latest with a 6-week end-to-end process?), then later pointing at the "international standards" to get this in the US and Canada as well. Disgusting, how the Copyright Lobby (a/k/a MAFIAA) works.
When the copyright term is "forever minus a day", live every day like it's the last.
... "is working its way through the legal system without anyone noticing", how did You hear about it?
... hard enough yet.
So far the MPAA has been losing everywhere for years. I don't see this going anywhere.
Lets say they get ISPs to do one thing or another. So what? Worst case you run your dirty traffic through a VPN.
This gets nutty enough and large portions of the web will go from the conventional internet to the dark web.
They need to offer their content on the streaming services and they need to do it at a competitive rate.
If they can't make money like that then cut production costs. That's all they can do.
Stopping the piracy isn't going to happen because the communications network is inherently uncontrolled and uncontrollable. The Iranians and the Chinese can't control their network... why would the stupid studios think they could control the US network? Ignorance.
You can control the system if you control everything. Run the internet like the north koreans and you can lock it down.
But that won't happen so the whole thing is pointless.
I've decided to stop wasting my time responding to AC trolls/sockpuppets... so if you want a response from me... login.
The DMCA was a badly flawed law, passed for some pretty good reasons by technologically challenged legislators. Since it was passed, it has been abused almost incessantly, virtually always with the aid of technologically challenged courts. "The Democrats" have very little to do with this state of affairs. Nice try, though.
You have slept for too long. 150 year have passed. Those parties are not what they used to be.
Linux is for people who don't mind RTFM.
That is that many less children collecting welfare, and in the foster system. Forget skin color or demographics,
Why do you think I should pay for someone else bad decisions for life?
Why do republicans oppose welfare and then want the poor to keep making bad decisions and not give them options to get out? Planned parenthood, free condoms and birth control for the poor do more to help the poor than any charity ever could and any foster home could provide to kids.
i thought once I was found, but it was only a dream.
You are implying that getting an abortion isn't life changing ... and also that it isn't a bad decision.
I hope too many people don't actually agree with that...
Fact: all politicians hate poor people.
Fact: They LOVE people that give them money. If you give them LOTS of money, they will do what you ask.
This is how the United states has worked since the very first day. The founding fathers were not fighting for the poor common folks.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
because along with the fiscal right, small government people, the big tent also includes the religious right... who frown on that.
And check out what the Farm Bill allows for Sulfuryl Fluoride. Powdered eggs can have 90% of the fluoride in toothpaste, without having to mention fluoride on the label.
.... blacks tend to get themselves pregnant ....
Are you saying blacks are hermaphrodites?
(A => B) (B=>A)
Getting pregnant being a life-changing event does not imply that getting an abortion is not. For some it may simply be the lesser of two bad choices in their particular situation. Would you simply prefer the option not be available at all because it sounds a little like that's what you're saying which, in and of itself, would probably not be a good thing.
(A => B) <=!=> (B=>A)
Ugh... stupid formatting rules...
Parts of SOPA Hiding Inside a Boring Case About Invisible Braces
You could have at least explained the bit in the headline about braces (the teeth kind) in the summary:
At first glance, ClearCorrect v. ITC looks pretty banal. It’s a case about a 3D printing model file for invisible braces. ClearCorrect, an Invisalign competitor, had a subsidiary in Pakistan create 3D models of braces, which it then sent from Pakistan to the US over the internet. ClearCorrect then 3D-printed the braces in its Texas offices, a move that might infringe Invisalign patents. (The validity of the patents is being disputed in both court and at the US Patent & Trademark Office.)
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
...who also then want to punish the mothers and children in question rather than treating these impoverished people in the manner that Jesus would.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
you could've saved yourself and the rest of us a little time if you'd have just used words to express yourself the first time. you know...words? those little writing thingies that are composed of letters? words. when combined, they convey ideas. so I've heard, anyways.
http://i.imgur.com/DNXzNCy.jpg
yes. it was written by the two major 'content' industry associations, and the legislators were paid to pass it.
And both democrats and republicans were paid to have it passed.
Sleep your way to a whiter smile...date a dentist!
That's dopey. You've got to get information from places other than pro-life websites.
But even if you use the numbers cited by the pro-life websites (and cited NO WHERE ELSE), you'll see that live births outnumber abortions by at least 6-1. If you use census data for births, you'll see that it's more like 10-1. And that's if you accept the total number of black abortions the pro-life websites have pulled right outta their ass.
You are welcome on my lawn.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The total number of abortions (including in the black community) has been dropping every year since 1980. EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR.
https://www.guttmacher.org/med...
You are welcome on my lawn.
Back then, both parties had liberal and conservative wings, and northern and southern wings. There was a lot more ideological diversity in the parties, for good and bad.
The Civil Rights act was passed with votes from both parties, but it was also championed by a Democratic President. They took ownership of it - and, rather than fight them over that, the trend in the Republican party was instead to court the southern/white/conservative vote that was alienated by that ownership. You can see it in so many things, starting with Nixon's Southern Strategy.
Look at those numbers of Southern Representatives and Senators - at the time they were overwhelmingly Democratic. Who's the current party of the South? Even when you factor in the representatives from the majority-minority districts pushed by the Voting Rights Act, the South is still overwhelmingly Republican in terms of its Representatives and Senators.
...just bury them inside crap-tonnes of legalese. Hey it works with EULAs!
Apparently you can use it against the government as well.
This is an abuse of law that exploits the fact that no-one has time. It's TLDR law. Rather than make the intent of the law obvious by passing a bill with all the intents laid out we break it up into itty-bitty pieces and hope that the judge wasn't looking when we slide one into the conversation. i.e. Someone turned the temperature up a bit too much with SOPA so we'll find another way to boil the frogs.
Of course even bills contains itty-bitty pieces of irrelevant legislation. A sub-law inside the public law that's tantamount to billy club enforceable steganography from a sociopath. The world has been fucked for a long time now...
That's just due to the latex jew (condom) which is also against gods will.
Note: this post may contain sarcasm.
Unfortunately, the number of single mothers has been going up every year, so we have a different problem.
People under 30 are still not using contraception... they are just addressing the inevitable results differently.
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
The number of single moms has gone up per capita. They aren't using the contraception. There just aren't that many "accidents" with the known efficacy of birth control. I'm anti-abortion but pro birth control. I'd rather people not hump like bunnies, but I feel that government is not to be used to impose morality. Likewise, I don't think people who refuse to keep their natural urges in check shouldn't be allowed to use the government to maintain their decrepit lifestyle.
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
Punish? How's that? Please explain.
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
Tricking dead black babies to vote fo them...Am I reading this right?
That's misleading. The number of abortions compared to pregnancies have been increasing yearly.
Additionally, there are now home treatments that are not calculated (besides the coat hanger before you go there) that do not count towards these figures.
i think the religious right and and the fiscal right actually intersect on this issue.
they both believe that charity is not the purview of government.
And despite that, black women are aborting their babies almost 3 times as often as white women.
This has resulted in the black population growing at a very slow rate, costing blacks political power, influence, and economic success.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
If they could, they would
Don't pretend you aren't being subsidized by the rich as well. Your tax dollars don't even begin to cover the things you use or are used on your behalf. For example you may not use many of the interstate system driving yourself, but the trucks that bring things you buy do. Then there are farm subsidies and I don't know how many others.
http://dictionary.reference.co...
3. to handle severely or roughly, as in a fight
Um, you know black birth rates are still higher than white birth rates, right?
http://www.childtrends.org/?in...
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/n...
You are welcome on my lawn.
You mean people who haven't been taught how to keep their natural urges in check.
I forgot to mention...feelings. If you don't write what you feel your argument has no soul. Stop using logic and equations - they are for robots.
Please provide a citation that isn't from one of the anti-abortion websites (who for some reason, never seem to include any citations for the numbers they give, you will notice).
It just isn't so.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Because mathematical syntax is always the wrong choice? I'd guess most slashdotters have studied formal logic. I guess you're right though: the most 'technically correct' thing to do is to refer to the fallacy by its name: affirming the consequent.
(I'm not the AC, for what that's worth.)
and it was signed into law by Clinton. (a democrat)
Dead people stop taking actions that harm you or otherwise interfere with what you want to do.
The problem is that there is a multitude of ways to determine what people deserve.
The DMCA was a badly flawed law, passed for some pretty good reasons by technologically challenged legislators.
Where "pretty good reasons" = "briefcases full of cash"
General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
No big deal to me really.
Better than ruining your life if you are young, being saddled with a kid and debt that you cannot afford. Sometimes rubber break or the pill doesn't quite work right.
It is nice to have this option to rid yourself of a mistake or accident.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
8=========D~ ~ ( o y o ) problem solved
Getting pregnant being a life-changing event does not imply that getting an abortion is not. For some it may simply be the lesser of two bad choices in their particular situation. Would you simply prefer the option not be available at all because it sounds a little like that's what you're saying which, in and of itself, would probably not be a good thing.
FTFY
The Civil Rights act was passed with votes from both parties, but it was also championed by a Democratic President. They took ownership of it - and, rather than fight them over that, the trend in the Republican party was instead to court the southern/white/conservative vote that was alienated by that ownership. You can see it in so many things, starting with Nixon's Southern Strategy.
Sounds like the strategy of the Democrats after the Confederacy lost the civil war. Does the myth that the two main American parties are better defined by being against each other than by their ideological affiliations have some ground in the reality?
Linux is for people who don't mind RTFM.
someone releases open source code that scans teeth and auto-generates STL files for your personal 3D printer? Might be a fun project.
I've heard of another case were the MPAA was getting an order against "all third parties" to block a website they didn't like. This looks a lot more limited: Align Technologies says ClearCorrect is performing a patented process in Pakistan to evade Align's US Patent, and the ITC is ordering ClearCorrect (not third parties) to stop receiving the models which are supposedly the results of this process. Whether this is or is not within the ITCs jurisdiction, it doesn't look like wide-ranging SOPA-like powers.
Too bad it wasn't on the email server...
Getting an abortion isn't life changing... having an unwanted child is...
Having an abortion is often a good decision.
I don't read your sig. Why are you reading mine?
you have convinced me to vote straight DEM
I've seen a few prominent figures on the religious right argue that welfare is an attack on the position of churches, because it undermines their god-appointed duty of caring for the poor. If government is keeping people from poverty, then how are christians supposed to fill their obligation to minister to them?
What do you call 1000 dead lawyers? A good start!
Always leave them wanting more.
Provide citations on how the rich are subsidizing the country please. I don't think this has ever been done before, not sure why. Please also define what "the rich" are. Thanks in advance.
Only I can judge you.
If it only was so. That's why lawyers exist, so people may even pester you after you got rid of them.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
And that means what? That white birth rates are even lower?
Didn't raise black birth rates one bit, did it?
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
Ok I read it, Bulshitl..
What is this, Highschool. Is the ITC our principal??
instead of blocking them, why dont the patent holders take arms and go after them themselves??
This seems way to protracted,
MPAA when are you going to learn, the actions you promoted/comitted against your own in the past has now come home to haunt and take away your shady business practices..
Have you really Fu*ced so many people in the industry, that they themselves to whom you seek to protect are refusing your services and thus surfaced your real modisoperandi??
Is your group really a bunch of punks?
Look at Microsofts stragety dealing with piracy.. they have been successful.. Whats your problem?
go away
So long dental plan!
The DMCA was passed by UNANIMOUS VOTE.
No, but you did say that black women aborting their pregnancies has resulted in very slow black population growth when in fact it is higher than the majority growth. Words like "very slow" have to have a reference and are not absolutes. In population analysis of humans in north America the reference is Caucasian in all but a few local areas.
The black population of the USA is highest in the South, where schools have either gotten rid of sex education or deliberately changed its content it to spread lies. The result has been lots of unplanned pregnancies.
If black people really wanted to gain political power through sheer weight of population, increasing their birth rate is really the long way around the problem. (Not to mention that having more children per family would decrease, not increase, their economic power as individuals.)
The effective way to get political power would be for them to collectively pick a state and move to it. It would be easiest to achieve in the South because black populations are already proportionally higher there. It would be particularly easy to take control of Mississippi (less than a million of the 45 million black people in the USA would need to move there), although the poorest state in the union would be a lousy prize. However, Alabama, South Carolina or even Georgia could be made into a black majority state with enough organization and willpower, and maybe some funding to help people make the move.
You should not assume that black people believe the only way to gain political power is through the sheer force of population numbers. There's only two Koch brothers, but they gained political power through the sheer force of numbers of dollars in their bank account.
There's more than one way to gain political power, especially in a nation where elections are won by such a small percentage of the population.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Getting stuck with a child you can't afford to raise because some moralizing asshole thinks you should have it but then says they shouldn't be paying to help raise it ... that's a fucking life changing decision.
You want to prevent abortions, you fucking help raise the children.
Don't want to do that, shut the fuck up, because it has nothing to do with you.
If your whiny asshole of a god disagrees, he can fucking help pay to raise the kid.
Fuck you. Fuck your god. Fuck your stupid opinion about what other people should do, or your self righteous moralizing about how they shouldn't have sex.
You're a fucking moron. I hope you refrain from having children, the world doesn't need children of idiots like you.
Keep your stupidity to yourself, and stop pretending like your opinion about someone else's body and life mean a fucking thing.
It does seem that black population growth is growing faster than white, but the. Census Bureau is publishing data that indicates Hispanic birth rates are higher than other non-white races.
But if black women cut their abortion rate, this would be impacted. Noticeably from the looks of the data.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
I made no assumption about what black people believe. That suggestion is what *I* think, not what I imagine *they* think. (And I'm not black.) No doubt black Americans already have many good ideas that they're already working on, but I think my idea would work pretty well.
When your demographic is also the nation's poorest, winning some local elections by numbers is a lot more realistic than spending millions of dollars to buy power.
Look what the Irish did. Taking over local government worked for them.
But I really think black people are going to have to do it at the state level in order to make it work. Otherwise you'll get what we've seen in the Midwest (e.g. Milwaukee), where cities become largely black and then white majorities in county and state level government work to undermine that city's authority and erode its tax base.
I understood what they were getting at, but I had to stop and have a think about it, since they were missing the middle of their statement. Words would've been quicker on the reader's end. Terseness is not always equivalent to quickness.
Maybe if they would invest in contraception education instead of "abstinence or nothing" there would be fewer unwanted pregnancies.
That's dopey. You've got to get information from places other than pro-life websites.
But even if you use the numbers cited by the pro-life websites (and cited NO WHERE ELSE), you'll see that live births outnumber abortions by at least 6-1. If you use census data for births, you'll see that it's more like 10-1. And that's if you accept the total number of black abortions the pro-life websites have pulled right outta their ass.
This fact sheet from the Guttmacher Institute says "twenty-one percent of all pregnancies (excluding miscarriages) end in abortion". Which is 4-1... not 6-1, and certainly not 10-1. As you may know, Guttmacher Institute is not pro-life; wikipedia says "it works to advance reproductive health through birth control, including abortion." Of course, 4-1 is far from 1-1. But then, the claim you were responding to was about a population subset, so 1-1 is still quite possible. It would not at all be surprising if abortion rates depended strongly on age, income, employment, marital status, and contraception use. for an example of the latter: "Compared to whites, blacks were less likely to use any contraceptive method (adjusted odds ratio, 0.65); and blacks and Hispanics were less likely to use a highly or moderately effective method (adjusted odds ratio, 0.49 and 0.57, respectively)"
That's dopey. You've got to get information from places other than pro-life websites.
But even if you use the numbers cited by the pro-life websites (and cited NO WHERE ELSE), you'll see that live births outnumber abortions by at least 6-1. If you use census data for births, you'll see that it's more like 10-1. And that's if you accept the total number of black abortions the pro-life websites have pulled right outta their ass.
Okay, here are some figures.
National Vital Statistics Report. Table 1, page 15. In the year 2000, among black women aged 15-44, birth rate was 70 per 1000 women.
From Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2010 Mar; 202(3): 214–220., "in 2000 Black women had a[n abortion] rate of 49 per 1000 women."
So in 2000 there were more black babies being born than aborted, but the ratio was 7:5, and certainly not 10:1. Two (Bush) recessions later, and I would not be surprised to see the ratio flipped the other way.
Yeah, they should learn to sleep on the pavement too. Clothes can keep people warm and dry. The poor don't need to spend money on personal space or even a roof.
Humans can survive without good shelter: That is, a building to keep out the weather and animals, clothes to stay warm and dry. But humans want more than survival: We want entertainment and friends to share it with. For our mental health we need social and sexual relationships.
Fucking is the one primal need that can be denied without causing death. Although I think anyone denied masturbation is either living in a small box or mentally disturbed. Psychology, in one of its uncommon insights, put sexual release just above survival needs but so many people think sexual release is a choice. That might be part of the sex == love dishonesty existing in most communities. But fucking provides social contact and entertainment first, babies second, love is a distant third.
Wasn't that the philosophy of some US president? Teach schoolgirls to avoid drugs but not to avoid penises. I argue, given that vaginas will always want penises, teach schoolgirls to avoid consequences, such as pregnancy. Instead, we pretend sexual release is a choice and tell schoolgirls they don't have a vagina.
In America, an obscure agency can impose a constitution-defying law against the will of millions of Americans, upon them. Why oh why is it so difficult then for millions of Americans when faced with these draconian laws to Go All NRA All Over The MPAA? Surely they know the order of the boxes and when to use which. We have tried soap, we have tried ballot. This is jury. After this its ammo.
Summary of Vital Statistics 2012 The City of New York, Pregnancy Outcomes, New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, Office of Vital Statistics
Table 1: the total number of live births, spontaneous terminations (miscarriages), and induced terminations (abortions) for women in different age brackets between 15 and 49 years of age. The table also breaks that data down by race â" Hispanic, Asian and Pacific Islander, Non-Hispanic White, Non-Hispanic Black â" and also by borough of residence: Manhattan, Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island.
The numbers show that in 2012, there were 31,328 induced terminations (abortions) among non-Hispanic black women in New York City. That same year, there were 24,758 live births for non-Hispanic black women in New York City. There were 6,570 more abortions than live births of black children.
Fact are stubborn things. You're wrong. Admit it.
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So, you're extrapolating the city of New York's statistics to the entire country?
You're wrong, admit it.
You are welcome on my lawn.
well you can understand the impulse, if government is taking my money to force me to provide for those less fortunate, i can't do it voluntarily even if i want to... because, you know, no money.
It is natural evolution. In time the European founded countries (including the USA, Canada, Australia) will collapse in on themselves and the Asian tigers will rise to the top. In 30 years China and India will be out sourcing work to Americans for half of what is paid in their own countries. The Philippines will be sourcing Au pair's from American and Canada (because they like their cute accents, fat asses, and pasty skin). Savor the luxuries of the present as you head down this dark path.
So the "religious right" is beating up women and kids in some alley somewhere? I don't get it.
Gamingmuseum.com: Give your 3D accelerator a rest.
My understanding is that, for some, it is a hugely changing event. Much of that is, again according to the paper's abstract that I read, was due to feelings of guilt and confusion. Depression often follows abortion. The ladies are not cheering and jumping for joy after an invasive procedure such as that.
Personally, I am against abortion - very much so. I feel it is too close to life to be removed without ethical consequences, so to speak. I also see its value. More importantly, I feel, I also think I have absolutely no right to insist that someone take a child to term. It is not my body, it is not my choice. I am pro-life/anti-abortion but, at the same time, I am pro-choice.
I do not want you to decide that I can not do what I want with my body (even though such is already decided) and that means that I do not get to decide what you do with your body.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
They verbally abuse them, and stand in the way of them getting help.
Alas, I am out of points to mod you up!
I couldn't have said it better myself. Unfortunately, this fucktard is likely one of those damn quiver-full assholes with 20 fucking kids.
I would say no. They are better described in terms of football practice (or team sports practice in general).
When you scrimmage during practice you have two groups opposing each other. One group takes the side of offense and the other takes the side of defense. They even put on different colored jerseys so that they can be differentiated from one another. Each play they work against each other, but they are both furthering progress on the same goal, to improve their collective power.
It isn't as obvious among politicians because there isn't an obvious coach telling both sides what to do and what they are doing wrong, but that doesn't mean that they are not there.
Generally they do it using the police.
"pro-life/anti-abortion but, at the same time, I am pro-choice" most people don't seem to realize that is an option at least from a governmental standpoint.
... but require that people that have them pay for it, this makes it so my taxes aren't paying for something I believe is immoral. And if you can't then you carry the child to term and then put the child up for adoption.
Basically don't make abortion illegal